Thursday, October 20, 2011

Crude sign evidence of 'rape culture'? Really?

Last August, male students living off campus at Western Illinois University put up a sign in front of their house during move-in weekend for students that read: "Freshman girl drop off here. U honk we drink. Freshman girl drop off, Oral-tation Aug. 20."

Members of the school's Feminist Action Alliance are still upset about it. They want the university to do something.

The guys said the sign was a joke, and that some women even liked it.

Oh, Really? It was funny? Guess it's over my head. I'm more a fan of Oscar Wilde and Julius H. Marx and brothers. To me, not only was this not clever in the least, it was symptomatic of a puerile vulgarity and incivility that marks the era we find ourselves stranded in.

But the campus feminists read lots more into it. They think it's evidence of "rape culture."

"I think the behavior that these guys have displayed contributes to the fact that our society has an overall rape culture, which condones rape," said Alicia Guzman Riley, a junior double majoring in law enforcement and women's studies.

Sigh.

By conflating this crude and innocuous fratboy "humor" with a vile act where one human being turns another into his personal masturbation sleeve, these people trivialize the horror of rape and do rape victims no favors.

It is akin to insisting that when Moe konks Curly on the head with an oversized mallet, it's evidence that we live in a "murder culture." Sort of waters down the seriousness of murder, wouldn't you say?

It scarcely seems necessary to note the following: there is no evidence that cracking an occasional crude sexual joke or even looking at Playboy Magazine from time to time leads to rape.  (Dr. Christopher J. Ferguson of Texas A&M said this: ". . . pornography is no more linked to rape than violent games are to violent crimes. Researchers have long known that rape rates have gone down in the U.S. as pornography consumption has increased. Rapists typically consume less pornography and are exposed to it later than non-rapist men.")  There is no "rape continuum," any more than there is a "murder continuum," or a "burglary continuum." 

There is, instead, a chasm, as difficult to cross as the Nefud Desert, that separates the vast majority of men from the tiny percentage of criminal deviants who rape. An intense revulsion for rape is far more characteristic of masculinity than is any inclination to condone the vile act. Sometimes, that revulsion plays out as an overt overreaction that leaves presumptively innocent men and boys accused of rape beaten or even dead at the hands of a vigilante.

But, hey, why let the facts get in the way of a good victim narrative?

Since the childish sign in question furnishes no evidence whatsoever that the men who made it are rapists-in-waiting, a fortiori, it provides even less support for the cockamamie notion that rape is either condoned or "normalized" among men in general.  The very suggestion would be appallingly sexist if it weren't so zany.

What the campus feminists don't understand is that they can't "empower" women either by pretending women are powerless, or by spending their every waking moment looking for ways to brand men as dicks.

Source: http://www.westerncourier.com/news/joke-goes-too-far/article_1be9cc14-fa74-11e0-ae01-001a4bcf6878.html

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

So are you saying that the puerile vulgarity and incivility [of frat boys] that marks this era is in no way associated with what the feminists label as "rape culture"?

I disagree. Hear me out.

The sign in the article is cute for sure, but not innocuous when combined with all the other little frattie indiscretions.

Off the top of my head -- the infamous march last year at one of the ivy schools (i forget which one).

The filthy lyrics of beer songs promoting rape -- sung behind close doors.

The tribal dance symbolizing gang rape.

The color coded cards pinned on women as they enter a frat house, indicating who "will" and who "won't".

I can cite more if you want. Where do you draw the line between innocuous and dangerous?

Archivist, frat culture has been around longer than you. Thanks to our generation, there's finally a name for it -- "rape culture".

ScareCrow said...

Hmmm...

I think that there is more than just a "rape hysteria" culture in America.

I am starting to think that there is also a "sex hysteria" culture in America as well.

I guess there are some things I'll never understand.

For example:

Movies that show people having sex - big taboo - rated X - called, "DIRTY".

Movies that show people killing, stealing, beating etc... rated "PG 13" or even lower - not called "DIRTY"

I do not have much of a "great thinking mind", but I'd wager a guess that the "sex hysteria" culture and the "rape hysteria" culture are closely linked somehow.

Anonymous said...

"symptomatic of a puerile vulgarity and incivility"

I agree, but college girls are no better in that regard. Teenagers are vulgar and puerile.

Regardless, that this sort of lame crap is the only thing these campus feminists can find proves there is no such thing as "rape culture". If there were, they would be able to find some actual evidence. There would be frequent and numerous statements from people all over campus clearly and unabashedly condoning rape.

scatmaster said...

a junior double majoring in law enforcement and women's studies

God help us all.

Archivist said...

Anon at 12:00: there's a legal term for arguments like yours: "bullshit."

Let's find one example of a young man who heard one of those alleged rape songs and said, "Gee, rape sounds like fun! I think I'll rape someone!"

What you are describing is raunch culture practiced by a generation of entitled nitwits (my readers not included). And please don't act like the girls are helpless sheep being led to slaugheter. I've had this discussion with college administrators: the girls are worse than the boys today, with the drinking and the sexual aggressiveness in hooking up. Unfortunately, girls do not realize that they can't handle their alchohol as well as the guys; nor do they understand that they experience much greater after-the-fact regret than the guys (recent studies show that). That is a huge problem, brought on by a generation of women being told they should be able to party like the guys. Cause, you know, men and women are exactly the same and all.

But none of it has anything to do with the horrors of rape. You want to help rape victims? Go to the inner city where fatherlessness has led to the increase of every social pathology known to man, including rape. For you to transmogrify college campuses, which are among the safest places in America, into cisterns of male predatory behavior is both sick and grossly dishonest.

Anonymous said...

If "rape" is synonymous with "Frat Boy" why oh why don't you RUN for the nearest exit when a Frat Boy approaches?

Why oh why don't you AVOID Frat houses for the rape dens they are?

Frat boy = rape. Stay away from frat boys.

How difficult is THAT for smart Sorority Sistas to figger out?

RM said...

"The filthy lyrics of beer songs promoting rape -- sung behind close doors."

"The tribal dance symbolizing gang rape."

LMFAO!!!

The Church of Feminism has struck again. This f***ing BS is proof that feminism really is an organized religion.

The New Puritans rise again.

RM

ScareCrow said...

@ScatMaster - AMEN!!!!

@Anon, Archivist - remember that feminists have claimed that "any form of sexual intercourse is rape".

Hence, any sexual innuendo from any frat boy is going to be labeled as vulgar - ooops - I mean "rape culture" by the feminists.

Archivist said...

I swear it doesn't matter what I write: they won't even discuss it. They know the "truth," the facts be damned.

The average woman, according to these loons, is akin to a leaf in the wind, not an adult, nor a free moral agent. 19-year-old Draculas have such power over these girls that the girls willingly submit to being treated like the tissues the guys ejaculate into, pardon the crude analogy. It is all such nonsense, and it dishonors rape victims who truly are treated that way.

Archivist said...

Here you go, Anon -- I know you don't read this blog, but check this out: http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2011/05/yale-bans-iconic-fraternity-for-fratboy.html

Excerpt: What to make of this effort to hang frat boys by the balls for a mindless fratboy stunt that didn't hurt anyone? It's just another in an endless, mind-numbing cavalcade of puerile, ritualistic gender passion plays at a vaunted American university, staged by the chronically offended purveyors of misandry who insist on dominating the public discourse on all things gender. These gender warriors stand ever vigilant to blow any display of male sexual misbehavior, the more trifling the better, into evidence of "rape culture" they can cite to vilify an entire gender.

So what else is new?

Put it this way: for the past four decades, women's activists have insisted that women are not helpless pawns or victims but doers -- forces who can do anything, including kick male butt, at least as well as the guys.

So, what message does Yale and its chronically offended gender feminists send to the world today? That a little mindless frat boy activity -- and take a deep breath, that's all it was -- is enough to cause not just eye rolling but conniptions; to warrant not just a rebuke, but the aid of the cavalry.

It's another self-inflicted setback for women because they are telling the world in big, bold letters that women need special protections to shield them from the slightest, most trivial, most inconsequential offense. That message does all women a grave disservice -- because women can't be empowered by insisting they are powerless.

Worse, the excessive punishment to the young men does not fit the crime. But we know the people who run Yale don't give a damn about the young men.

slwerner said...

Hum?

How about we compare and contrast:

”The filthy lyrics of beer songs promoting rape -- sung behind close doors.”;

To the lyrics of artist who are extremely popular with young women (Ke$ha) promoting promiscuity and hard-partying to young women – broadcast out over the airwaves for those women to sing along to.

”The tribal dance symbolizing gang rape.”;

To the lewd dancing of young women, who often strip (naked) as they dance (especially at drug/alcohol-fueled parties that they are so very eager to attend (or, should I say, “perform at”).

”The color coded cards pinned on women as they enter a frat house, indicating who "will" and who "won't" (as willingly reported by the women themselves?);

To the Karen Ownes-style information sharing among young women in regards to the sexual prowess of men.

And, lets not forget the forced-chanting of some fraternity pledges;

To Sororities requiring their pledges to have sex with as many as 7 partners in a two week period, while being video-taped.(go ahead, read that article…I dare you!)

Now, who’s really worse? Or is it pretty much a tie?

slwerner said...

Since the questionable activities of a fraternity are somehow seen as so terrible egregious, so promoting of the mythical "Rape Culture', I though I'd go ahead an post the search results for the first page of the search I did to find the article I linked in my previous post

Looks like Fraternities have some very strong competition in the ranch-arena, and may even find themselves far out-done by Sororities which are requiring their pledges to actually engage in sexual activities (not just talk, sing, dance, and make signs):

• Sorority house caught video taping pledges' sex with anonymous ...

www.poormojo.org/pmjadaily/archives/007577.php
Sorority house caught video taping pledges' sex with anonymous boys from the internet. Online Dating Sorority Sex Scandal: From Bigs Tampa Bay News. Wow. ...
• Sorority Forever - Television Review

www.commonsensemedia.org/tv-reviews/Sorority-Forever.html
Sep 18, 2008 – There's plenty of strong sexual innuendo, underage drinking, and ... Female students are also humiliated as part of sorority pledge rituals, and ...
• Sorority Suspended Over Allegations of Starving, Abusing Pledges ...

www.lemondrop.com/.../colorado-sorority-suspended-over-allegatio...
Aug 31, 2009 – We feel sick after learning that a sorority at Colorado State University has ... In addition to making one of the pledges write her academic papers, the president ..... The Pussy Pump -- The New Sex 'Craze' You Haven't Tried ...
• The Truth About Sorority Hazing | Her Campus

www.hercampus.com/health/truth-about-sorority-hazing
Jan 26, 2010 – You were assigned a buddy in your pledge class and the sisters told you ... as sisters circling fat on pledges or being forced to perform sexual acts on ... Robbins refers to the act of 'pledging' a sorority to be at the root of the ...
• Pledged: the secret life of sororities - Google Books Result
books.google.com/books?isbn=1401300464...Alexandra Robbins - 2004 - Education - 372 pages
Chi Omega Executive Director Anne Emmerth said the sorority's only comment ... But when she again was told that her pledge class had to have sex with the ...
• StopHazing.org Bulletin Board: AKA pledges performing sexual acts ...

www.stophazing.org › ... › Fraternity/Sorority Hazing
40 posts - 20 authors - Last post: Jul 27, 2009
I have a friend who says that there are a few chapters that make you perform oral sex on the alphas during the pledge process... as sort of a ...
• Hazed & Accused: The Worst Frat and Sorority Crimes on Record ...

www.truecrimereport.com/.../hazed_accused_the_worst_frat_a.php
Mar 31, 2010 – From punching and kicking to pouring boiling water on pledges ... saw that as a front for all the partying and drunken sex they wanted to have. ...
• 10 Things You Oughta Know About - Sororities & Fraternities

teenadvice.about.com/library/weekly/bl10thingsfratsoro.htm
10 things you oughta know about Fraternities & Sororities - a fact sheet. ... and is demonstrated in some of the practices of the groups (from taking pledges to strip clubs to "tagging" female guests at parties ... Quiz: Are You Ready to Have Sex? ...
• Sorority Rituals and Fraternity Violence | Baker | Williams Prize

lsaw.lib.lehigh.edu/index.php/williams/article/view/27/17
by A Baker - 2011 - Related articles
Physically and mentally abusive sorority pledging rituals as well as required pledging events that encourage open sexual behavior and drug use not only harm ...

Nick S said...

The truth is that most feminists, and other outspoken obtuse women who have similar personality profiles to typical feminists, like feeling indignant, self-righteous and outraged. It flatters their ego and moral vanity to think of themselves as morally superior angels looking down their noses at the disgusting, beastly males. They are actually pleased to find any examples they can to indulge their self-righteousness and delusions of moral superiority.

To use the terminology of the late psychiatrist Dr Eric Berne (author of Games People Play), the feminists like to play a hard game of NIGYSOB (Now I've Got You, You Son of a Bitch).

I find it amusing that they seem to believe that portraying women as a bunch of prudish Victorian ladies who react with hysteria and disgust at the mere suggestion of anything crude or indecent constitutes progress for women.

Archivist said...

Note to anonymous: you know whose style I really like? David Futrelle's.

The only reason I don't scrap comments altogether is because of SL Werner and one or two others.

But you are correct: if I attack someone viciously in a comment, I sometimes regret it and delete the comment. Yes, my true colors are that I am vituperative. I've been called that by a judge in open court. But I am not a misogynist, or a misandrist, which is more than I can say for some of the people whose comments I delete.

Have a nice day.

Axel said...

A follow-up to my private email to you: I am in favor of doing away with comments. Other than slwerner and maybe three or four others who are not regulars, they don't further the discussion.it's just crap and people nitpicking.

Some of the ones even on this thread acted like you didn't have a comments policy.

You don't need the bother.

Archivist said...

Axel, we're about to undergo some big changes here, I think. Stay tuned. But I agree about the comments -- no loss except for slw and a couple others.

As for the trolls (and, you know, it's the usual two people -- one is just obsessed with this blog): I don't think these people understand that I am not interested in a debate about rape culture with them. Go state your theories on your own blog (at least one of them has one). This is not Speaker's Corner at Hyde Park where every loony ultra progressive or ultra conservative view is aired.

billy williams said...

Everything's a sign of rape culture these days!-A crude sign,A sexist joke,telling women to be careful,-Heck,What i had 4 lunch is also a sign of rape culture-Vegan chicken on white bread-RAPE!-Might as well be,it makes about as much sense as what they're saying now!