Friday, September 23, 2011

Court: daughter's dream that father raped her 12 years earlier was inspired by true memories; father convicted of rape

A 26-year-old Israeli woman, living in New York, claimed she had a dream four years earlier, when she was 22-years-old, that prompted her to recall that her father had raped her when she was 10-years-old. It took four years after the purported dream before the woman supposedly summoned the courage to return to Israel and submit a police complaint about her father.

A Tel Aviv court accepted the word of expert witnesses who said that the woman’s dream was inspired by real memories. The court pointed to the fact that she had experienced similar nightmares previously and had told her cousin that she felt her father had “done something to her.” The woman had also expressed discomfort about her relationship with her father and felt disgusted by him, they noted.

Said one expert witness: “The clinical symptoms, personal and interpersonal dynamics and the way the complainant tells the story fit the characteristics of fathers who harm their daughters.”

And that was enough to convict the father of raping his daughter. The father was sentenced to a 12 year prison term on a claim of "he said, she dreamed" rape.

The case in Tel Aviv should trigger painful memories of US parents, especially fathers, stung by the recovered memory craze from the mid-80s to mid-90s when there were thousands of false memory cases across America -- daughters suddenly remembered that their fathers raped them twenty years earlier, when they were toddlers.

One such case involved Katie Spanuello’s daughter, who accused Katie and her husband of abusing her as a child. It turns out the allegations were made only after the daughter had read a book called “The Courage to Heal,” written by feminist poet and creative writing teacher Ellen Bass and incest survivor Laura Davis, which encouraged women to find the source of their emotional problems by dredging up painful memories of childhood abuse. The problem is, many women dredged up things that never happened. Aside from reading “The Courage to Heal,” according to Katie Spanuello, the daughter made her false claim only after affiliating herself with “militant feminists.” The daughter eventually recanted her claim.  See here.

Many of the cases took on a lurid, sensational quality involving satanic rituals, with wild, far-fetched allegations that were accepted at face value for no reason other than the fact that a child uttered them.

In Friedman v. Rehal, No. 08-0297 (2d Cir. filed August 16, 2010), the Second Circuit Court of Appeals explained: “Overall, at least seventy-two individuals were convicted in nearly a dozen major child sex abuse and satanic ritual prosecutions between 1984 and 1995, although almost all the convictions have since been reversed. . . . Some defendants, fearing trial, pled guilty or ‘no contest’ to impossible acts of ritualistic abuse, and in some cases they provided detailed confessions in exchange for immunity or generous plea bargains. . . . . Many have described these widespread prosecutions as a modern-day ‘witch hunt.’

“These prosecutions were largely based on memories that alleged victims ‘recovered’ through suggestive memory recovery tactics . . . . Indeed, the dramatic increase in conspiratorial charges of child sexual abuse has been traced to a relatively small group of clinical psychologists who supported the psychoanalytic notion of ‘repressed memories’ and encouraged patients to employ extensive ‘memory recovery procedures’ to ‘break through the barrier of repression and bring memories into conscious awareness.’”

Although mothers were not spared from the daggers of their daughters’ lies in false memory cases, fathers, and their penises, were, and still are, the primary targets of repressed memories.

While it might seem other-worldly that we would permit witch doctors to determine whether men languish behind bars in sometimes inhumane prisons for many years, when it comes to men and sex crime allegations, no “science” is too bizarre, primitive, or inhumane. It’s for that reason that penile plethysmograph testing, a sort a junk science polygraph of penises, and “masturbatory satiation” sessions, are often used as a basis to decide whether men and boys convicted of sex offenses should be released from custody.

I have a better idea to decide the fate of a man accused of a sex offense: bind his hands and feet, and throw him in a lake. If he floats, he’s guilty.

Dream rape story here: http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=239102

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Quote: ... a relatively small group of clinical psychologists who supported the psychoanalytic notion of ‘repressed memories’ and encouraged patients to employ extensive ‘memory recovery procedures’ to ‘break through the barrier of repression and bring memories into conscious awareness.’

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Repressed memories do exist, but rarely are these memories recovered in a clinical setting. If this occurs, there is reason to suspect the therapist used the power of suggestion.

Fortunately these quacks are a relatively small group, as you said.

Arod99k said...

Lies, brainwashing, suggestibility, manipulations, coaching, rehearsed memories, and leading questions serve as the collective truth of the State. Prosecutors and police will never talk about the tampering with witnesses in jury trials. I read about some of these stories and most came about because some cop was told that he had needed to justify his budget and needed to bring more criminal cases. These expert therapist witnesses make up to 10,000.00 dollars per case that they testify in; there testimony is bought and paid for. A government job for life, which pays the mortgage, your new car, good wages, overtime, security, and holidays. They will say and do anything to keep their rape numbers high. The main job of the managers is to ensure that next year’s revenue exceeds this year’s revenue. This culture of corruption needs to end. The criminal justice system should be accurate, fair, and just.

Anonymous said...

When will people realize that dreams mean nothing? I have dreams that I'm in class all the time, or I'm the main character in a movie I just watched. Doesn't mean it happened, just means it was on my mind. I wonder if she had read something about "repressed memory" (which, I believe, is complete BS) before she went to bed that night....

Cdub said...

I"m never amazed anymore when I read any of this stuff. It really makes me sad to know how low the West has sunk. I do not like the thought of living in and Islamic state, but sometimes I think it would be a better existence for men then what the West offers us anymore. And if it amounts to that then women have no one to blame but themselves for their newfound servitude.

Druk said...

If I remember right from last time I read that "witch hunt" story, some of those who plead guilty are still having trouble getting released from prison.

I mean, who needs evidence when you have a (recanted) guilty plea?

Anonymous said...

*** "These expert therapist witnesses make up to 10,000.00 dollars per case that they testify in; there testimony is bought and paid for" ***

The system should be set up differently so that the expert witnesses don't know which side they're testifying for.

But then you'd have the question "who pays this witness?". Why can't their fee be charged to both sides?

Anonymous said...

Anon: "When will people realize that dreams mean nothing?"

Not so, particularly a recurring dream (nightmare) that causes great emotional anguish.

Hieronymus Braintree said...

I was a psych major when I was hit with this stuff, which was partially responsible for my dropping out of school. Feminists such as Judith Herman plus Bass and Davis were those most responsible for instigating this hysteria.

Anyone who wants to get a handle on this stuff could do a lot worse than get their hands on a copy of "Making Monsters" by Richard Ofshe and Ethan Waters (http://www.amazon.com/Making-Monsters-Memories-Psychotherapy-Hysteria/dp/0520205839). They do a top-notch job of explaining and debunking the pseudo science behind the whole mess allowing advocates virtually no wiggle room to weasel out of responsibility for destroying thousands of lives with their blatant quackery.

The false memory/international Satanic conspiracy lunacy was the straw that broke the camel's back for myself when it came to how I saw feminism. Like a lot of liberal men, I didn't want to come right out and openly think to myself that, while the ideal of women having the same rights and opportunities is great, feminists themselves are, in reality, a bunch of crackpots or crackpot enablers. Ironically, it was repressed-memory advocates, who claimed to be about ending society's "denial" about the rampant pervasiveness of incestuous rape underlying American society, who ended my denial about the amazingly screw-ball nature of modern feminism.

Arod99k said...

There is a huge amount of bribery in America, perhaps even more than in the courts of any other country in the world. Even some American ex-judges have admitted the near-universality of bribery there. Nearly all bribes are given to the judges by lawyers; this is considered the safe way to bribe a judge. Bribery is rarely spoken about, just understood. Rich people pay huge amounts of money to law firms with connections, the lawyers walk around with a certain amount of cash in their jacket, and they pass it to the judges in their quiet moments together. It is mostly all cash of course. Sometimes the bribery is blatantly obvious, because of the other crimes that lawyers and judges commit in broad daylight together. In the courtrooms you can see the judges being extremely friendly to their rich lawyer friends who pay big bribes.

Anonymous said...

Braintree, do you altogether deny that there are legitimae victims of incest who do not come forward until adulthood?

The ethics of the FMSF (false memory syndrome foundation) have been under suspicion for a long time. I don't have the URL, but you can find the video on YouTube.

I'm not sure what feminism has to do with the above.

AROD, I saw a documentary on judge bribery not too long ago. Can't remember the details or location but it was a real eye-opener. You know the one I'm talking about?

Arod99k said...

In America, government-appointed lawyers are the means by which hundreds of thousands of poor people are railroaded into prison. It is the job of the victim's lawyer to "sell the deal" that the judge has decided will happen. You will also find, in the American legal system, that you essentially have no recourse whatsoever against wrongdoing by your own lawyer. A lawyer can sell you out, betray you, steal your money, engage in malpractice, help out the other side, hide the evidence that proved you were right, or commit felony crime against you, and there is nothing you can do about it, so long as the lawyer made the judge happy, and the judge got his cut of any money the lawyer stole from you.

Though a social explosion is lurking beneath the surface - with judges starting to get murdered, and people lighting courthouses ablaze.

Anonymous said...

I am a regular reader of this site. I have never left a comment on a blog in my life until now. I am leaving a link to another site that I also read. I am aware that this link is not relevant to this story. However, it may be of use to the creator of this site for future purposes.
http://www.bigsoccer.com/soccer/bill-archer/2011/09/22/eric-frimpong-and-the-american-system-of-injustice/

Arod99k said...

Anon this may be it, and yes there is corruption in our legal system, I dont care what anyone else says.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=judge+bribery+&aq=f

Dulantha said...

How can we believe a dream? Is the legal system stupid to believe this? After all this was happened too far in in the past. This is crazy......

Dulantha said...

Today we must deeply discuss about why parents love their children. We must protect children from sexually abusing them by adults while we are protecting their sexuality as well. We must protect children's future sex life too. I posted a new article to my bog about this too.


http://spiritofnature99.blogspot.com/2011/09/sexual-offenses-and-children.html

Hieronymus Braintree said...

Dear Anonymous,

I never said there were no true victims of incest. You're making a straw man argument. The bone of contention here is that thousands of women were convinced by their quack therapists that they had been regularly sexually abused by family members for years AND HAD NO MEMORY OF IT UNTIL BADGERED AND MANIPULATED BY THEIR THERAPIST INTO THINKING IT DID based on a clearly crackpot theory of how human memory works. That is the bone of contention--not if incest occurs. Of course it does.

Let me ask you a question: Do you think it is possible to have been repeatedly raped over the course of several years by your father, with you're mother's consent and to have absolutely no memory of it? Because that's exactly the sort of crap that was being claimed.

The ethics of FMSF have been under suspicion it's true. It's been under suspicion by true-believing boneheads exactly like you.

To even ask the question of what does feminism have to do with False Memory Syndrome is to display a profound ignorance of its history. Judith Herman, the Harvard quack who came up with the whole theory claiming that people could repress memories of years of sexual torture with no conscious memory of it (and the implicit assumption that this had gone on for centuries w/o anybody noticing) is an avowed feminist. Ellen Bass and Laurie Davis who wrote "The Courage to Heal," perhaps the most ironically named book of all time, are both self-described feminists. Gloria Steinem was the keynote speaker at an APA forum honoring quack psychiatrist Bennett Braun who eventually had his license to practice medicine revoked by convincing his patients that they belonged to a Satanic cult w/o any previous conscious knowledge.

Would you like me to go on?

Oh, and here's another question for you anonymous: Do you believe, as was claimed at the time, that there is a huge, centuries-old international Satanic cult that has been raping and murdering people w/o the FBI being able to find any evidence for it? Because, if you do, you're obviously a crackpot. If you don't then you can't believe in Herman's theories either because THE EXACT SAME TECHNIQUES WERE USED IN UNCOVERING THE SO-CALLED INTERNATIONAL SATANIC CONSPIRACY THAT WERE USED TO CONVINCE PATIENTS THAT THEY WERE CONTINUALLY RAPED BY THEIR FAMILIES BUT FORGOT ALL ABOUT IT.

Go peddle your papers somewhere else, Sonny. You're a dweeb.