Concepcion Rodriguez, 35, was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for gunning down Anastacio “Taquito” Torres over what turned out to be a false rape rumor.
Rodriguez heard a rumor that Torres had raped Rodriguez's girlfriend, Andrea Garcia, so Rodriguez and a friend confronted Torres, bound his hands together, and drove him to Rodriguez's apartment where Rodriguez, waving a gun, questioned Mr. Torres and Ms. Garcia about the rumor. Rodriguez said it was going to be Torres or Garcia, but somebody was going to tell him the truth.
Garcia said she was, indeed, raped by Torres, even though she later testified at trial that it was a lie. She was taken out of the room and Rodriguez shot Torres, according to the prosecution. Garcia testified that she felt to say Torres raped her during the tense moment.
Comment: This case is reminiscent of too many cases we've reported here where rape lies have had disastrous consequences -- we've collected some of them here. See this one, too. These cases have nothing to do with "feminism" or progressive politics or any so-called sexual grievance movement. They are remnants of a twisted strain of chivalry that causes too many men to overreact to claims of sexual abuse, even when the claims are false. They underscore the power of rape lies.
Source: http://www.mydesert.com/article/20110815/NEWS0802/110815009/Desert-Hot-Springs-man-sentenced-life-prison-rape-rumor-case-
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“Taquito” Torres Bill, what would this model legislation look like?
Could we post a link so that states could look up and copy such legislation from this site? No one is going to help write these laws so we the people have to do it.
For example;
Every citizen who files any False Rape report with an agency
regarding the commission of a crime or any investigation of a False Rape crime, if he or she knowingly and intentionally makes any statement regarding any material matter in the report which the accuser knows to be false, whether or not the statement is certified or otherwise expressly reported as true, is guilty of filing a false Rape Hoax report punishable by imprisonment state prison for three, five ten or twenty years. This section shall not apply to the contents of any statement which the officer attributes in the report to any other person. Every person who testifies, declares,
deposes, or certifies under penalty of perjury in any of the cases in
which the testimony, declarations, depositions, or certification is
permitted by law of the State of California under penalty of perjury
and willfully states as true any material matter which he or she
knows to be false, is guilty of A False Rape Hoax.
This subdivision is applicable whether the statement, or the
testimony, declaration, deposition, or certification is made or
subscribed within or without the State of California.
Where's her life term?
What motivated the lie in the first place? Was Garcia going to be shot and killed if she said she was not raped?
Dejour - ”What motivated the lie in the first place? Was Garcia going to be shot and killed if she said she was not raped?”
I had much the same question. The article isn’t particularly clear, but I took it to mean that Rodriguez meant that he intended to get the truth out of either Torres or Garcia, but without a articulated threat that he would kill her if she did not tell him exactly what he wanted to hear.
I looked up earlier stories about the case, and found this:
``(Rodriguez) told (Torres) `If you don't have anything to hide, then just come with me,'''
This was in response to the rumors circulating that Torres had raped Garcia.
Having seen way too many of these cases now, I’m admittedly a bit jaded in my views, but what I would speculate is that Garcia had cheated on Rodriguez with Mr. Torres, and other people had learned of their tryst, so she had begun “covering up” by telling those people that she had not done it willing, but that Torres had forced her into sex. And, thus, the rumor began to spread, and once it got back to Mr. Rodriguez, he decided to do his own “investigation”, ending up in the interrogation of the two (lovers, or rapist/victim?).
Had there been no illicit encounters between Garcia and Torres, she would likely have simply said so. Thus, my “gut” tells me that there was indeed something between the two, for which Garcia had reason to fear for her own safety if she were to have been honest about her consensual involvement. But, as is too often the case, cheating women are all too ready to throw their lovers “under the bus” to save themselves (we’ve seen it over and over).
I’d have to imagine that either way, rape or infidelity, Rodriguez fully intended to kill Torres, and may well have responded violently against Garcia had she admitted to having cheated on him. It is likely that this “reasonable fear” of hers will be effectively used to either justify not prosecuting her for fomenting violence, or to (successfully) defend her against the charges if she were to be prosecuted.
To me, this story makes two important points:
First, as Pierce and Steven had repeated frequently, men should never get involved with women who are in some other relationship – it’s fertile ground for an FRA.
And, secondly, Mr Torres would have had it much better if someone had taken the rape rumors to the police first, where he stood a chance to make his case (that either nothing occurred between them, or that they have engaged in consensual sexual activities), and for Garcia to back him up. Bad as the outcomes for the innocent may be, being investigated by police is not the worst of all possible outcomes to a woman believing she has a reason to lie about having been raped.
Arod99k - ”Every citizen who files any False Rape report with an agency
regarding the commission of a crime or any investigation of a False Rape crime…
I agree with you about the need for a law which would allow greater legal punishments for false accusers, but I really think that such laws would stand a better chance of being adopted by legislatures if they can be made less specific to FRAs, which will catch the attention of the powerful female-interest lobby.
I’d think that writing the law so as to include all false reporting of felony crimes (you mentioned the instances of “Swatting”, in which a false report of a kidnapping would fit that bill), to be a felony crime for having done so.
That way, it could be sold as a way of dealing with other false reporting activities, such as falsely reporting a car theft, or even a mugging (In a case I read about some months back, a man had taken the money from his pay-check and lost it all gambling. Not wanting to admit what he had done, he told his wife he’d been mugged, and the money stolen.)
If women could be convinced that the proposed law was intended to go after men who try to hide their illicit activities (from their wives or girlfriends, especially) by falsifying crimes, then they will be more likely to be in support of it. The “rape hysteric” feminists in the UK (W.A.R.) regret not trying to derail the “Perverting the Course Of Justice” law, because they did not anticipate that it could and would be used against women who make false rape allegations there. Their counter-parts in the US are going to be more alert to such proposed laws. This is why it will need to be “framed” as a primarily “anti-male” law.
Just my two cents.
He said he was going to get the truth from one of them, not he was going to shoot one of them. Either way, his holding the gun may have intimidated her into lying to cover her own ass instead of sticking to the truth. It's funny there's no mention of whether or not this chick banged the guy who was killed; just that she wasn't raped. One more case of rape claims to cover up her fucking around?
Womens violence by proxy. She says she was raped by "whoever her target is", and that guy gets the shit beat out of him or killed.
The women was the impetus for this violence, hence "Womens violence by proxy.
The male that killed the other guy, has been fed the misinformation that "WOMEN NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER LIE ABOUT RAPE";and is just reacting to that misinformation.
"Womens violence by proxy."
Not this case, that I can see. She does appear to have lied to save her neck, but she's not the murderer.
Archivist is right. Lesson learned here is *don't jump off a pier just because somebody told you to*
The one who was doing the false accusations shouldn't be responsible.
The one who was actually doing the killing should be responsible.
A "life sentence" for Rodrigeuz seems harsh to me; I wouldn't want Rodrigeuz to go to prison. Rodrigeuz doesn't pose a significant threat to society.
Even if a rape allegation "turned out" to be "true", the rapist, still, shouldn't be killed. (Hypothetically speaking.)
There is always a possibility for the convicted to be innocent, even if it has been "proven" that he is "obviously guilty." Even if a criminal himself "confessed" that he was "guilty", there is still a possibility that he isn't guilty. False confessions are common. And often the words spoken by the falsely accused will be misinterpreted as a "confession."
Which raises the question, how many rapists are killed because men went ballistic on them? I am sure quite far too many. That is not justice.
I agree with you, Luming.
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