Monday, May 16, 2011
So rape claims aren't taken seriously? Reuters says the claim against Strauss-Kahn could impact "the well-being of the global economy"
How often do we hear that rape claims are not taken seriously?
A Reuters headline screamed: "Strauss-Kahn allegations are consequential for the global economy." The sexual assault accusation against IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the article proclaims, "could also impact the IMF, France, market uncertainty and the well-being of the global economy."
A London paper says that Strauss-Kahn "has been destroyed overnight."
Other news announced that the allegation has affected the stock market: "The stock market Banks led European equity markets lower on Monday as the weekend arrest of International Monetary Fund chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn cast a shadow over a meeting of euro-zone finance ministers to discuss the region’s ongoing debt crisis."
U.S., Texas congressman Ron Paul, right-wing presidential candidate, said this: "These are the kinds of people who are running the IMF, and we want to turn the world's finances and the control of the money supply [over] to them?"
All because of a disputed rape allegation. Right now, that's all it is. I have no idea if a crime was committed, and neither do you.
But I know one thing: the entire world is taking very seriously -- and perhaps way too seriously -- the word of an unnamed maid it knows nothing about.
SOURCES:
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/16/strauss-kahn-allegations-are-consequential-for-the-global-economy/
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100088207/the-strauss-khan-embarrassment-and-the-eurozone/
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/strauss-kahn-lowes-empire-state-in-focus-2011-05-16?reflink=MW_news_stmp
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/05/police-claim-dna-evidence-strauss-kahn-alleged-assault/37753/
http://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-57047320110516
http://www.daytondailynews.com/business/imf-head-strauss-kahn-accused-of-2002-sex-assault-1161697.html
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By the way, Human Stupidty has a very thoughtful piece on this case at In Mala Fide: http://www.inmalafide.com/blog/2011/05/16/is-imf-managing-director-dominique-strauss-kahn-the-victim-of-a-false-rape-charge/
Good illustration or example of how one of the top global financial elites, who drinks with the most powerful politicians in the world, has been arrested and is being denied bail on a rape allegation made by a simple hotel maid. I too have no idea or opinion if he is guilty or not. The point is that western societies do respond aggressively and seriously to cries of rape.
IMHO and it is an unrelated matter to this posted case the IMF, the FED, and the big banks financially rape millions on a daily basis.
atlas
I didn't see this post up before I commented on the previous thread.
So, since it's hip and cool to be "green", I'll recycle and repost here:
As far as it being a possible FRA, there’s nothing clear yet. But, in reading this for an earlier story:
"The New York Police Department claims that at about 1 p.m. on Saturday, a hotel maid entered a $3,000-a-night suite at the Sofitel near Times Square, believing that it was empty.”
I was struck by the seeming incongruity arising from subsequent news accounts.
Seems that a check of the electronic record indicates that Dominique Strauss-Kahn checked out of the hotel @ 12:28 PM.
Accordingly, the news accounts have been changed to say that the maid entered the room around noon instead of 1:00 PM.
Now, maybe she was simply confused when she first said it was 1, or maybe her story HAD to be changed to noon so as to avoid the obvious question about how he could rape her in the room after he had left it.
This one certainly needs to be watched closely.
I would guess that the hotel would have security cameras which could be used to track the maids movements through the hotel so as to verify if she went to the room in question at noon, or at 1 – and, to see when Dominique Strauss-Kahn left the room.
Security camera footage has previously revealed many rape claims to have been falsified. For innocent men, the trade-off between the growing invasion of privacy (via security cams) and the ability to be exonerated of crimes might well prove to be a positive one.
And just like with Julian Asange, Al Gore, etc., liberals are going out of their way to defend Strauss-Kahn.
Anon, get real. This guy is head of the IMF. He is also a socialist. This means left and right hate him in equal measure.
He is, however, entitled to a fair trial. And guilty or not, it shows that fame and wealth is no protection against anonymous sex allegations.
all these players at the top are morally corrupt and are beyond common political definitions. it takes a corporatist (fascist)/internationalist attitude to run organizations like the imf and the fed. alan greenspan used to be a loyal student of ann rand, a free market advocate, and a supporter of the gold standard. then he became fed chairman. go figure.
sorry. it is easy to go off on an unrelated tangent with this piece.
atlas
Did they get a dna sample out of the poor womens mouth, or did they have to pump her stomach??
How long was she blowing him, before she decided to leave the hotel room and scream rape??
Yet more news:
IMF chief 'feared political opponent would pay a woman more than $1m to allege rape'
” Liberation, the left-wing daily newspaper, published details on off-the-record comments made by Strauss-Kahn as recently as April 28th.
Discussing his plans to challenge Nicolas Sarkozy as Socialist candidate for the presidency in 2012, he said he imagined ‘a woman who had been raped in a car park and who was offered between €500,000 and €1,000,000 to make up such a story.’”
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”Such theories were bolstered by the fact that the first person to break the news of Strauss-Kahn’s arrest was an activist in Mr Sarkozy’s UMP party – who apparently knew about the scandal before it happened.”
My message to Ron Paul:
Ron, I am a limited government guy.
And I am also a men's rights activist.
It is totally irresponsible to use a potentially false rape accusation against Strauss-Kahn as political leverage!
And I quote, "These are the kinds of people who are running the IMF, and we want to turn the world's finances and the control of the money supply [over] to them?"
I don't care if the bastard is entirely corrupt and evil.
Be fair. Acknowledge that he is ACCUSED, not CONVICTED. Uphold the CONSTITUTION!
Otherwise you are no better than a liberal, sir.
Theres something fishy about this case.
Its silly to say that "American gender-Raunch" are leftists, when they are not.
Most of the last big media rape cases turned out to be False, why do folks think this one is any different??
Slewner, the maid had been with the hotel for over 3 years. What would her motive had been?
As far as a political motive, why would strauss-kahn's opponent pick such an untimely opportunity to smear kahn? Why didn't he wait til kahn announced his running for presidency?
You know, he did leave his cell phone behind, and there is DNA evidence.
"What would her motive had been?"
You're kidding, right? Women in the recent past have made false rape claims because the accuser’s boyfriend took too long to buy cigarettes; several women didn’t want to pay cab fares, so they accused innocent cab drivers of rape; a girl wanted to get back at her teen ex-boyfriend — her rape lie not only got him convicted, but two of his friends as well; a woman wanted to get back at her ex-boyfriend for breaking it off, so she falsely accused him of rape and candidly admitted: “I just wanted him to be hurt because of what he’d done”; a young woman wanted her young ex-boyfriend “to feel extreme pain”; a woman sent a man to prison for five years because she was bored; a woman was bent on revenge after a road rage incident; a man refused to give another false accuser a beer; a maid falsely accused her employer of rape because she didn’t like her workload; a girl falsely accused a man of rape for throwing a flower at her; a woman caused three men to be interrogated for rapes they didn’t commit because she wanted a day off from work; and an 18-year-year-old boy was hauled out of class, arrested, and jailed for a month on a random false rape claim by a girl he had never even met.
Spend a couple of weeks scrolling through the stories we've covered on this site and you'll see every one of them and a hell of a lot more. The fact is, women lie about rape for any or no reason at all. Sorry that this irrefutable fact doesn't fit your narrative.
Now, why do I get the feeling that some people are rooting for this man to be guilty -- which means they are hoping this maid was sexually assaulted? I hope for her sake, and his, that she was not sexually assaulted.
Strauss-Kahn faces as long as 25 years in prison if convicted and is being held without bail. The IMF chief is charged with criminal sexual acts, attempted rape, unlawful imprisonment, sexual abuse and forcible touching, according to court papers.
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Anonymous said...
The maid had been with the hotel for over 3 years. What would her motive had been?
Low wages, someone could have offered her one million dollars to destroy this man.
You know, he did leave his cell phone behind, and there is DNA evidence.
She was probably prostituting herself, while working as a maid.
Anonymous - ”Slewner, the maid had been with the hotel for over 3 years. What would her motive had been?”
For starters, it is not known whether or not this is an actual case of rape. I cannot say that it is not. I’m just looking at the possibility that it is not. I have no fondness for Strauss-Kahn, but, should this turn out to be another FRA, this will be a great opportunity to press the issue into the forefront of the MSM.
As to possible motive, how can a profit motive NOT be considered, given the nature of this guy as a high-profile target? Did you happen to check out the article I linked above? Seems that he had previously suggested the possibility of his opponents paying some woman to make a rape claim against him.
”As far as a political motive, why would strauss-kahn's opponent pick such an untimely opportunity to smear kahn? Why didn't he wait til kahn announced his running for presidency?”
As I understand it, he was a “lock” to be running. Why not try to take him out early-on in the process rather than have to spend the time, effort, and campaign finances to fight him once he had a “head of steam” up?
”You know, he did leave his cell phone behind, and there is DNA evidence.”
DNA evidence of what, exactly? That he had been in the room? Are we talking hair, skin, or semen? You don’t know what they may or may not have. You’re just hoping that they have semen. But, even then, it may be evidence of nothing more than the man’s proclivity for masturbation, for all we know.
And, what multi-millionaire, knowing he was fleeing a crime would even stop to care about a cell phone, let alone call the hotel about it, disclosing his location? That part seems like “evidence” against the probability of the alleged crime to me.
So, let me ask you, what do you make of his political opponents apparently announcing his arrest before the NYPD made it public? Is that not a bit suspicious to you? You do realize that they can get precise time stamps on electronic communications?
And, what do you have to say about the change in time WRT her story, apparently changed AFTER it was learned that he had checked out prior to the first time she alleged? Was it just a mistake about what time it was on her part, or an adjustment to correct for something she had failed to consider?
Perhaps we’ll be learning more in the near future. I’d be particularly curious about what surveillance video has to show WRT the movements in the hotel of both the accused and the accuser.
Slewner the kahn case has 'fishy' written all over it. Another case in the news lately is in California === a frat case. Actually there are TWO alleged rapes from the same CalPoly campus. What do you make of it?
Anonymous - "another case in the news lately is in California === a frat case. Actually there are TWO alleged rapes from the same CalPoly campus. What do you make of it?"
Your comment represents the first I've heard about those two cases. It's hard to know what to make of them without knowing more about them.
Have you got a link to a story about them?
Good points and all my only critique is that maybe one of the world's top money movers is a bad example. Obviously that would get taken seriously, he's famous.
There are hundreds and hundreds of other examples you could point to that show society takes rape a little too seriously in that we "make an example" out of every guy even mentioned in the same sentence as rape, innocent or not, mostly cause no one tries/cares about whether or not the accused is actually guilty.
we have his public profile in detail yet we know virtually nothing about the accuser. we don't have her name, face, or history.
atlas
Any time a woman accuses a particularly powerful or successful man of such a crime, it should be reaped with even more suspicion, not less.
Motive, however, is not necessary for a conviction (on either side), evidence the jury believes is. As Archivist pointed out, some have no motive for accusing. Motive can be strong evidence, but isn’t essential for a conviction. A crime is a crime without motive.
My articles are linked here.
http://www.inmalafide.com/blog/2011/05/16/is-imf-managing-director-dominique-strauss-kahn-the-victim-of-a-false-rape-charge/
False Rape charges by trespassing maid against IMF Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn?
Slightly outdated, but when I was posting the entire world press was in irrational exuberance blaming Kahn as if he had already been convicted.
I am glad that you guys mention this case. It would be great if you mentioned some more cases where innocence has not been proven but where clearly medieval anticonstitutional violations of normal due process seriously hamper people's lives.
Jörg Kachelmann rape trial without evidence
It is amazing how people who have been filmed on surveillance cameras kicking people into a coma and near death enjoy presumption of innocence and are released till convicted.
I also was always hoping for you guys how the feminist rape and child abuse laws can blatantly violate universal human rights, Magna Carta and constitutions and still prevail.
I'm surprised Ron Paul is taking this attitude I thought he had more sense.
A woman is going to collapse the world economy and the feminazis are going to help her.
Watch.
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