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Monday, May 23, 2011

The Myth of Moral Equivalence Between Jailing Innocent Men for Rapes They Didn't Commit and Allowing Rapists to Go Free

I came across an old Ann Landers column that brilliantly illustrates perhaps the single greatest stumbling block to raising awareness about the gravity of the false rape problem. A reader of Ann Landers succinctly summed up the fundamental injustice faced by the falsely accused, an injustice as true now as it was then. But it is Ms. Lander's response to the letter that is problematic:

Dear Ann Landers: Several months ago, you printed a letter from my mother, who signed herself, "Heartbroken in Texas."She told what it was like to have her son falsely accused of rape. You might be interested in how things turned out.

Just before the case was to go to trial, all charges were dropped. Prosecutors found conclusive evidence that the woman was lying. So after 14 months of a living hell and nearly $20,000 in legal fees, my nerve-racking ordeal is over.

I consider myself lucky. Unlike most men falsely accused of rape, I was fortunate enough to have proof that the woman was lying. I hired an attorney, and we filed hefty lawsuits against the woman and the police department that investigated her claim. My nightmare is over, but hers is just beginning.

The frightening thing about all this is how easy it was for her to get me arrested, charged and indicted by a grand jury. I was only one more bad break away from prison.

The political climate is changing. Once upon a time, authorities greeted claims of date rape with skepticism. Now they blindly believe almost any claim, no matter how improbable.

I have no doubt that at this moment, there are many men in prison on rape convictions who are as innocent as I am. My heart goes out to all of them. - Lucky in New England

Dear N.E.: So does mine, but I'll bet an equal number of men who are guilty of rape are walking around, free as the breeze.

Too often, the woman is reluctant to file charges and risk the publicity, so she keeps quiet. Or she files, the court is not convinced of the man's guilt and he's off the hook.

Ann Landers posits a 57-word response to a very sincere letter that discussed a very troubling problem about our justice system, about how even improbable date rape claims are automatically believed.  Ms. Landers spends three words agreeing with the letter and 54 words talking about an entirely different problem, rape.

The problem we face is that even people who claim to agree that false rape claims are an injustice always seem to want to change the subject. If we are ever going to alter the public discourse, we must insist that they stop talking about rape every time we talk about false rape claims.

Even more problematic than changing the subject, in many cases, they insist that it is somehow worse that a rapist is not convicted and is free to rape other women than it is to deprive an innocent man or boy of his liberty for a rape he didn't commit.

The view is as offensive as it is misinformed.

A wrongful acquittal is a terrible thing, of course. But a wrongful acquittal is never, ever the moral equivalent of a wrongful conviction. When a rape victim sees her rapist go free, the rape victim is not at risk of losing her liberty as is the innocent man or boy imprisoned for a rape he did not commit.

We often talk about this in connection with the long-settled principle famously expressed by the celebrated English jurist William Blackstone, who said it is "better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer." (Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1765.)  See here: http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2010/09/allowing-rapist-to-go-free-is-never-as.html

While an individual is capable of doing terrible things to another individual, including rape, the state itself should never fall to the level of a criminal and reasonably risk doing a terrible thing to another human being. Charging a man or boy for rape on the basis of doubtful evidence is among the most terrible things that we, as a society, can do.

By the same token, just as we must insist that they stop talking about rape every time we talk about false rape claims, we must stop changing the subject to false rape claims every time they talk about rape. We must be willing to engage in an honest discussion about rape.

The operative term is "honest," and by "honest," I mean free of the politicized rhetoric that elevates agendas over facts. We must be willing to talk about how terribly traumatic rape can be to women. About how our young people need to be taught to better communicate their desires. About how the vast majority of rape offenders come not from our college campuses but from lower socioeconomic classes and are under-educated, under-employed, under-skilled, and grew up without fathers. About how the majority of rapes of college-age women take place when the victim is too intoxicated to resist, suggesting the need for the victim to exercise greater care. About how it is scientifically proven that young women in the hook-up culture feel far greater after-the-fact regret, and regret sometimes translates into feeling "used," and feeling "used" sometimes translates into spurious rape claims. And about how the integrity of all rape victims will be enhanced if we eradicate false rape claim.

If they are not willing to engage in that kind of honesty, that is not our fault. For our part, we must not mimic their dishonesty in advocating for the falsely accused.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ann Landers comes off as downright insensitive when she gives this guy the bum's rush. Man!

Anonymous said...

"We must be willing to talk about how terribly traumatic rape can be to women. "

I imagine it can be traumatic to men as well.

0.o

Typhonblue

Anonymous said...

"The political climate is changing. Once upon a time, authorities greeted claims of date rape with skepticism. Now they blindly believe almost any claim, no matter how improbable."

You cannot rush the pendulum.

Freedom said...

"About how the majority of rapes of college-age women take place when the victim is too intoxicated to resist, suggesting the need for the victim to exercise greater care"

What constitutes someone being too intoxicated to consent/resist? My false accuser consented and said yes but used a few friends who said she was slurring her speech and was drunk earlier on in the night to cry date rape.

Another person said neither person was no more drunk than the other.

My memory is neither of us being at a level of influence to be unable to consent.

I think this is a thorny issue. I have actually been in a state of drunkeness where I was unable to stand up and have had a girl pull my underwear off. But I had given her every sign up to that point (making out, touching, etc) that I'd be okay with taking things further. I don't think I am anything close to a victim nor would I say that person is guilty of anything. I definitely don't think she was trying to take advantage of me as I don't live under the illusion that there are purely selfish sociopaths wandering about everywhere.

I think using the word victim in association with some vague definition of drunkenness is a bit off and would not expect to see that on this blog.

Anonymous said...

'You cannot rush the pendulum.'

that's a wise statement

atlas

Archivist said...

"What constitutes someone being too intoxicated to consent/resist? . . . . I think using the word victim in association with some vague definition of drunkenness is a bit off and would not expect to see that on this blog."

Freedom, I understand your point, and not only did I not intend to offend you, trust me, I didn't suddenly abandon the cause. Calm down and I will explain.

Yes, indeed, these often are murky situations, and you know that I write about them often (remember the "elephant in the room" and all that?). Please read what I wrote: " . . . the majority of rapes of college-age women take place when the victim is too intoxicated to resist, suggesting the need for the victim to exercise greater care."

I am not talking about differences of opinion about what happened -- "he said/she said" scenarios with two reasonable, plausible accounts at the very least constitutes reasonable doubt, as we've illustrated here many times. I am talking about the actual, paradigm rape case where the girl was, in fact, too drunk to resist. If, for example, you had admitted: "Yeah, she was too drunk to resist," then everyone would agree that it was rape. Period. End of story. I know that's NOT what happened in your case.

The point of including that statement in this post was to encourage honesty in rape discussions. The dishonesty on this point is being fomented by feminist activists. It goes to a point we discuss here frequently. Here's an example of what they teach: "Remember, it's not a drunk woman who facilitiates a rape, it's the fucking rapist." J. Valenti, "He's a Stud, She's a Slut, and 49 Other Double Standards Every Woman Should Know" at 129 (2008). Great advice. Except it encourages young women to take terrible risks that sometimes do lead to rape -- it encourages them to drink to the point of unconsciousness. If we tell women they can't do that, we're accused of "victim blaming," so the feminist activists are discouraging honest talk about rape. The reality is that drinking to unconsciousness is THE MAIN REASON that the relatively few women who are raped at college are, in fact, raped. Read this next quote -- it's almost verbatim to what I wrote: "The majority of rapes of college-age women take place when the victim is too intoxicated to resist, a University at Buffalo study published by the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md., noted." And: an "NIH-published study argued that prevention programs targeting drinking might be more effective than programs targeting sexual vulnerability because of the strong link between heavy drinking and sexual assault." See http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2011/05/21/1610627/sexual-assaults-often-linked-to.html

My statement is one that, I promise you, feminists disagree with. They would say it's victim blaming, and that's bullshit.

Archivist said...

Atlas, let's make sure it's really a pendulum and doesn't keep going in the same direction. There's plenty of evidence for the latter and not enough for the former.

Anonymous said...

sarcasm on:

why not just ban all drinking on campus with violators kicked out of school? allegations of being raped while drunk would still result in being kicked off campus.

atlas

Anonymous said...

Good one, Atlas.

Freedom said...

I didn't mean for my post to have that critical of a tone. I respect and appreciate everything you guys have done. It's almost a knee-jerk reaction now for me now to question what people mean by the word drunk.

Anonymous said...

When happens to a society where the truth becomes irrelevant to law enforcement, For instance, was it a real rape, or was she lying??

Anonymous said...

young women in the hook-up culture feel far greater after-the-fact regret, and regret sometimes translates into feeling "used,"

That's not the real reason.When they were drinking they thought they were having sex with some Alpha man and were offended the next day when their girlfriends found out and the guy was more like PeeWee Herman.It's all about their inflated Egos not the fact that they had sex with some man. If it were Brad Pitt they'd be bragging about it not feeling "used". Every time some female's fragile little Ego gets hurt it seems that some man must die for it.And why is this Egoism so common in the US?

Anonymous said...

Freedom-first of all, the law has always meant that the female was unconscious when they speak of "being incapacitated" not where 2 people are just drinking together and are a bit drunk.

"But I had given her every sign up to that point (making out, touching, etc) that I'd be okay with taking things further"

Kissing a female and I mean kissing in the real romantic sense has always been considered foreplay and a prelude to sex in all countries.So if there was any misunderstanding the fault is with the female and there should be an absolute presumption of innocense for the man.
Unfortunately you live in the US where this female cock teasing is permitted.Females believe they can fool around kissing, having the guy feel them up, rub his cock etc and then don't deliver.And there's no such thing as "date rape" which should really just be called a date misunderstanding. The only reason that men even bother with females is to have sex and a female would be pretty stupid if she didn't know this in advance when she went out with a man.Then you have females who drink with a man, engage in all sorts of foreplay and he takes her home and she allows him to come in.Did she think he was coming in to have a game of backgammon with her at 3am? The problem with US femalkes is that they think they have a right to set limits according to their whims and there are no consequences. They don't, Nature sets the limits.
And why is it that I've never heard of any of these "date rape" allegations in Russia among the many female Uni age girls that I know?
Even in England where there have been a number of rape allegations recently it's not as bad as the US because the police and prosecutors dismiss 90% of them as unfounded and the ones that go to trial are dismissed by the jurors half the time leaving only about 5% convictions and the sentences are a fraction of the US.It's easy to see why this happens. It's hard to change general perceptions and social norms and customs where people still think that a woman who led a man on was asking for it and is culpable herself for anything that happened.
In the US females can get away with murder and I'm afraid that the vast majority of people are rather naive when it comes to sex and male/female interactions.

Aurini said...

This post is a credit to the Men's Rights Movement; unlike feminism (I hope) the MRM is not concerned only about Men, but mainly about Justice.

A comparison, which you are free to use, if you like (it needs some cleaning up):

"Comparing false rape allegations to rapists going free, is like comparing faking your own death to murder."

Archivist said...

"That's not the real reason.When they were drinking they thought they were having sex with some Alpha man and were offended the next day when their girlfriends found out and the guy was more like PeeWee Herman."

Well, um, yes, I am right.

What you describe is one of many possible scenarios for "regret" that fits Kanin's first reason for false rape claims, which we often discuss. See here: http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2010/12/how-to-avoid-false-rape-charge.html Such "regret" is prompted by all manner of reasons beyond what you've posited. Read the post cited.

Archivist said...

P.S. From the aforementioned post about the situations where false rape claims are more likely to occur:

"(3) If the woman would be embarrassed to let her friends know she is serious about you. If you are the quarterback of your school's NCAA division one football team, chances are, this won't be a problem. If you are a geek who's not very popular but who 'gets lucky' one night while you're both drinking, you stand a greater chance of a false rape claim the next morning."

But there are other circumstances, too.

Moral: if you are a new reader, do your homework before you tell us we are wrong.

Anonymous said...

'It's all about their inflated Egos not the fact that they had sex with some man...Every time some female's fragile little Ego gets hurt it seems that some man must die for it.'

most males, in different ways, can relate to your words above.

you've brought up some good points though i also think things are somewhat more grey shaded. a female can also get lots of attention, sympathy, and perhaps a financial out of court settlement by going public and making a false-rape claim against a male athlete/celebrity. it has happened. i guess it also can give bragging rights as to being the alpha female so sexually desired by an alpha male stud that 'he' couldn't resist her charms and raped her (not!).

atlas