"Well, what do you want the police to do—just let women who make false reports GET AWAY WITH IT?! Yes. That is exactly what I want. Because I frankly think that most reports called "false reports," which constitute less than 2% of rape allegations, aren't actually false reports in the first place . . . and that the tiny remainder of authentically false reports do not warrant the continuation of a practice that empowers rapists and discourages survivors of sexual violence from reporting the crimes against them, for fear of being arrested if their allegations can't be proven."
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Well, it just plays into the worst stereotypes about feminists. The kinds of stereotypes they ridicule but then they turn around and prove the stereotype.
Oh, yeah, let's not enforce the law just to appease furious far left loons.
But it's their modus operandi: they make up stats, or quote agenda research, then they insist that false rape claims aren't a problem (which, of course, is a lie), but that rape is rampant (which, of course, is another lie).
If these feminists want to combat rape, they'd focus on the fucking inner city where rape might just a problem. To shame white boys on college campuses into parading around in heels to "raise awareness" about sexual assault does one thing: it keeps sexual assault counselors employed. And then they sit there every day the rest of the year hoping for the calls to come in that never do.
Axel is referencing this post, I believe:
http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2011/04/elephant-in-room-there-is-typical.html
McEwan and that blog are as radical as they come and should not be taken seriously. What did you expect them to say?
wow , i actually looked at this as a mirror on the falsely accused of rape, this is one time i have heard of someone being falsely accused of falsely accusing and its sad but i have to give kudos to the police for admitting it and i will be watching with interest to see how much compensation she is able to claim for this as a counterpoint to males in the same situation .
Gee, the police got it wrong. Wow! How shocking is that? Amazing that we don't see any feminist outrage when the police get it wrong because they believed a rape liar, and worked to build a case against the man or boy she accused.
I can't read McEwan for long. She is so over-the-top and so self-righteous and incredibly angry, in a college girl kind of way.
"Because I frankly think"
Because what you "think" is clearly the truth. /sarcasm
But yeah, McEwan and her cult aren't really worth bothering yourself over. I mean, if you're doing an experiment on yourself to measure the effects of extreme rage, her blog is an invaluable aid. Most of the time though, it's just a bunch of self-righteous, entitled misandrists.
Right. She joins a long line of similar-thinking misandrists who don't want false claims prosecuted. I do feel it's important to remind people how extreme our opposition is.
"McEwan and that blog are as radical as they come and should not be taken seriously. What did you expect them to say?"
The problem is that people of McEwan's ilk employ rhetoric like what has been quoted, we must take them at their word. They are so power hungry that they will sacrifice anyone and anything (including truth and justice) achieve their aims. Among the many things that can be done about such types is to continue to "throw facts at them" and expose their stunning errors in logic, reason, and accountability.
Reading the comments, it's obvious they've never heard of this site. ("'one-in-a-million' false rape claims")
Amazing, really; this site pretty much dominates google searches on false rape.
i just threw up a few comments trying to stay as polite and logical dismissing nothing and attempting reasoned debated, the reply misrepresented me totally and avoided any questions asked.
funny that....
I love how she says in her feminsim 101 section that feminism is essential to progressivism and while an argument could be made that progressivism needs to work towards breaking gender roles saying you aren't a true progressive if you aren't a feminism is the greatest use of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy ever created
I clicked through and read the piece and many of the comments at McEwan's blog. Those people are perhaps best described by the word 'sick'.
No one at this blog and no MRA that I know of denies that rapes occur. This blog is even decent enough to print a piece recently from a previous year that the police were wrong about a false allegation and that a woman actually was raped.
Every male that I know either has had some crazy thing said about them or some degree of a false claim made against them or another male they know by a woman or girl.
Increasingly, it is being reported that 10% of (American) women suffer from border-line personality disorder (BPD). All males need to be really careful out there.
I am so weary of angry, sarcastic, self-righteous, lying, radical gender feminists, who write so poorly they couldn't compose an essay to get a passing grade outside of Womyn's Studies class. They mope about life with a giant chip on their vaginas, finding bogeymen in white, heterosexual Christian men. Yes, yes, they are nothing short of pathological.
They should all be forced to read the following, and say three Hail Marys, to atone for their hatred of a gender:
http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/p/lamb-to-slaughter-hofstra-false-rape.html
I'll be damned. Feminists really are manhaters, aren't they?
If you want to understand who is really hurting rape victims, and women generally, read this:
http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2011/03/five-ways-rape-victims-are-hurt-when.html
wow , as you could see on there my two comments which i thought were quite logical , i agreed that what happened was bad and tried to be as middle ground as possible got me banned ...... thats my first ever ban from a radical feminist site !
The thing that bothers me the most from the comments over there, is that they completely dismiss the point that in the initial investigation, there was no physical evidence, and she kept contradicting herself. There is no way the police could classify that as an actual rape. And then she said she lied. What else are the police supposed to do?
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Oink, oink, oink.
Steve, exactly. If the woman's story had been a lie, and if the police had gone off and arrested some guy based on it, I assure you that the merry band of misandrists at that awful site McEwan writes for would not have had a concern in the world about it. My proof? Have they ever expressed a single misgiving about even one of the 2,000 plus stories we've posted here where that exact thing has occurred? Example: the Hofstra case? Forget it! That was just fine and dandy with those very enlightened, highy progressive, nice people.
UGH!
I agree, they have closed down comments and simply because its being discussed here she has labeled FRS as a pro rape site.
They are seeing some serious traffic from our site, I am sure.
I should sue Mellisa McEwan for libel.
i concur , i almost blew my top when i saw that comment and i only post here every so often with the amount you guys put into this place and the ANTI rape and ANTI False rape allegation i can imagine you would be pissed.
Pierce don't waste your time. You have bigger fish to fry.
Anon at 1:10: that's probably sage advice, given how much other stuff I have to do. I don't even have an address where I can have her served.
I avoid that site, but I'd appreciate if our readers would keep me apprised if she does it again. Thanks.
Thankfully, that site is no more representative of women, or rape victims, than is a rabid lemming.
Note to Atlas, thanks for your encouragement, but I told McEwan I wasn't going to sue her this time. I have no doubt I'll be able to find her address when I need to serve her.
I won't print the other things I said to her. She can do a special post devoted to that if she wants.
Scott, do you think they'll ban me at that little site with the goofy name? Maybe I should offer to do a guest post for them.
On the subject or talking to, or listening to, or paying any attention whatsoever to wimmins...
"It's like wrestling with a pig, you get dirty, and the pig likes it."
The concrete evidence is overwhelming that false-rape or false sexual assault claims occur frequently. To deny them with the extremism that some well extremist do says much about the irrational behavior of those individuals. Demonstrating such irresponsibility and insensitivity to those falsely accused tells us even more about them.
In all of my experience visiting numerous MRM blogs, I have Never seen one that jokes about or makes light of actual rape victims. I have Never seen any MRA call for dismissing charges or light sentencing for an actual rapist.
Archivist i wouldnt be surprised, im normally quite moderate on how i approach things and honestly thought i was being decent , seemingly not enough , she never did get back to me to explain why i got banned.
" Archivist i wouldnt be surprised, im normally quite moderate on how i approach things and honestly thought i was being decent , seemingly not enough , she never did get back to me to explain why i got banned.
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Because at Shakesville, if you do not agree with the ideology (false rape claims never happen, rape is rampant, rape culture is rampant, our society supports and excuses rape) you get banned as a "troll."
The Diamondback > News
Univ. identifies student sex offenders
Office of student conduct finds four students guilty of assaults in 10 years, CNS reports
By Lauren Redding
Senior staff writer
University will obey state sex crimes opinion
Rape stats reveal reporting disparity
Four university students have been found guilty of sexual assault over the last 10 years, including a former Terps quarterback who left the university without explanation in 2006, according to information obtained by a group of student journalists.
The Office of Student Conduct released the information to student reporters at the journalism college's Capital News Service last month after more than three years of university resistance and an opinion by state Attorney General Doug Gansler last year that rejected the university's argument that the names were private information.
According to a CNS report that aired Thursday, Joel Statham was suspended for sexually assaulting another student on the campus, although the details of the actual incident were not released by the university. He subsequently transferred to Jacksonville State, a Division II school.
The other three students found guilty in Office of Student Conduct investigations over the years were Gilford Larbi-Agyire, Lance Binning and Daniel Ball; no further details on their incidents were available.
Allison Bennett, director of the university's Sexual Assault Response and Prevention Program, said the fact the list only includes four students doesn't mean the crime isn't happening frequently at this university — according to the U.S. Department of Justice, one in five women will be sexually assaulted while in college, and only 5 percent actually report it.
"This shows that a lot of people are not being held accountable for these crimes," she said. "Often survivors do not want to come forward, so there are few actual suspects. This is a tiny, tiny percentage of people actually being found guilty. There are a tremendous number of people getting away with this and that is unacceptable."
CNS broadcast bureau Director Sue Kopen Katcef, a journalism professor who oversaw the investigation, said even though she had heard a rumor that an athlete had been punished for sexually assaulting another student, she was still surprised to see his name on the list three years later.
"We were stunned," she said. "We had no idea what we were going to get, whether we were going to get nothing or volumes of material. We just decided we wanted to able to quantify what was being done by the administration on this issue. That's really at the core of what we wanted to find."
Statham could not be reached for comment yesterday. Athletics spokesman Doug Dull declined to comment.
CNS students first began uncovering the prevalence of on-campus sexual assaults in 2008 through a six-month investigation that resulted in a Terp Weekly Edition radio report entitled, "Out of the Shadows." CNS student and journalism major Danielle Lama conducted the final investigation and put together last week's most recent report.
Kopen Katcef said her students asked the university to release the names but were told the information was protected by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act, a federal law that protects students' records. Student Conduct Director John Zacker agreed to comply after Gansler's opinion. Last month, after paying more than $300 in processing fees that Lama fundraised, the student journalists finally got the list.
Bennett said she has faith that the university prosecutes all students found guilty of sexual assaults. However, based on the scarce information released by the Office of Student Conduct, she said it's hard to say whether the punishment fits the crime — only one of the students found guilty was expelled, and the other three were suspended for a year and forced to meet certain requirements, such as staying away from the victim and writing reflective essays.
And although the released information still leaves many questions to be answered, Bennett said she is hopeful the CNS report will encourage students to come forward when they are assaulted and show that anyone — even an athlete — is capable of committing such a crime.
"I think people will be surprised by this," Bennett said. "It's often assumed offenders are creepy men who don't have access to consensual sex and need to prey on women to get sex. But often, it's someone who is in a position of power and uses that to victimize women. They use those positions of power to hurt people."
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The number of cases where women who are actual victims are wrongly charged with making false allegations is extremely low compared to the number of innocent men who are charged with sexual offenses.
So if the threat of harm to the innocent justifies not prosecuting a particular crime, there would actually be a much stronger case for dropping all rape prosecutions against men than dropping all prosecutions of women for false allegations.
According to people like her, one innocent woman being hurt justifies letting all women off the hook. But thousands of innocent men count for nothing in granting any more rights to men.
The sentiment expressed in the quotation that opposes charging women who falsely report that they've been raped is not some isolated burst of militant feminist wishfulness. This thinking is far more widespread than we'd like to think.
Nassau County District Attorney Kathleen Rice justified her decision not to prosecute the Hofstra false rape accuser on the ground of avoiding a "chilling effect," since it would supposedly make actual victims fearful to come forward.
Some of the most prominent sexual assault counselors in the English speaking buy into that sentiment. Lisa Longstaff of Women Against Rape has been quoted as saying the following: “Every prosecution [of false rape claims] puts women who have been raped off reporting it.” In New Zealand, when a 17-year-old girl was arrested after falsely claiming that she was dragged off by three youths and sexually assaulted at knifepoint, Dr. Kim McGregor, director of New Zealand’s Rape Prevention Education, was quoted regarding false rape complainants: “I would recommend some form of therapeutic intervention rather than charging them.” Dr. McGregor claims that “someone needed to be ‘pretty distressed’ to make a false allegation of sexual assault,” and that “very few women made false complaints as a form of revenge.”
Many law enforcement officials have refused to lodge a false rape report against an obvious rape liar for that very reason.
The problem with that thinking is the following:
First, there is no evidence for the premise. The head of RAINN testified in Congress late last year that women are not principally failing to report rape due to a fear of being disbelieved (that once was true, he said, but not now). Moreover, there is NO evidence that charging rape liars with crimes is deterring legitimate rape victims. I know of two cases out of -- I can't tell you how many -- where women were wrongly charged with making a false rape report.
Second, if women are permitted to lie about rape with impunity, what is to stop other rape liars from destroying men and boys at their whim? And what will that do to the integrity of every legitimate rape victim?
Third, as a matter of justice, since when do we stop enforcing laws that punish criminality with the goal of fighting OTHER criminality?
Fourth, why should we elevate the victimization of our daughters over that of our sons?
It as a very serious perversion of American Law enforcement that has enabled and fostered a now "Culture of false Rape accusations" to become so rooted and routine in this country.
well guys it could be worse, we could live in mexico , seems that a husband saying no to sex with his wife could lead to him serving time in prison.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/02/26/us-mexico-husbands-idUSN2328855120070226
The police needs to get better at identifying false cases and real cases. Yes, there are criminals that can outwit detectives and investigators, a la Ted Bundy, but really...
The United States is the most powerful country in the world and the amount of money sunk into police work... could buy almost any other country. It is disturbing that they would be outsmarted by a rapist, or a false rape accuser.
Melissa McEwan's screeches are amusing, however. As most of the readers of her nonsense have done... just laugh at her and move on. :)
I've just been reading a blog about innocent women falsely accused of rape ( teacher/student stuff, of course).
Deal is, you have to ask the femmies, since such accusations are so RARE, should we go ahead and convict the innocent teachers (female, of course) since TRUE teacher/student rape is so much more prevalent and sooooooooooooooooooo damaging?
I mean, is THAT really how they want the system to work?
I doubt if 2% of the alleged rapes reported to the cops are even true.
http://tinyurl.com/3ttsf3v
A la Amanda Marcotte, she called FRS a "overt pro-rape site" and closed her post.
It is EXCELLENT to see the feminists have the courage of their convictions. :)
Zarko , i actually sent her an email wanting an explination of what rules i broke to get myself banned, no reply . She libels herself with regards to FRS and hides, she is a coward .
Guys, I hope she prints what I wrote to her. I won't repeat it otherwise. Then, I blocked her email from ours because I never want to hear from her or see her fucking name again, it is so repulsive to me.
I have a post coming later today where I explain that it would have been fitting to require her to attend the viewring of Reginald Daye, the man stabbed to death by Crystal Mangum, so she could be forced to see the sorrow on the faces of his family and friends, to learn about his life, his hopes, his dreams, his struggles. Because if false rape claims were treated the way the "equally serious crime" of rape is treated, Mr. Daye would be alive today.
I think its been an interesting trip beyond the veil for a lot of us , i read back over the report done here on the case and i heard nothing but condemnation for what happened and good words for the victim in that case, we saw her suffering from a false conviction for a crime, something we all despise seeing and we saw her first and foremost as a victim of the wrong and thats what draws me to this site , one of the biggest things the MRA does is it sees people as people , its not a sum zero game, gender is not the motivating factor for us and eventually whackjobs like she who will not be named will find themselves raging against the world alone.
I love how she closed her comments after you linked to her story, and called this site a "PRO-RAPE" site.
the perfect counterpoint , this guys conviction was quashed on appeal .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-13160141
It is my well-considered opinion that there has not ever been, at False Rape Society, any expression of sentiment ambiguous enough to be construed, in good faith, as 'pro-rape'.
In her construal then, Ms McEwan is guilty of the crime of libel. She has, acting in bad faith, associated you with a position you have never once expressed support for, and she has done this is the knowledge that her libelous statement would be read and taken seriously by the people who regularly read her website, which are, I understand, not only a few.
With this in mind: I must insist that you do everything you can to make sure she does not get away with her crime.
The irony that this particular website - which draws attention primarily to the false claims of rape made by women, and the defense of such acts by feminists - should fall victim to the very same vileness - has surely not passed any of us by.
But words are words, and deeds deeds. Nor should the appropriate punishment pass Ms McEwan by.
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