This is an actual comment posted under a story to this site today -- all because I have the audacity to advocate for persons who've been falsely accused of rape:
"After reading this, at first I thought to myself that I hope that one day your daughter is raped so that you may understand what actually happens to a woman after she is raped. But after thinking more carefully, I realized that I hope you never have a daughter. She would be so hurt and damaged by your ignorance and hate towards women. I urge you to ask any raped woman about her police experience. I urge you to genuinely listen to her story. I urge you to educate yourself before you blog about things of which you have absolutely no understanding."
Ah, the drive-by snipers who've pegged us a rape apologists because we dare to speak up for the falsely accused! The fact is, dear writer, we don't malign rape victims, we are allied with rape victims. Many rape victims have advised us that they agree with our work because -- mirabile dictu! -- they loathe and detest false accusers almost as much as their own rapists. It is only feminist activists who conflate rape victims and false accusers.
Note that this writer wished another female to be raped -- to teach me a lesson. Can anyone fathom a sentiment more vile, more grotesque, more twistedly hateful, than this? If that is representative of feminism, then I can assert with the utmost confidence that no decent person is a feminist.
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By the same argument, feminists haven't waged a war against "the patriarchy" but against the brothers, fathers and sons.
I have read responses that say that false rape accusations wouldn't be so credible if men weren't laughing at rape jokes. IOW if they weren't supporting rape culture, and of course, the same old conclusion that "men have to change".
And in the same vein, laugh when they are kicked in the groin on TV.
As for this lovely comment from other thread:
"This mindset that a woman's dress is indicative of her consent is so fucking asinine."
If only we were swinging around trees naked, this wouldn't be a problem!
Truly grotesque.
Well said.
This is my new favorite quote. Brilliant on a whole nother level.
I'm sorry that after all you do for decent people that you get such vile comments directed at you personally. It goes even beyond those idiot shamming comments by feminists calling anyone who criticizes feminism a misogynist.
The commentator wrote: "... after thinking more carefully..." What? I assume it is a she calls what she does thinking? Unfortunately, she has the same voting rights that we do and is happy to see this country continue to slide from a Constitutional Republic to a Fascist State using Democracy as an rationale for its actions.
Feminism is a religious disorder.
Yet more proof, were it needed, that 'feminism' is nothing more than a serious mental illness, and one from which men do not suffer, although there are some deluded feeble minded idiots (as shown by Dear Woman, for instance) who think themselves advanced and say it has something wonderful to offer us all.
Feminists demonstrate clearly why it was that our ancestors denied to women the rights, with attendant responsibilities, they took for themselves. People don't change, history repeats itself, etc etc etc (and a hundred other cliches that are none the less truisms) and I'm convinced we've been in this position before. We're learning again what our ancestors learned the hard way and taught their descendants, a lesson we've ignored to our cost: At the end of the day life is easier and more pleasant for men, women and children if women have no 'rights'.
PS: Although funny this has a serious message: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyWBmTq3JJw&feature=player_embedded
"I urge you to genuinely listen to her story. I urge you to educate yourself before you blog about things of which you have absolutely no understanding.""
Apparently this advice only goes one way for her...
It's because wimminz know that rape is just an assault for wimminz, it really isn't that traumatic, but the wimminz also know that for a man having your mum/sister/daughter raped is the most vomit inducing and harrowing thing imaginable.
For these wimminz, that means rape is worthwhile, which is why they promote it at every opportunity, while claiming to be against it.
It's exactly like the Ministry of Defence claiming to want nothing to do with Libya.
My comment on that thread:
It's interesting how many feminists who drive-by here advocate the rape of women as a means of teaching someone a lesson. Every pro-rape comment I have seen here (i.e. "I hope you/a family member gets raped) in three years has been from a feminist. They believe that it is appropriate to threaten people with rape - to 'teach them a lesson' - for talking about false rape claims, of all things.
That speaks volumes about who they are.
"Yet more proof, were it needed, that 'feminism' is nothing more than a serious mental illness, and one from which men do not suffer"
There are plenty of male feminists.
"At the end of the day life is easier and more pleasant for men, women and children if women have no 'rights'."
Going back to what SLWerner wrote earlier, these sort of comments are only something that will be used against us. The problem with liberal feminism isn't that they think women should have the same rights as men, the problem is that they think women should have rights that men don't.
"The problem with liberal feminism isn't that they think women should have the same rights as men, the problem is that they think women should have rights that men don't."
No, the problem is that they think men have undeserved privilege that women don't have, despite the absence of any objectively verifiable evidence for such belief.
We get a fair number of comments here that are an angry backlash to feminism. I certainly don't agree with comments that characterize "women" in any way. I have repeatedly made clear that I share the beliefs of "equity feminist" Christina Hoff Sommers but that the "f" word should be banned altogether because it carries such awful misandric baggage. In the rape area, the feminist activists are radical feminists, and I absolutely see no societal value in anything they do. These women and men are not heirs to the folks who raised awareness about women's rights 100 years ago. They are a twisted detour, a bizarre sidestreet that feeds off of hatred of their own warped stereotype of masculinity.
Anonymous 8:11:00 wrote:
'There are plenty of male feminists.'
Indeed there are, as I stated in that same paragraph. However, I wrote '"feminism" is nothing more than a serious mental illness, and one from which men do not suffer' not 'males do not suffer'. There are many males who are less than men.
'Going back to what SLWerner wrote earlier, these sort of comments are only something that will be used against us. The problem with liberal feminism isn't that they think women should have the same rights as men, the problem is that they think women should have rights that men don't.'
Oh dear. People were afraid to criticise the Nazis in the 1930s for just that reason. Feminazis will use any argument, not just strong comments from men, against men. It's enough merely to have a penis and some balls to provoke them. If you're afraid of criticism perhaps you should cut yours off. Perhaps you have already done so.
As an aside: You seem not to understand the concept of 'rights'.
But after thinking more carefully, I realized that I hope you never have a daughter. She would be so hurt and damaged by your ignorance and hate towards women.
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Actually, all of us know REAL women: the kind who understand that protecting innocent men from persecution is MORE important, if anything, than protecting a make believe daughter from rape.
Not all women stood with Crystal Mangum, as you would, m'lady!
"Every pro-rape comment I have seen here (i.e. "I hope you/a family member gets raped) in three years has been from a feminist."
Over the years I've noticed that the most hateful things said about women have been said by feminist women. It's usually along the lines of "I hope you (or your daughter, sister, etc.) gets raped or beaten." I have never, ever, EVER seen an MRA say anything like that.
Another thing: feminists claim to be fighting for women's rights, but apparently women's rights don't include the right to criticize feminist orthodoxy.
Let's get this straight: we care about false rape victims, we care about rape victims.
We do not approve of those who would politicize these issues, and, unfortunately, that's what has happened.
When someone comments here about how terrible "women" are, or how it's only natural that women who dress promiscuously are raped, etc. no rational person shares those views. Women should no more be stereotyped than blacks, Jews, or men. And men are more than capable of controling themselves from raping naked women. I can't filter out every comment that expresses a wrong-headed view.
"Not all women stood with Crystal Mangum, as you would, m'lady!"
Indeed - the girls' lacrosse team stood by the falsely accused men.
Instances like that are always worth recalling. Although women have the power to make false rape accusations against men, it is not a case of men vs women. Not even remotely.
The support from women has been overwhelming. It always has been. And not because of any 'patriarchal false consciousness' nonsense. It's because, like most men, most women are capable of discerning right from wrong. That is why so many women have voiced their opposition to a legal system that enables false rape claims to crucify innocent men.
It's also worth remarking that women are also the victims of false rape and abuse claims, and that this is every bit as abhorrent as when men are the victims, although it seems to occur far less frequently.
Not only do I criticize feminism; I quote it. "Modern day feminists" can claim they "have not heard of old and radical feminists" but they sure as hell tow the lines for them and their idiotologies.
Not all women are feminists and not all feminists are women.
FRS Mod said...
"Not all women stood with Crystal Mangum, as you would, m'lady!"
Indeed - the girls' lacrosse team stood by the falsely accused men.
Instances like that are always worth recalling. Although women have the power to make false rape accusations against men, it is not a case of men vs women. Not even remotely.
The support from women has been overwhelming. It always has been. And not because of any 'patriarchal false consciousness' nonsense. It's because, like most men, most women are capable of discerning right from wrong. That is why so many women have voiced their opposition to a legal system that enables false rape/assault claims to crucify innocent men.
Apr 8, 2011 1:28:00 PM
respectfully fixed
(false assault claims are another way to destroy a mans'/boys' life)
If in doubt, consult with the feminist piece of legislation known as the violence against women act (VAWA).
And men are more than capable of controling themselves from raping naked women.
I agree even with what I said yesterday. Yesterday, I brought up the stripping in the bedroom scenario as one reason the logic of what the feminazis were saying saying was stupid.
Another scenario this time isn't just from the SGI but white knighting manginas. They seem to think that any normal guy would pounce on a chick if she strips in any public place. The manginas especially brag about how much self-control they have since they don't pounce super-drunk chicks at parties that strip their clothes off screaming at the top of their lungs (there are chicks that do this) trying to shame other men. I laugh and tell them of course you wouldn't. No normal guy is turned on by that type of behavior. It actually turns them off, especially the guys who are sober. That's normal men behavior.
Only sick freaks would want to bang a chick there. The SGI don't get that.
"The SGI just doesn't get it."
That is called being willfully obtuse.
The support from women has been UNDERwhelming.
"Most women know right from wrong."
If so they choose not to excersise their actions accordingly.
The false domestic abuse claims are a standard tactic
and also tied in with the other guys observations about MEN manipulating statistics for the SGI to get PAID.
Money corrupts morality, time to stop the Federal kickbacks to local Judges.
Time to demand real statistics from LE.
Time to not just drop the case due to lack of evidence, but prove it was a lie, and take it off the stats as an unproven rape.
This would multiply the proven FRS rates, lowering the rape rate,all with existing data shown in a truthful context.
But the fact is men are disposable and do not have ANY standing in a courtroom.
@ Anon
"Time to ..." etc.
I agree it would be nice if we could do all these things, but saying "it's time to" do them doesn't achieve much.
Maybe I should rephrase my earlier comment. People agitating about FRAs are a distinct minority, although the numbers are growing. From what I see, women make up about half of those advocating for the falsely accused. I could be wrong, but that's what my experience tells me. That was the sense in which I meant that women's response has been 'overwhelming' - it overwhelmed me when I realised this because I expected it to be almost entirely men concerned with the injustice of false accusations.
"The problem with liberal feminism isn't that they think women should have the same rights as men, the problem is that they think women should have rights that men don't."
No, the problem is that they think men have undeserved privilege that women don't have, despite the absence of any objectively verifiable evidence for such belief."
Those are hardly mutually exclusive. They use one to justify the other.
"Oh dear. People were afraid to criticise the Nazis in the 1930s for just that reason. Feminazis will use any argument, not just strong comments from men, against men. It's enough merely to have a penis and some balls to provoke them. If you're afraid of criticism perhaps you should cut yours off. Perhaps you have already done so."
No, no one was afraid to criticize the Nazis because it made them look like a jackass, and making stupid comments from behind your computer is hardly an act of courage. I have no fear of being criticized for stating what I actually believe. This blog has always stood for the rights of women who have been falsely accused, and for true victims of actual rape. So saying that that women should have no rights, is nothing but inflammatory nonsense that exposes the speaker as an irrational bigot, and undermines its purpose.
"This blog has always stood for the rights of women who have been falsely accused, and for true victims of actual rape."
This blog also stands as affirmation and a sounding board for women who have experienced FRAs of their beloved men - their brothers, sons, fathers, uncles, grandfathers, boyfriends, and male friends.
No man is an island - false accusations harm us all.
To the sisters in arms who wish other women to be raped in order to teach falsely accused men to STFU about false accusations, one thing is perfectly loud and clear: NO woman who has experienced true actual rape wishes or supports a false rape accusation.
Such a suggestion shows your are mentally ill. You need help.
What is with the rad-fems always wishing rape upon others? It's like they have no sensitivity at all to actual rape victims. And that's always been the case around here.
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William Gruff said: "Yet more proof, were it needed, that 'feminism' is nothing more than a serious mental illness..."
Of course there is actually zero proof that any political beliefs are the cause or result of mental illness. Conservatives/liberals are prone to trading this barb and it sounds asinine no matter the source or target.
And you, not Archivist, are the one with muddled concepts of rights, women's rights, and radical feminism.
To all the feminists using language like "How would you like to be raped!?!" or "Can you imagine your daughter be raped"...
I posit this hypothetical... A better question would be "Would you rather be raped or lay in prison innocent for 20 years".
I will proudly say that I would RATHER be raped by a gang, than to lay in prison innocent for 20 years.
When someone asks "imagine your daughter raped", to you I posit the following question:
"If you had a choice between seeing your daughter lose 20 years in prison innocent, or being raped (and rapist free), what would you choose"?
Because this is what its REALLY about. Its not about whether women get raped or not. Its about the balance between how many innocent men go to jail for 20 years vs. how many rape victims don't enjoy the piece of mind of having their attacker punished.
Where does this person identify as feminist? I don't see it in their post. You can't make a massive generalization about feminism based on one quote, especially when nowhere in that quote does the person say "I am a feminist and I believe..."
Get it straight, Professor. I don't give a flying fuck how someone identifies herself. That comment is written by a feminist -- e.g., that we "hate" women and don't understand rape, etc. And you know what? It's typical of comments we hear from FEMINISTS. If you identify as a feminist, either you buy into that horseshit, or you need to denounce your affiliation with that sad man-hating cult.
I posted your inane comment only as a teaching moment. Now go troll somewhere else.
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