Monday, April 4, 2011
Frat boy antics create hostile sexual environment at Yale, say chronically offended gender warriors
The U.S. Department of Education Office for Civil Rights announced it will investigate Yale University “for its failure to eliminate a hostile sexual environment on campus, in violation of Title IX.” The announcement stems from a complaint filed by 16 Yale students and alumni over Yale’s supposed inadequate response to a "long trend of public sexual harassment" on Yale’s campus.
The incident that broke the proverbial camel's back occurred last October when a group of Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity pledges surrounded by brothers from the same fraternity loudly chanted “No means yes! Yes means anal!” outside Old Campus, the area on Yale’s campus where most freshman women live. Other instances include the September 2009 so-called “Preseason scouting report” email in which a group of male Yale students widely circulated a list of fifty-three freshman women ranking them in order of how many beers it would take to have sex with them. And in January, 2008 a group of pledges from the Zeta Psi fraternity surrounded the entrance to the Yale Women’s Center at midnight holding signs bearing the message, “We Love Yale Sluts.”
Horrors! Frat boys acting like . . . frat boys! My guess is that the typical Yale woman's reaction to these crude and vulgar antics is the equivalent of a mildly perturbed roll of the eyes. But then again, unlike the 16 students and alumni who filed the complaint, the typical Yale woman does not have skin resembling the model of the translucent woman in the school's biology lab.
It's just another in an endless cavalcade of puerile, ritualistic gender passion plays at vaunted American universities, staged by the chronically offended purveyors of misandry who insist on dominating the public discourse on all things gender. These gender warriors stand ever vigilant to blow any display of male sexual misbehavior, the more trifling the better, into evidence of "rape culture" they can cite to vilify an entire gender.
So what else is new?
Put it this way: for the past four decades, women's activists have insisted that our mass media portray women not as helpless pawns or victims but as doers -- forces who can throw punches, kick male butt, crush testicles, and overwhelm evil at least as well as the guys.
So, what message do the chronically offended Yale gender feminists send to the world? That a little mindless frat boy activity -- and take a deep breath, that's all it was -- is enough to cause not just eye rolling but conniptions; to warrant not just a rebuke, but the aid of the cavalry.
The message they send is another self-inflicted setback for women: that women need special protections to shield them from the slightest, most trivial, most inconsequential offense. That message does all women a grave disservice -- because women can't be empowered by insisting they are powerless.
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Great finishing line...
Sums up neatly the great feminist paradox that women are powerless yet all powerful.
OT(important!): http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/04/03/north.carolina.lacrosse.accuser/
(CNN) -- The woman who accused three Duke University lacrosse players of rape five years ago was arrested Sunday, suspected of stabbing her boyfriend, police said.
Officers responding to a call early Sunday about a stabbing at an apartment in Durham, North Carolina, found a 46-year-old man who had been stabbed in the torso, police said. He was taken to Duke University Hospital for treatment of serious injuries.
(Let's see if the lying cunt can squirm out of this one, with the help of her misandrist enablers!)
In 10 years they will look back wistfully to the days that men paid any attention at all- but alas...it will be too late. They have priced themselves out of the market.
Well, comrades, I for one am glad they have gotten the government officials involved. Maybe they can send the frat boys off to Siberia. It's important the government regulate every human interaction if we want to remain the New Soviet Union.
"Other instances include the September 2009 so-called “Preseason scouting report” email in which a group of male Yale students widely circulated a list of fifty-three freshman women ranking them in order of how many beers it would take to have sex with them."
I don't understand. Are we talking how many beers the guy would have to drink or how many you'd have to give her?
But seriously, this is yet another attempt to intrude still further into private domains by feminists hellbent on establishing a hostile environment FOR MEN. The ultimate endgame here is women claiming damages for things they THINK you might be THINKING about them.
It will come to that unless we put a stop to it before then.
I'm curious about the reason WHY the ivy-league young men choose to behave in what can be described as a crude manner. IMHO, the 'alleged' various acts of the men are emotional reactions to campus feminism and the special-class status females have in the schools along with the anti-male bias.
It's good to read that many young men have not been indoctrinated, by femi-nazi Amerika, into being obedient pro-feminist chivalrous males. Go Yale Frat Men!
"IMHO, the 'alleged' various acts of the men are emotional reactions to campus feminism and the special-class status females have in the schools along with the anti-male bias."
My guess is that these antics were intended to be bitingly satirical, to poke fun at the sancitmonious, humorless, self-important gender police. There seems to be a heightened awareness at some schools that the feminism practiced on our campuses the past two decades is prone to excesses. I doubt greatly that the antics were in any sense malicious. But to hear the chronically offended tell it, it's as if a cross was just burned on the front yard of a black family.
If these sanctimonious banshees were truly concerned about gender equity, they'd be prodding the university administration why men are staying away from college in droves instead of doing things that reaffirm for men that college isn't an especially friendly place for the Y-chromosome.
The American gender-Raunch community are offended by all the heterosexual males on American university campuses. This would seem silly if it were not the truth.
The roots of "American gender-Raunch Empowerment" are directly intertwined with how they have perverted American law enforcement to "Manufacture statistics" that serve to "Empower" gender-raunch.
Gender-Raunch have not "Empowered" themselves by extolling the virtues of "Gender-Raunch", they have "empowered" themselves by attacking.."Non gender-raunch", meaning heterosexuals.
If i ever have a son, i will send him to an all boys school, so he will not be harassed by gender-Raunch perverts.
I am glad to see such a backlash happening on college campuses...
When I was in college, it was always various women's groups berating male sexuality - labeling them all as rapists or pedophiles.
It made me sick.
Loosely related:
American University Says No to DOJ Grant Over Mandatory Sexual Assault Classes and Surveys
My guess is that the typical Yale woman's reaction to these crude and vulgar antics is the equivalent of a mildly perturbed roll of the eyes
After they roll their eyes they'll try to hook up with them. The frat boys ability to score the hottest chicks on campus probably increased after those incidents.
Sharp, that's the real joke here. I would be astounded if any of these incidents left any of these young men as a outcasts, devoid of female attention. And that only goes to underscore how insane it is for feminists to insist they "speak" for women. What we have here is 16 angry activists -- present and past students at Yale -- who've turned this into an issue.
These issues are not at the foreftont of hardly anyone's agenda, folks. The majority of Yales students will know essentially nothing about this matter.
"Well, the case of Joseph Ntshongwana, the vengeful father and ex-South Africa rugby player who beheaded one of his daughter's rapists and killed two others with an axe, takes a bit of a horrifying turn today. According to The Australian, the rape of his daughter didn't happen -- and, well, he doesn't even appear to have a daughter. That's right. This triple murder was no revenge and he is no father...
After Ntshongwana's court appearance and an outpouring of public sympathy for his plight, police announced that no rape was being investigated as a result of Ntshongwana's crimes -- that they can't even confirm the man has a daughter."
http://thestir.cafemom.com/teen/118378/father_avenging_daughters_rape_is
Let's state two things right off the bat:
A. The displayed behavior was reprehensible but it was clearly meant as a satire or joke.
B. This is clearly all about politics.
That being said, please remember that this particular frat has a reputation for this type of stuff, and it's a rather elite frat, so it doesn't speak for the character of most men on campus.
And here is what I want to know:
How is the Justice Department's politically based meddling going to affect THE AVERAGE Joe Schmoe on campus who had nothing to do with this stuff at all? Does anyone give a crap, or will this be more punishing/shaming males for being male? Because once the "Justice" Department gets involved in one of these "hostile environment" cases any consideration of justice or moderation typically goes ou tthe windows.
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Mr Werner, Thanks for the link, for this shows real life resistance to gender-raunch Empowerment, at the expense of everyone else.
Remember folks, the Duke university girls lacrosse team stood up for their counterpart males, and called crystal gail magnum what she really was, a violent, lying, sick and twisted, crack head.
It was the Duke university "gender-Raunch 88", who inflamed the masses to almost the point of open violence.
. . . and feminists scolded the Duke women's team for showing solidarity with their (innocent) brothers. Another example that it's not "men versus women," it's extremists versus males.
"The displayed behavior was reprehensible . . . ."
It was bad taste, the way Alex Karras punching a horse in "Blazing Saddles" was in bad taste. The way Harpo Marx supposedly repeatedly punching a woman in the stomach in "Animal Crackers" was bad taste. Since the characters' outrageous actions were performed in the context of comedies and no rational onlooker viewed them as replications of reality, no rational viewer could have been offended by their acts. No rational viewer could view them as endorsements of violence against animals or women.
The Yale boys were not making fun of rape; they were making fun of the political issue rape has become. The protesting ninnies at Yale know full well that the frat boys were not condoning rape. They are just angry that anyone would dare make fun of their ideology, which treats rape as a sacrament and the symbol of all male oppression.
Personally, I don't find it a bit funny. A well aimed shot at the "one-in-four" canard would have been a better idea.
. . . and feminists scolded the Duke women's team for showing solidarity with their (innocent) brothers
The Duke women's team did that? That's good to hear. We need more girls white knighting for men for a change, or white maidening, not sure what to call it.
Hey ladies, we need more female white knights. I little help ova here.
^^^ I spelled my name wrong.
One way to say female white knight is:
White Chevaleresse. We should popularize this and start a meme.
"A. The displayed behavior was reprehensible but it was clearly meant as a satire or joke."
I don't think it was "reprehensible" at all. Maybe a little juvenile.But certainly not any more "reprehensible" than the famous F-list or women secretly talking amongst themselves about the size of random guys' penises. Women do this crap ALL THE TIME. They just do it where the men can't overhear it and then giggle about it when the guys are around. Male sexuality is more public and less concerned with appearances, it doesn't make it "worse" by any stretch of the imagination.
"B. This is clearly all about politics."
Totally agree. It's the politics of hatred of males, the political platform of the feminazi party.
"The Duke women's team did that? That's good to hear. We need more girls white knighting for men for a change, or white maidening, not sure what to call it."
Women do it ALL THE TIME. If you could see the emails we get here you'd be shocked -- most are from women telling us about their loved one's false rape claim. The pain these women are experiencing is true and profound. And they are splendid advocates, too. No equivocation. It's as if gender isn't an issue at all -- they see an innocent loved one and that's all they care about. And that, I think, is typical of MOST women in this country.
Ah, what fun. Just makes me glad I never went to University, let alone a Uni in the US.
Chant some slogans, pass around a hot prospects list and it's a hostile sexual environment. If so, how would one describe the sexual environment at, say...Duke University after the "fuck list" went public? Where was the DOE Office of Civil Rights on that one?
Unfortunately, this is the state of gender politics in America. To feminists, manginas, and PC puppets double standards are empowering even heroic if you are female. Perpetually groping for victim is empowering.
"Women do it ALL THE TIME. If you could see the emails we get here you'd be shocked -- most are from women telling us about their loved one's false rape claim."
Hopefully we can mobilize them to fight for their loved ones.They are really the ones we'll have to have on the front lines of this gender war.They're the only people who can say "Stop prosecuting innocent men" without the feminists attacking their credibility as "fat,small-dicked losers".
It's a shame it's come to that,but women, if you won't fight for your male loved ones, there are very few other people who can and will either.
"The U.S. Department of Education Office for Civil Rights announced it will investigate Yale University for its failure to eliminate a hostile sexual environment on campus, in violation of Title IX.”
If this constitutes a hostile sexual environment, how would you describe the sexual environment on the Duke campus during its false rape scandal, or more recently, Karen Owen's release of her "fuck list"?
Anyone recall where the office of civil rights was on these incidents? I can't.
I'm choking on the irony (hypocrisy might be better) that office for civil (womens') rights is investigating possible title ix violations. The legislative intent (what the courts hind behind to justify institutional discrmination against men) was to help women, the actual text of the law does not refer to women in relation to the types of discrimination instutions receiving federal funds are prohibited from.
Under title ix, educational institutions that receive federal funding cannot discriminate on the basis of GENDER. So I find ironic/hypocritical/or a complete load of BS, that current judicial interpretation of title ix and its enforcement is in direct violation of the law...par for the course in the backasswards world of feminism.
Really, now. Feminism aside, common decency should be sufficient reason to denounce the behaviors of these disgusting young men. Being a "frat boy" is not a get-out-of-civilization-free card.
Except that their "transgressions" amounted to nothing. No one took it seriously; it was not akin to burning a cross in a black family's yard or making fun of a handicapped person. It is "disgusting" only when viewed through the hyper-sensitive lens of gender political correctness.
If the feminists hadn't convinced you that rape culture is a vile, rampant problem, please don't tell me you'd think these were "disgusting young men."
"Being a "frat boy" is not a get-out-of-civilization-free card."
IMHO being female is more realistically associated with "getting out of your responsibility card to act socially and legally" requirement that males are upheld too.
The false-rape allegation at Duke, a few years ago, is more than enough proof to all that being a 'Frat Boy' and a white wealthy one produced the exact opposite experience for the LaCrosse Team. Actually, it was the false-rape accuser (a minority female) that was never charged for her filing a false police report.
Here is even more outrageous case:
"In the end, these efforts demonstrated that the organization had taken a turn in a positive direction but fell short of dissuading the University from taking further action.
“There is still a significant cultural change that needs to occur,” Golder said. “My very strong feeling is that it is a privilege to be a housed organization."
http://www.stanforddaily.com/2011/03/28/university-explains-kappa-sigma-decision/
http://www.stanforddaily.com/2011/04/04/boardman-declines-kappa-sigma-housing-appeal/
So, if the investigation establishes that these sixteen little gals at Yale have a case, do ALL female university students from border to border and coast to coast also magically become victims, a la Wal-Mart?
I can't decide whether campus feminists know their antics are nuts but do them anyway, to take a stab at get-evenism, or whether they sincerely believe the clap-trap they claim....
Wait. Silly me. Of course I can decide.
Mr. Martin notes, "Being a "frat boy" is not a get-out-of-civilization-free card."
Very well. You frat boys, behave yourselves. Go study or get a pizza or something.
A. Archivist swings and whiffs. I have no sympathy at all for feminist misandry.
B. That false charges were made and justice abused at Duke doesn't excuse cruddy frat boy behavior one bit.
There is an alternative to both stupid feminism and stupid anti-feminism: dignity.
I like the one fellow idea to use the word "rape" randomly in sentences in public.
"Umm that burger was raping good!"
Archivist: It is inappropriate of them. Consent is not something to joke about, even if our courts are screwed up on that count.
I am disgusted in their behaviour (not offended, but I do find it disgusting). It's juvenile at best, and university students should be above that, at least publicly. Privately, whatever, but in public, they should be showing themselves as mature adults.
It seems to have remained unnoticed, that the "helpless woman syndrome" has led to sexual harrassment laws that punish male words, thoughts, eye movements. This is nothing new.
Now the falsely accusing bitch using knife violence, that is interesting. It shows a criminal mindset that uses whatever means necessary. I wonder if the jury can be informed of the prior false accusation!
OT(important!): http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/04/03/north.carolina.lacrosse.accuser/
>(CNN) -- The woman who accused three Duke University lacrosse players of rape five years ago was arrested Sunday, suspected of stabbing her boyfriend, police said.
Note: the woman is the accused, and the stabbed man with serius injuries is not called "victim"
"Really, now. Feminism aside, common decency should be sufficient reason to denounce the behaviors of these disgusting young men."
No one is excusing the behavior or failing to appreciate the fact that it was socially unacceptable. My point is that no one was harmed by the behavior,some people probably thought it was funny as hell, both male and female, and women get uproarious applause for doing similar things whereas everybody knows it's "dirty" for a man to do it, that's WHY it's funny.
So no, nobody thinks it's ok, or cool,but it IS harmless and sometimes funny. If it DOES cause harm, you have to make the case that it causes harm when women do similar things and call those women disgusting, or else show why we have a double-standard on these issues where women get applause but men get called "disgusting".
I personally think it's easier on everybody if we all admit that it isn't cool,SOCIALLY,when anybody does things like this, but it doesn't REALLY hurt anybody in any measurable way and can sometimes be funny,even if impolite.
That would be the intellectually honest route.
Nicolas and Sonja, might I gently and respectfully suggest that you both reserve your disgust for conduct that actually hurts people, as opposed to conduct that we are told we are supposed to be disgusted about. If you need examples of things that hurt people to help you, just scroll through this blog, post by post.
And go take a hefty dose of fiber.
Archivist: I have PLENTY of disgust for behaviour which hurts people, PARTICULARLY when it's excused by others as 'rare', or put into the 'you can't hold them accountable because' basket.
Behaviour can be disgusting even when it doesn't hurt anyone, and I'd say this qualifies.
Feminists shouldn't be making the huge deal of it that they are, and the fact that it's been taken to a federal government department is just moronic, to say the least.
Doesn't mean that the guys weren't being immature idiots.
I will reserve my disgust for conduct that is truly disgusting, thank you very much.
Behaviour can be disgusting even when it doesn't hurt anyone, and I'd say this qualifies.
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We'll worry about nosepickers after the false rape accusers are behind bars.
I have noticed how a lot of women nowadays tend to label anything and everything 'disgusting'.
This poses some problems, not least of which is that I may be thinking about all the disgusting things I would like to do with a certain woman. Then I think, 'oh no! Maybe she will be disgusted by the mere thought of it!'.
The biggest problem in relations between the sexes today is that men are disgusting while women are perpetually disgusted. But it does raise an interesting question. If it is possible for a man to rape a woman with his mind or his eye, is it not also possible to disgust a woman by a man's thoughts, words, or indeed very existence? Indeed, I put it that mind disgust or existential disgust is the ugly cousin of eye rape.
Or as they put it in philosophy, if a man is alone in the forest, and there is no woman around to judge him, does he still cause disgust?
"Behaviour can be disgusting even when it doesn't hurt anyone, and I'd say this qualifies."
Sonja, I have seen many of your posts here. You seem a very decent and level-headed person. Please do not take this the wrong way but I think you might be injecting your personal feelings,as a woman, about being sexually propositioned by men you don't know into this debate.
You are entitled to those feelings and they are common in women, you are not an outlier there.
However, let me put it in perspective. This kind of behavior is certainly indecent, that much is 100% true. But it is not uncommon for women to do similar things. They do not publicly stand outside frat houses and catcall young men, but they don't need to. Women walk around all day in short skirts and tight shirts with their cleavage showing, which a man's brain interprets sexually (and these women know it), sexually propositioning men they don't know all day long,VISUALLY rather than VERBALLY.
The only difference is men are not allowed to complain about it.
I support that position, these women should be allowed to wear whatever they want and sexually proposition men all day long, it is indecent,and yes,even IMMATURE of them, but it harms no one.
Because I support the right of these women to do this, I cannot logically or fairly say that these men don't have the RIGHT to do the same thing, in the manner that they choose to,i.e., verbally.
I believe it is wrong for them to do it, just like I believe it is wrong for the women to do it, but I support the RIGHT of BOTH groups to do it and can't call the men's behavior "disgusting" and the women's "sexy". It's the same behavior. If I hand a spoon to a woman, it does not magically transubstantiate into a knife because a woman is holding the same utensil,it remains a spoon no matter who is wielding it.
Nick S., right on. I stand by what I wrote. It is unfortunate that some of our readers parrot the hypersensitive language of the perpetually offended.
I think the kids acted retarded and could use a reality check. On the other hand, I think the feminazis will milk this for everything its worth and use it as a political weapon and also try to make a connection to men in general.
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