Another bill is introduced that would eliminate the statute of limitations for sex crimes. This one, involving sex crimes against minors, was introduced in Oregon. One of the bill's supporters, Rep. Dave Hunt, D-Gladstone, says bill will cover a short list of serious abuses. He says it's only fair for victims in these cases to get a lifetime to come forward, since the effects of childhood sexual and physical abuse are lifelong.
Before discussing these issues, let's make a point that we shouldn't need to say: the thought that a man who molested a child might be permitted to go unpunished is thoroughly repulsive. The natural inclination would be to wish much harm on such a man.
But even worse is the thought that an innocent man -- perhaps your father, uncle, brother, son, or even you -- might be wrongly imprisoned for a sex crime he didn't commit that supposedly occurred 30 or 40 or more years ago. That is even more repulsive.
Before discussing Oregon's bill, let us briefly review the current status of sex crime statutes of limitations.
IN GENERAL
In recent years, in state after state, legislatures "have adopted varying extensions to their criminal statutes of limitations for cases of sexual assault." Some states have eliminated time limitation for bringing rape charges of varying kinds altogether. Depending on the state, there are special rules for extending the rape statute of limitations for claims involving minors, for claims where the identity of the perpetrator is established by DNA, for claims involving authority figures, and on and on it goes.
But open-ended extensions or eliminations of statutes of limitations for purported cases of rape and sexual assault can pose grave problems for innocent persons wrongly accused of those crimes. With an open-ended statute of limitations, there is nothing to stop a woman from coming forward and accusing a man of an alleged rape that occurred decades earlier.
Arresting a man for something he allegedly did on a certain Tuesday in July of 1981 places him at a severe, and possibly insurmountable, evidentiary disadvantage. The innocent man likely has no recollection whatsoever of where he was on the day in question. He likely long ago discarded any tangible proof that could show either that could establish an alibi for the particular night at issue. He likely discarded any calendars he used as well as any invoices, receipts, or credit card statements to show he was out of town or dining or shopping elsewhere at the time. Any witnesses who might have established either an alibi likely either have died, disappeared, or wouldn't have any better recollection than the accused.
There is, in short,virtually no possibility that the man would be able to say anything more than "I know I didn't do it, but I don't remember anything about the night in question." If brought to trial, he would be like the warrior of old entering battle stripped of his shield and sword.
While we can hope that no prosecutor in his or her right mind would charge a man so many years after the fact, we know that prosecutors can't always be counted on to do the right thing. That fact is as irrefutable as the spelling of the word "Nifong." Issues such as this simply should not be left to their discretion.
If the goal is simply to convict as many rapists as possible without concern that some falsely accused men might be swept up in the dragnet, these efforts to extend or eliminate the statute of limitations for rape would be valid. But if we cherish Blackstone's Formulation that it is "better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer," these efforts need to be viewed with a jaundiced eye. What is needed when considering these issues is a serious dialogue that includes consideration of the interests of the wrongly accused, not a witch hunt to jack up rape conviction rates. For far too many people, the wrongly accused are unfortunate but necessary collateral damage in the "more important" war on sex crimes. But removing false accusations from the public discourse about rape, and blinking at the victimization of the falsely accused, is unspeakably vile and uncivilized.
OREGON
For the current situation in Oregon, we refer readers to the excellent, even-handed article by Susan Nielsen in The Oregonian found here. Here's an excerpt:
. . . the appeal of erasing the time limits for prosecuting child abuse is obvious. It seems profoundly unfair that any uncle, any priest, any stepdad, any former governor, could slip beyond the law's grasp. And as one victim explained, the time limit seems to imply that a victim should be "over it" by then.
Yet criminal justice isn't just about nabbing known offenders. It's also about ensuring fair trials for all accused people, including those facing false or inflated charges. The purpose of a statute of limitations is to prosecute a case before memories fade, evidence is lost, or witnesses die or move away. This is especially important in Oregon, which doesn't require unanimous juries for criminal convictions.
"It is a due process issue," says legislative director Andrea Meyer of the American Civil Liberties Union of Oregon. "It is the reason we have a statute of limitations, which is to provide the necessary safeguards -- not to protect the guilty, but to protect the innocent."
In recent years, Oregon has extended the time limits for prosecuting sex crimes. The time limit for prosecuting rape is typically six years, and considerably longer for crimes involving children: Those crimes can be prosecuted until the victim turns 30, or within 12 years of an official report. Also, in 2009, Oregon removed the time limit for prosecuting certain sex crimes if the suspect is connected to the crime via DNA. A first-degree rape with DNA evidence can be prosecuted forever, much like a murder.
These time limits seem fair. Keeping the prosecutor's window open for extra years for child sex abuse is important, since a central cruelty of the crime is manipulating a young victim into silence. Closing the window eventually is appropriate, too, especially for cases that rely on individual testimony more than hard evidence.
If Oregon decided to keep the window open forever, it would face some tradeoffs. On the plus side, we might put a few more old creeps in prison. On the minus side, we might discover the typical aging creep becoming less likely to admit wrongdoing in civil suits (or to make amends with family members) when they have the threat of prison time hanging over their heads. Those uncles and priests and stepdads would be stonewalling, denying and character-assassinating like crazy, rather than sometimes acknowledging the harm done.
As for Goldschmidt, he eventually admitted serious wrongdoing for sexually abusing a teenager during the 1970s while serving as Portland mayor. It's not at all clear he would have admitted as much if prison had been an option. More denial would have hurt the victim further and kept the public in the dark, and where's the justice in that?
Oregon should keep most of its focus on the front end -- raising public awareness about child sex abuse, investigating allegations thoroughly, prosecuting cases effectively and helping young survivors recover. If lawmakers can prove that erasing the time limits for abuse would improve the criminal justice system, they could proceed. But they should prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
Link: http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/susan_nielsen/index.ssf/2011/03/the_goldschmidt_bill_time_limi_1.html
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Have any of these efforts ever failed? Seems the popular consensus is to allow this sort of thing.
Thank you. I'm forwarding it to friends in Oregon.
How can anybody disprove an allegation that something happened decades ago? It's impossible. And since our system hypocritically shifts the burden of proof to the defendent this means that any man is a sitting duck.
OT- Sympathies to the people of Japan.
"How can anybody disprove an allegation that something happened decades ago? "
Exactly true. With murder, you at least (usually) have a body and some other evidence.
What sort of evidence exists 30 years hence? Other than recovered memory therapy, and the accuser's word, that is?
Recently, I met an attractive athletic woman much younger than myself who is an engineer for a Fortune 500 firm or so she claims. She really came onto me and suggested that we hang out sometime. I was quite taken with her and we exchanged numbers.
In retrospect, I am not going to follow through and call her. Last month, I met another very attractive pleasant woman about my age and again I did not call to meet up.
Women are simply too mercenary, crazy, and dangerous to take a risk with.
This is especially important in Oregon, which doesn't require unanimous juries for criminal convictions
Does this also mean that a defendant can be acquited the same way?
If you eliminate the statute of limitations of sex crimes -- crimes for which hardly any evidence exists, and which it is virtually impossible to defend against -- why retain a statute of limitations for anything?
Why does our system pretend to be anything other than a carny huckster's rigged games table?
My husband's sister is a serial false accuser.
They are older adults now...time for Mom and Dad to be making out the will.
Suppose she wants to eliminate the "competition" and makes a false accusation against him?
Then she will easily be able to do just that, especially if a unanimous jury isn't required for conviction.
Our system really is something, isn't it? These politicians would never agree to allow women to drive drunk on the freeway but they have no problem allowing any woman to rape any man at any time, using the legal system.
Because the problem of false accusations is largely invisible -- and always less compelling to chivalrists than stories about rape -- the injustice continues.
Happy news! Young man found innocent, his name suppressed.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/fright-night-led-to-rape-claim-20110312-1bs0s.html
A couple of things to consider with this law:
1) These days a Man needs to invest in a digital scanner and electronically keep all of their receipts, lottery tickets, parking slips, blotters, calendars, etc. It's great for tax purposes and may provide the exact alibi needed to keep them out of prison if such laws above are passed. As a man who has run his own business I've always kept good records, but after being falsely accused (and cleared of it a few years ago) I now keep REALLY good records. My phone is always with me that allows me to digitally record my calls and conversations when needed and I do all of those other things that have been suggested here on FRS and elsewhere to keep free of false allegations. Digital storage is cheap, defending a false allegation at trial because you had no evidence to stop it during the investigation phase is not.
2) This law or any other law if enacted would only apply to crimes that occur after the law is passed. We must presume that Oregon is not trying to strike down Article I Section IX of the US Constitution:
"...No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed . . . ."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law
Considering this is an Oregon bill, I would mention the book of an attorney friend of mine, RK Hendrick, who lives in Oregon. His book, which provides great suggestions on how to avoid being falsely accused, can be found at:
http://protectionformen.com
Finally, I would like to mention this excellent piece that appeared a few years ago in the Houston Law Review by James Herbie DiFonzo, entitled "In Praise of Statutes of Limitations in Sex Offense Cases"
http://www.oranous.com/florida/JimmyAtes/difonzo.pdf
We need to flood the Oregon Legislature with links to this blog and the Sean Penn documentary "Witchunt." People need to be made to understand false rape accusations happen a lot more often than we are led to believe!
[If you eliminate the statute of limitations of sex crimes -- crimes for which hardly any evidence exists,---- ]
I thought DNA evidence had to exist to pursue an old rape.
One thing to also consider is the ex post facto implications of such a law.
If this law passes tomorrow and hordes of "victims" come forward to claim their due - it was not the law of the land 10,20,30,40 years ago when the person committed the crime.
According to the now non existant Constitution, it is unContitutional to prosecute someone for a law that did not exist when the crime was committed.
This no longer "counts" now days, since sex offender laws have gutted and made a mockery of what was once the greatest document every produced by a once great country.
Senator Brown - I'm sorry for your "victimhood", but brother -- you took an OATH to defend the Constitution, not destroy it.
That oath, and the document it stands for, are far bigger and important than your "victimhood".
's all I'm sayin'.
[If you eliminate the statute of limitations of sex crimes -- crimes for which hardly any evidence exists,---- ]
I thought DNA evidence had to exist to pursue an old rape.
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Are you fucking kidding? Are you just getting off of the plane from Neverland?
They don't need so much as a cunt hair's width of evidence to charge you with rape, based on nothing more than a tale of something that supposedly happened twenty, or twenty-five, or forty years ago.
The motto is, "No evidence? No problem!"
Welcome to America, buddy!
Tom Bombadil: although I normally recoil when MRAs start talking about "preventing false accusations" -- as if men had any power whatsoever to prevent corrupt, compulsive lying women from spewing their poison! -- "keep good records" is indeed good advice.
Especially if your potential false accuser has the bad habit of writing about what a scumbag she is!
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The other way, of course, is to dwell within a land in which you have absolute power, with a traditional female like Goldberry. (Wouldn't it be great if Tom Bombadil was a real guy, and a men's rights attorney?)
"---it is unContitutional to prosecute someone for a law that did not exist when the crime was committed.
But rape has always been against the law.
@Anonymous 13 Mar 2011 02:17:00 PM
"But rape has always been against the law."
...As have false accusations of rape. The topic here, though, is about proposed laws eliminating statutes of limitations for certain classes of people who are complainants in sex crime cases, and the person you quoted was speaking about ex post facto in the enforcement of such a law, if passed. Please see my link above about James Herbie Difonzo's article, entitled "In Praise of Statutes of Limitations in Sex Offense Cases" to see why such laws eliminating statutes of limitations are so dangerous.
Tom Bombadil - ”...As have false accusations of rape.”
Actually, the only thing that’s against the law with regard to a false rape allegation is the part wherein a false report is made to police (in most jurisdictions). Even in the UK, the felony-level Perverting the Course of Justice (which has seen numerous women get much deserved prison for FRA’s) does not specifically make the false reporting of rape itself illegal, just the false reporting to authorities (thus, leading to a perversion of justice).
This is a source of endless frustration, because, whereas there are typically laws on the books spelling out individual offenses (i.e. urinating in a public place) which can be charged, there is almost never a statute that declares that making a false allegation of rape to be a crime (to my knowledge, there are none – but, I cannot verify it).
Thus, a woman could stand outside the house of an innocent man, whom she need not have ever even met, and scream that he had raped her – and the only crime she’s be guilty of would be “disturbing the peace”.
There is one frequent poster here who continually argues that law enforcement needs to (go back to) charging those who make false rape allegations. What he does not seem to be able to comprehend that, with no laws on the books that declare make a false rape allegation a crime, the most that a false accuser can be charged with is making a false police report.
And, as if to add insult to injury, in order to charge a false accuser with making a false report to police, it must be reasonably demonstrated that the report was knowingly falsified. Thus, a woman reporting her regretted sexual activity as rape would almost never be chargeable, as there would be no way to show that she absolutely knew she had not been forced into sex in any way.
Demands that police charge woman for false rape allegation are largely misguided (though truly well intentioned) owing to the lack of laws against those false allegations. What is need are laws, created by legislators, to address the current lacking.
@slwerner
False allegations of rape are mutually inclusive with false reports to police. Still I agree totally with you on the idea of making laws specifically for false allegations of rape as a class or category.
"There is one frequent poster here who continually argues that law enforcement needs to (go back to) charging those who make false rape allegations. What he does not seem to be able to comprehend that, with no laws on the books that declare make a false rape allegation a crime, the most that a false accuser can be charged with is making a false police report. "
Yes, I've read your frequent attempts to reason with him, to no avail. Perhaps moderated commentary on FRS will help curtail your need to address him further.
As more innocent people are freed prison and the mens' rights movement becomes more mainstream, I think there will be several bills before federal and state legislatures that will deal with false sexual assault accusations and SAID syndrome. As many have written here before: the accusers should receive the same punishment the accused would have gotten if convicted. You're so right! We need a specific law that the justice system can enforce.
Rape certainly always has been against the law -
Just as murder has.
Murder has no statue of limitations because a dead body is a dead body - SOMEone did it.
A rape claim is just that - a claim.
Maybe true, maybe not.
Even having DNA does not "prove" rape occurred, unless the accuser is a child.
DNA isn't as reliable as the public believes.
If you would like to hear the ACLU testify before the Oregon House Judiciary Committee on March 8, go here: http://www.leg.state.or.us/listn/
You need Real Player installed. Look for the link that says "2011 Session">>"Archives of Committee Meetings from the 2011 Session">>"Judiciary">>03/08/2011.
Here's the email they sent me:
Dear Sequel,
The ACLU of Oregon testified against HB 3057 (our audio testimony is online for House Judiciary on March 8 - http://www.leg.state.or.us/listn/ ). For the reasons we and the other opponents set forth, we oppose HB 3057 and the removal of the statute of limitations. As to whether or not it will proceed, we do not know.
Thank you,
The ACLU of Oregon
Apparently I had the wrong URL for the particular testimony, so I wrote back to the Oregon ACLU for correction. Hopefully they can help. Sorry for the confusion.
Apparently I had the RIGHT place and time after all, just couldn't hear it on the .mp3. Here's a .pdf of the agenda:
http://www.leg.state.or.us/committees/exhib2web/2011reg/HJUD/03-08-2011meetingmaterials/HJUD.03.08.2011.1.00.PM.pdf
OK this is for REAL this time, because I am currently hearing the testimony! lol
http://www.leg.state.or.us/listn/docs/comm.htm
Scroll down to House Committees, Judiciary
After a couple of sob stories from alleged victims of childhood sexual abuse, a woman gets on to talk about the need for PROMPT REPORTING and why removing the Statute of Limitations is counter-intuitive to that. YES! She demolishes their whole argumentation!!!
She also mention a false rape allegation from George Fox University that was printed in the SAME NEWSPAPER that reported on that bill!
Sequel, good work. What's the date on the testimony? There are numerous dates listed -- which is pertinent? Thanks.
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