Tuesday, March 15, 2011

Man Put on Trial for Rape Even Though the Woman Was an Enthusiastic Participant to Sex

A 19-year-old wren, who cannot be named for legal reasons, admitted she returned willingly to the naval base with two sailors -- her lover, leading Artificer Greg Robertson, 22, and his friend, Engineering Technician Kenni Dinnell, 21, who was staying with Mr. Robertson. The wren proceeded to have consensual sex with Mr. Robertson while Mr. Dinnell was in the bathroom. After she had sex with Mr. Robertson, Mr. Robertson fell asleep on the floor. Mr. Dinnell came back in the room and said he shared the bed with the woman fully clothed as there was nowhere else to sleep. He claims she awoke and they had consensual sex. She kissed him passionately.  But when Mr. Robertson, sleeping on the floor, awoke halfway through the sexual encounter between Mr. Dinnell and the the wren, the wren appeared uncomfortable.

When it was over, the wren claimed she had mistaken sailor Mr. Dinnell for Mr. Robertson because both men have Scottish accents. She accused Mr. Dinnell of rape, and the case was adjudicated by a navy court martial. The wren said she blamed herself for drinking too much.

Yesterday, Mr. Dinnell was cleared of rape by the court martial.  Read about it here.

The judge's remarks were stinging:  "This is the sort of case which in my opinion should never have come to court. There cannot be any higher consent to sex than enthusiastic participation in it. She responded for a few minutes to the defendant’s sexual advances. She felt him kissing her neck, kissed him on the lips and then allowed full sexual intercourse to take place. If the defendant genuinely believed she consented, even though that belief may have been mistaken, he is not guilty of rape. She said she blames herself and she must share that responsibility.

"I do not criticise the prosecution because we live in an atmosphere and era that makes it very difficult for the police and prosecuting authorities not to prosecute allegations of this nature."

This case is typical of the cases we deal with on this site: a "he said/she said" rape claim triggered by a night of drunken sex between young people.

The dynamics here are mind-boggling and disconcerting: a man is sleeping on the floor, and his lover and his friend are having sex in the bed nearby.  In terms of the scenarios where the likelihood of a false rape claim is enhanced, this one is off the charts. See here.  But our mission is not to pass moral judgment. Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.

The woman was not unconscious when she willingly participated in sex. Could she legally consent? At what point in a drunken fog do people lose their ability to consent to sex? There is no mistaking noon from midnight, but at what point does twilight become darkness?  And, how on earth is a court supposed to figure this out after-the-fact?  Given the murkiness surrounding sordid affairs of this nature, won't there always be a reasonable doubt as to whether a rape occurred in cases like this? And if so, why was this one brought to trial?

Such is the age we live in, where feminists tell women to "party like the guys," even though studies show women have much greater after-the-fact regret than men.  And men seem utterly clueless about this regret asymmetry that separates the genders -- about how sometimes a woman's feelings of regret are translated into feelings of "being used," and sometimes feelings of "being used" are misinterpreted or purposefully misconstrued as "rape."

These scenarios involving drinking and sex play among young people who are not in a committed relationship are a no-win for both men and women.  Isn't it time we started demanding that our young people deal in a more mature way with drinking and sexual urges, instead of expecting our courts to see through the murkiness and figure out after-the-fact something that is impossible to figure out? 

I refer our readers to this post: The elephant in the room that feminists and men's rights advocates ignore ignore.

10 comments:

Evil Penis said...

Another man whose life was ruined for no reason whatsoever, absolutely ridiculous.

He knew it wasn't rape, the judge knew it wasn't rape, she knew it wasn't rape. What on Earth were the prosecution thinking?

Is it me or is this just insanity?

Anonymous said...

"Is it me or is this just insanity?"

It's insanity.

The idea that someone would try to rape her while he knew her boyfriend was in the same room is preposterous.

She lied after she was stupidly caught cheating.

Druk said...

I like how the judge let the prosecution off with a warning because he recognizes that we live in a rape-hysteria culture. One might even call it a false rape society, if you will. ;)

Dakota0526 said...

I had to read it twice to believe it-What a complete miscarriage of justice.

Scott said...

wow , she couldnt tell the difference because they both had scots accents , as a Scotsman im not too sure how to take that ...

Evil Penis said...

I challenge any single person in the entire world to give me ONE good reason why this woman shouldn't be in prison as we speak.

Both have Scottish accents? This excuse of a female knowingly had sex with her boyfriends friend WHILE HE WAS IN THE ROOM, and that was the best excuse she could come up with?

and NOBODY had the balls to call bullshit?

Why might that be? It couldn't possibly be the feminist inspired hysteria could it?

That would be 'victim' blaming! This 'woman' is a 'victim'

Anonymous said...

Why nit just reform the laws and get the cops out of the bedroom and let people sort this shit out for themselves. Don't have sex if you think you might later regret it. End of problem.

Anonymous said...

"And men seem utterly clueless about this regret asymmetry that separates the genders -- about how sometimes a woman's feelings of regret are translated into feelings of "being used," and sometimes feelings of "being used" are misinterpreted or purposefully misconstrued as rape."

That's a mouthful! I completely agree that men are clueless in these matters, which is one of the major reasons why it be mandatory for all freshmen men to attend sex education orientation.

Anonymous said...

"I completely agree that men are clueless in these matters, which is one of the major reasons why it be mandatory for all freshmen men to attend sex education orientation."

Well, see, here's how it works. Where there is communication, there are TWO parties involved. If the communication isn't effective, then the problem might be on the other side. Here the problem is on the women's side.

Anonymous said...

"I completely agree that men are clueless in these matters, which is one of the major reasons why it be mandatory for all freshmen men to attend sex education orientation."

I would pay to send freshmen men to false rape accusation prevention orientation.