This week it's boys wearing bras. University of Pittsburgh frat brothers modeled soon-to-be recycled bras as part of a fashion show to raise money for the B.R.A. foundation and breast cancer research.
We also see baseball playing boys wearing pink to support breast cancer research.
Boys are entering talent contests to raise huge money for breast cancer research.
You see a lot of things like this in the news, and my question is very simple: which is more representative of young masculinity: the silly, yes, buffoonish, young guys referenced here, or the young rapist?
The question scarcely survives its statement. If you asked this question of 100 people on the street, 99 would get it right.
The only folks who think rape is "normalized" among our young men are the nitwits who read and write hateful militant feminist blogs. Everyone else knows that's just bullshit. Men do not approve of rape. Men typically elicit a visceral outrage to even far-fetched claims of rape that often exceeds women's outrage (you don't see women beating accused rapists who turn out to be innocent with baseball bats). To suggest that efforts to reduce rape by urging women to be careful somehow foment rape is downright pathological. Every normal person agrees with all of this.
But, see, I'm a monster for stating the obvious.
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I think I would do the pink, provided the girl's softball team raised money for testicular cancer. The heels and the bras -- no.
The bra thing is a little creepy for my taste.
"The bra thing is a little creepy for my taste."
I believe emasculation is the point of the exercise and women actually couldn't give a shit about the disease research, as long as they get to neuter a group of men and lord it over them for a week or two.
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IMHO, the act's intent has a goal to emasculate/feminize males while overtly using males to raise money for the primary benefit of women. I wrote 'primary' since males do suffer too when the women they love get breast cancer. Ignoring, not addressing, or being unaware of male health needs (prostate cancer) is simply part of our cultural bs over-dramatizing our fawning over women while ignoring men.
Yeah, the bra thing -- I confess, I kind of knew this would incite the troops. I should have posted it on Spearhead and you'd proably see an explosion. But, we keep getting comments from somebody who is slurring gays. I mean, really, we can't have that. Got to grow up.
These guys are probably more aptly described as chivalrous clowns, but, to play devil's advocate, they surely think they are part of a good cause. And, OK, it is a good cause. My problem is this: how about an event to raise funds for male suicide, etc. once in a while? Breast cancer is awful -- we've had it my family -- but come on! Enough already.
Atlas: bingo!
Women will have us men walking around on all fours, barking like dogs, before too long. All in the name of "equality."
so sexualizing women by parading them in revealing or appealing clothing is evil patriarchal oppression
but men wearing the exact same things is a wonderful way to shine light on a cause
I give up trying to understand feminazi pretzel logic
Just look at Facebook's Causes: The largest breast cancer group is over 10.4 MILLION. Guess how big the largest Prostate cancer group is? 65 thousand! Just so you know, that's only 10 thousand more than the All Men Should be Slaves to Women group. Unbelievable really.
So how come you are not out organizing an equivalent event for male specific cancers?
Seriously-why not organize a "Jockstrap For Testicular Cancer Awareness" event and *ask* women to wear them.
It can start small (the Susan B Komen Foundation was pretty small back in 1982 when founded) but eventually it can grow. It even has a poster boy who has been working to raise awareness for years-Lance Armstrong.
Or you could just go back to complaining that women organized for a cure for a disease they get instead of organizing for a disease men get.
"Or you could just go back to complaining that women organized for a cure for a disease they get instead of organizing for a disease men get."
How about you do it -- we'll support it here, and I'll keep advocating for the falsely accused.
I am not going to do your work for you Archivist. You want to change something? Get off your ass and do it.
Oh, sorry, I thought I was just expressing a generalized view. I didn't know it was MY work.
Tell to what, let me drop everything and you can take over FRS.
If the boys want to do the bra thing, it's harmless fun. And I agree with you that most college guys (and women, too) are open-minded and are probably more ready to get involved in humanitarian type projects than their middle-aged parents. The whole "rape culture" thing is really a sickness that doesn't ring true for any college kids I know. And it's insulting to the young men.
Anon at 8:25: Agree. I often wonder if the militants realize how foolish they sound to intelligent people not drunk on gender issues when they talk about "rape culture." They sound like Obi Wan Kenobi describing "The Force" -- how it surrounds us, etc. It's really a pathetic mindset.
And, of course, I do have problems when the sexual grievance industry uses the student body to draw attention to itself with fright shows like Take Back the Night and silly stunts like Walk a Mile in Her Shoes. But honestly, the guys involved are doing what they think are good things, and young men need all the good PR they can get nowadays.
I am wondering, and this isn't meant to be a criticism, why we bother to respond to this "rape culture" nonsense. It's a made up thing and it doesn't carry any currency outside of far out feminism. I don't think anyone else has even heard of it. My suggestion is that we we don't bother trying to refute it because everyone knows it doesn't exist. For us to even dignify it is like trying prove a negative.
"Or you could just go back to complaining that women organized for a cure for a disease they get instead of organizing for a disease men get."
It's funny how on the one hand men have been endlessly blamed for supposedly monopolizing positions of influence and selfishly looking after their own interests. Yet at the same time men are also blamed for not doing enough to promote their own interests! It is hard to win against this kind of reasoning. But that's the whole point. I think it is what they call a non-falsifiable hypothesis.
"Seriously-why not organize a "Jockstrap For Testicular Cancer Awareness" event and *ask* women to wear them."
Because women love crossdressing, they do it voluntarily. It wouldn't be quite the same as parading an extreme fetish kink rooted in hatred of men's sexuality on full display for the world and calling it a "good thing".
An exactly analogous display would be "Kick Susan B Anthony In The Cunt for Testicular Awareness" in which women are invited to assault the genitals of an effigy of a key figure related to women's equality and "progress".
"Or you could just go back to complaining that women organized for a cure for a disease they get instead of organizing for a disease men get."
Wow, ok, I guess male politicians should only protect males from crimes that happen to them. Robbery,murder,assault, yeah sure, we'll help you.
Rape? Uh, no. Sorry, solve your own problem.
By the way, I was responding to some of that nonsense yesterday but decided to take ScareCrow's message to heart and not raise the profile of the blog that took issue with this post. From what I can tell, that blog does not have a large audience. I also streamlined this post to avoid any distractions about what I intended to say.
Let's not lose sight of the fact that this post is something that few people outside of radical feminism would even consider disagreeing with. I am astounded, and bemused, that it is at all controversial. The fact that it is controversial tells us much about the person(s) it offended, none of it good.
At issue is a cultural war: the militant feminist blogs are content to paint hetero white young men as beneficiaries of a strange "rape culture" that was manufactured by militant feminists out of whole cloth. The various explanations about that "culture" insist that rape and violence against women and misogyny have been "normalized" among men, and especially that class of men.
I, on the other hand, am convinced that this broad brush stereotype is not just tremendously unfair to a class of citizens that is anything but a monolith but that such characterization borders on pathology. Moreover, I am convinced that my view is shared by the vast majority of Americans. Our opposition's view is laughable to intelligent men and women who are not drunk on Women's Studies courses.
I see no benefit to debating puerile, self-righteous rants on blogs that do not have large followings, are not written especially well, that aren't in any sense clever, and that shine no light whatsoever on issues of interest to our readers.
But I am gratified that our message is offending extremists because if my opponent likes me, I'm not doing my job.
I am also bemused because the fiercest attacks this blog has ever sustained came from a piece attacking us on The Spearhead, of all places. Our worst, most annoying troll was an extremist MRA. I've been taken to task for including "women" in the subtitle of this blog, and for having the audacity to defend presumptively innocent women accused of statutory rape with the same ferocity I defend men. A major MRA took offense at what is probably my most important post in the past year, because it dared to take both feminists and MRAs to task -- http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2010/12/elephant-in-room-that-feminists-and.html
When you're attacked by both extremes, you can be pretty sure you're somewhere in the middle.
"A major MRA took offense at what is probably my most important post in the past year, because it dared to take both feminists and MRAs to task -- http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2010/12/elephant-in-room-that-feminists-and.html
When you're attacked by both extremes, you can be pretty sure you're somewhere in the middle."
Soldier on,bro. You're doing a good thing here and most of us can see it.
do you guys really not know that both women and men get breast cancer, yes it's more likely for women to get it, but its not a womens health issue its a health issue period.
also to the difference between prostate and breast cancer awareness, both are thought of as very private, and embarrassing things due to their location; to has taken 30 years of hard work to bring breast cancer awareness to the level it is at now, there are many diseases and disorders that are very dangerous and require a lot more awareness that don't get to be mentioned on popular tv shows like family guy (all be it in a negative and vaguely homophobic view)
so the way I see it men doing something shocking to grab people attention and raise awareness about a disease everyone can get, does not show how rape culture is false. in fact it kinda scares me a bit when people seriously claim that they have had enough of people advocating for a disease because it mainly affects woman, and that men only health issues are much more important.
just because your disease or disorder has less awareness does not mean it is less important to the general public, it just means you need a few more years of hard work to get it more recognized; on the same note, just because some other disease is more advocated for then yours is does not mean people need to stop advocating for it; they have at least 20 years on you, in 20 years time of hard work your issue might be as advocated for as Breast cancer, maybe there will be ladies wearing jock straps, maybe your disease will be cured.
my point is you ca not demand that 30 years worth of hard earned recognition be handed to your disease just because it is a male only disease. either work for it or stop using the efforts of others as evidence that rape doesn't happen as often.
also don't post about it if your not able do defend your augment with anything except you care more about False rape.
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