As a political progressive i admit most people on the left dont spend anywhere near as much time and concern on men's issues, and others are on the wrong side of things.
But this just goes to show that the most extreme cases bring forth the attention of the left and will hopefully get people thinking a bit more about men being abused. I don't want to see more excessively abusive commercials/television shows that are meant to be comedic but once in a while something like this could theoretically be a good thing to knock some sense into people.
ZetaMale, I think fair-minded people on the left see through the crap. Alan Dershowitz has spoken more forcibly about FRAs than almost anyone. And it was the right (Bob Dole, et al) who pushed through F.R.Evid. 413, the most draconian law on the books to hurt men and boys accused of rape. Moreover, the left doesn't believe boys who are statutorily raped "wanted" it. So, the "left-right" demarcation isn't as clear-cut as we'd like it to be.
I thank you for seeing what this commercial really is. Frankly, I was surprised that I didn't get more support about this commercial from others. I thought it was among the most blatant things I've seen lately. Some of our readers thought I was overreacting or had strayed too far from false rape issues (some readers insist I not wander out of my back yard). I'd love to see the men's movement get united once in a while on obvious issues and have all of us post a note to our readers -- "write to Pepsi to protest this." My suspicion is that if we all worked together, it would get a reaction.
The Safe Auto Insurance ad, which ran regionally during the Superbowl, really deserves some attention. It is by far the worst of the violent ads, featuring a young man being kicked in the genitals by man, woman, and child.
I admit there needs to be a line drawn where humor becomes misandry. I would say read my article "stopping the laughter-some of the time" but i am in the process of revamping old stuff that was so disgustingly written i am ashamed to have posted it so wait a few days :P
I am also working on an article (inspired by this commercial) trying to differ between when it is physical comedy and abuse/men in pain that is meant to be funny.
Nicolas, you are exactly right. That commercial is the most insane piece of literal male bashing I've ever seen. Thanks for pointing it out. It would be bad enough to keep slapping someone in the face, but my guess is that repeated blows to the testicles of that nature could cause permanent damage. Just sick that anyone finds that "funny."
ZetaMale, nothing over there is disgustingly written.
Let me add this: when I take "offense" at these ads, or at a thousand other gender double standards, my primary beef is often with the double standard. I would not want to become so hypersensitive as certain feminists that I can't appreciate humor. For the sake of fundamental fairness, they can't have it both ways, and if they want to insist that women be treated a certain way, men should be afforded the same respect.
I also think that these things do add up and create a world where male bashing is acceptable, and where the notion of male disposability is fortified and celebrated. When we are inundated with a sitcom after sitcom after sitcom of stupid, selfish, oafish males – with their put upon, brilliantly wise wives -- THAT has to start adding up.
When we are confronted with ad after ad after ad men being the brunt of jokes -- even physical "hit-in-the-balls" humor -- while women are decidedly off-limits, THAT has to start to add up.
Each little piece, by itself, wouldn't be so bad. But when each piece is added to the puzzle, it creates a giant picture of unmistakable misandry.
Don't we think our sons and daughters are noticing "it's OK to kick daddy in the nuts, but mommy must never be touched?" Personally, I don't think anything escapes their notice beyond a certain age.
Every civilized society must strive to (1) eradicate heinous crimes by punishing the offenders, and (2) insure that the innocent aren't punished along with the offenders. Too often, the second half of that balance is omitted from the public discourse. Accusations of serious criminality, especially murder and sexual wrongdoing, too often are their own convictions in the high court of public opinion because the stigma is so severe. It is our mission to raise awareness about the injustices suffered by persons wrongly accused of serious criminality. Protecting the innocent from unjust harm as a result of a wrongful accusation is a hallmark of a civilized society.
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As a political progressive i admit most people on the left dont spend anywhere near as much time and concern on men's issues, and others are on the wrong side of things.
But this just goes to show that the most extreme cases bring forth the attention of the left and will hopefully get people thinking a bit more about men being abused. I don't want to see more excessively abusive commercials/television shows that are meant to be comedic but once in a while something like this could theoretically be a good thing to knock some sense into people.
ZetaMale, I think fair-minded people on the left see through the crap. Alan Dershowitz has spoken more forcibly about FRAs than almost anyone. And it was the right (Bob Dole, et al) who pushed through F.R.Evid. 413, the most draconian law on the books to hurt men and boys accused of rape. Moreover, the left doesn't believe boys who are statutorily raped "wanted" it. So, the "left-right" demarcation isn't as clear-cut as we'd like it to be.
I thank you for seeing what this commercial really is. Frankly, I was surprised that I didn't get more support about this commercial from others. I thought it was among the most blatant things I've seen lately. Some of our readers thought I was overreacting or had strayed too far from false rape issues (some readers insist I not wander out of my back yard). I'd love to see the men's movement get united once in a while on obvious issues and have all of us post a note to our readers -- "write to Pepsi to protest this." My suspicion is that if we all worked together, it would get a reaction.
The Safe Auto Insurance ad, which ran regionally during the Superbowl, really deserves some attention. It is by far the worst of the violent ads, featuring a young man being kicked in the genitals by man, woman, and child.
The company displays the ad on its home page:
http://www.safeauto.com/
Archivist, do what you like its your blog.
I admit there needs to be a line drawn where humor becomes misandry. I would say read my article "stopping the laughter-some of the time" but i am in the process of revamping old stuff that was so disgustingly written i am ashamed to have posted it so wait a few days :P
I am also working on an article (inspired by this commercial) trying to differ between when it is physical comedy and abuse/men in pain that is meant to be funny.
Nicolas, you are exactly right. That commercial is the most insane piece of literal male bashing I've ever seen. Thanks for pointing it out. It would be bad enough to keep slapping someone in the face, but my guess is that repeated blows to the testicles of that nature could cause permanent damage. Just sick that anyone finds that "funny."
ZetaMale, nothing over there is disgustingly written.
Let me add this: when I take "offense" at these ads, or at a thousand other gender double standards, my primary beef is often with the double standard. I would not want to become so hypersensitive as certain feminists that I can't appreciate humor. For the sake of fundamental fairness, they can't have it both ways, and if they want to insist that women be treated a certain way, men should be afforded the same respect.
I also think that these things do add up and create a world where male bashing is acceptable, and where the notion of male disposability is fortified and celebrated. When we are inundated with a sitcom after sitcom after sitcom of stupid, selfish, oafish males – with their put upon, brilliantly wise wives -- THAT has to start adding up.
When we are confronted with ad after ad after ad men being the brunt of jokes -- even physical "hit-in-the-balls" humor -- while women are decidedly off-limits, THAT has to start to add up.
Each little piece, by itself, wouldn't be so bad. But when each piece is added to the puzzle, it creates a giant picture of unmistakable misandry.
Don't we think our sons and daughters are noticing "it's OK to kick daddy in the nuts, but mommy must never be touched?" Personally, I don't think anything escapes their notice beyond a certain age.
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