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Tuesday, February 15, 2011

The Josh Lueke Sex Crime Affair


See here: http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2011/11/pitcher-josh-lueke-paid-his-debt-to.html
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21 comments:

randian said...

False imprisonment is a sex crime? That's rather odd. The circumstances of the act suggest there was no rape: the woman woke up, experienced after-drinking regret, and charged rape to expiate that regret.

Feb 15, 2011 1:56:00 AM
Anonymous said...

Dartmouth College sexual assault fictitious, no false report charges to be filed
Submitted by anthony on Mon, 2011-02-14 20:29.
Story here. Excerpt:

'HANOVER – No one tried to rape a Dartmouth College student in her dormitory room, a police investigation concluded.

Police Chief Nicholas Giaccone, asked if anyone is going to be charged with filing a false police report, said, "Not at this time." He would not release the name of the individual who filed the report but said it was a Dartmouth College student.

For several days, police investigated the report of the alleged sexual assault that was said to have happened about 10:25 p.m. on Sunday when a man entered a student's room, pushed her down and removed her pants. The assailant reportedly fled after the woman kicked and screamed.'.

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Dartmouth+College+sexual+assault+fictitious&articleId=29b69e37-275d-4685-a093-5a569a6e526b

http://news.mensactivism.org/node/16319

Feb 15, 2011 2:38:00 AM
Anonymous said...

New law requires colleges to teach about sexual assault
Submitted by anthony on Mon, 2011-02-14 20:27.
Article here. Excerpt:

'House Bill 101, passed in November, requires schools, among other things, to establish a program that includes information on drug- and alcohol-fueled sexual violence; medical treatment and evidence collection; the possibility of pregnancy; and sexually transmitted diseases.
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The National Sexual Violence Research Center in Enola, northwest of Harrisburg, estimates 20 percent to 25 percent of women are victims of forced sex during their time in college, and 90 percent or more of those victims do not report the assault.
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Robert Morris University has a program called CURE -- College and University Rape Education -- aimed at first-year students, which addresses topics such as date-rape drugs and how to report an assault.'.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/pittsburgh/s_722732.html

http://news.mensactivism.org/node/16318

Feb 15, 2011 2:39:00 AM
Anonymous said...

Do Female Sex Offenders Receive a Lighter Punishment Compared to Males?
Submitted by anthony on Mon, 2011-02-14 06:47.
Article here. Excerpt:

'Sentencing for an Okaloosa sex offender has sparked a lot of discussion. 31-year old Michelle Kemp had sex with a 15-year-old boy but she will not be going to prison. The lawyers on both sides of the case insist, when it comes to sex crimes, the judicial system is not sexist.

Michelle Kemp was arrested back in August 2009 for having sex with a 15-year-old. The boy's family decided not to press charges if the relationship stopped-- but it didn’t. In December, Kemp drove more than 100 miles from her home in Crestview to pick the boy up at a drug treatment center in Bay County, where the two had sex again.
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It was a very different case for Tim McGarry. The former Thomas Drive Fire Chief is serving a 40-year sentence for having sex with underage girls. The disparity in treatment makes some wonder if the judicial system is sexist when it comes to sex crimes.

District 1 Chief Assistant State Attorney Bill Bishop says no.

"We don't make any distinction one way or another whether or not someone who commits a sexual offense is a male or a female. We make our decisions based on the evidence we have available and the witnesses we have available to prosecute" Bishop says.'.

http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/114682004.html

http://news.mensactivism.org/node/16316

Feb 15, 2011 2:42:00 AM
Jay Hammers said...

Damn right.

People today are so callous and uncaring, so willing to throw someone else under the bus for any reason.

Especially when that person has a penis.

Feb 15, 2011 8:44:00 AM
Christopher said...

randian said...
False imprisonment is a sex crime? That's rather odd. The circumstances of the act suggest there was no rape: the woman woke up, experienced after-drinking regret, and charged rape to expiate that regret.

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A classic case of what I refer to as 'fucker's remorse'. When a man/woman of any age feels guilty about a sexual encounter they had with someone, then they try to yell and scream and get the person arrested/reviled.

Feb 15, 2011 9:30:00 AM
slwerner said...
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Feb 15, 2011 12:21:00 PM
slwerner said...

Christopher - "A classic case of what I refer to as 'fucker's remorse'. When a man/woman of any age feels guilty about a sexual encounter they had with someone, then they try to yell and scream and get the person arrested/reviled."

Two things wrong here. First, while a great many people have had some sort of such remorse, only a relative handful of women ever call it rape, and only a fraction of those ever report their remorse-turned-rape. And, of course far, far, far fewer men ever do either than do women.

Secondly, just as you've been doing over on The Spearhead, you try to come off as being "even-handed" in an attempt to make yourself seem more credible. Yet, what you really seem to be out to do is to drag men, as a class, down by insinuating that whatever women may be doing that is wrong, men are also just as guilty.

No! In regards to the issue of FRA’s woman are far and away the more culpable (as a group). While some men have also tried to use FRA’s for their own advantages, they are far fewer in number. Using the “Cry Rape Card” has historically been a women-only tactic.

Fortunately, you already “blown” your credibility here via your previous suggestions that A) woman are being intimidated into recantations of rape claims, and B) the cause for “real” rapes comes down to men’s libido’s.

Thus, no one here need be deceived by your “conciliatory” rhetoric of “allowing” that some women may be acting badly, “but men…”.

Feb 15, 2011 12:21:00 PM
zarko said...

There is a reason Seattle is last in the AL and one of the few teams to not win a world series (longest to never have won it?).

Being a criminal is not a deterrent for most teams. Alan Iverson was drafted while in prison by the 76ers, Dino Ciccarelli and Grant Balfour missed games when they were in prison, and Rafael Furcal went to prison for a month after the playoffs a few years ago.

Good teams understand that after someone did their time, they should be rehabilitated.

Judge Landis had the same opinion, and yes, he was an unreasonable hardass. He banned Buck Weaver even when Weaver didn't participate in the black sox scandal, and he banned Shoeless Joe even though Joe could barely read and most certainly had no idea what was going on with the fix. He banned those guys even when the criminal trial found them innocent, because they defiled the sanctity of the game, not because of mistakes OFF the field.

Feb 15, 2011 5:21:00 PM
Archivist said...

Zarko, I know this question is off-topic, but should Pete Rose be allowed in the Hall of Fame?

Feb 15, 2011 7:50:00 PM
Nick S said...

Christopher, I thought you were banned.

"A classic case of what I refer to as 'fucker's remorse'. When a man/woman of any age feels guilty about a sexual encounter they had with someone, then they try to yell and scream and get the person arrested/reviled."

Sure, men are just as likely as women to respond to regretted sex or cover up an affair by crying rape, or presumably having the woman arrested on some other (ill-defined) heinous charge. It happens all the time. Wife/girlfriend comes home to find you in bed with another woman. The first, most instinctive response is, "ah, honey, it's not what it looks like. She forced herself on me! I didn't want to do it!". For added effect, I usually break down with a few (crocodile) tears, and try to look sweet and vulnerable.

Christopher, I am concerned your presence here is depriving a village of its resident idiot.

Feb 15, 2011 10:56:00 PM
Nick S said...

"Secondly, just as you've been doing over on The Spearhead, you try to come off as being "even-handed" in an attempt to make yourself seem more credible. Yet, what you really seem to be out to do is to drag men, as a class, down by insinuating that whatever women may be doing that is wrong, men are also just as guilty." - Slwerner

He/she has also been posting the usual nonsense on Spearhead about how the vast majority of feminists don't support any of the unfair treatment that is directed at men, rather it is only a handful of extremists who do. A classic 'earnest' concern troll.

Feb 15, 2011 11:01:00 PM
zarko said...

Pierce: in my opinion, yes. I just went on wikipedia to see what his stats are, and some i didn't even know: a switch hitter, is the all-time Major League leader in hits (4,256), games played (3,562), at-bats (14,053) and outs (10,328).[1] He won three World Series rings, three batting titles, one Most Valuable Player Award, two Gold Gloves, the Rookie of the Year Award, and made 17 All-Star appearances at an unequaled five different positions (2B, LF, RF, 3B & 1B).

All of this stuff is virtually insane and almost untouchable.

What he did was stupid, but he bet ON the reds, not against it, which is quite important. I think he should make it based upon what he did. What he did was far less serious than Ciccotte and the rest of the black sox, minus weaver and shoeless joe.

Feb 15, 2011 11:11:00 PM
Archivist said...

Zarko, I agree. Enough is enough --let him in!

Feb 16, 2011 12:21:00 AM
Anonymous said...

Just for the record, False Imprisonment IS a registerable sex offense, even if it didn't involve sex at all.

A guy who abandoned a girl in a cul de sac is now a registered sex offender.

Two male teens who refused to let another out of the car until a drug debt was paid are now registered sex offenders, although the "crime" had nothing to do with sex.

Feb 16, 2011 10:34:00 AM
Christopher said...

slwerner said...
Secondly, just as you've been doing over on The Spearhead, you try to come off as being "even-handed" in an attempt to make yourself seem more credible. Yet, what you really seem to be out to do is to drag men, as a class, down by insinuating that whatever women may be doing that is wrong, men are also just as guilty.

_____________________

Excuse me, but I am really incredulous as to where you are getting that from, from my statements?

The only thing I have said on a regular basis on The Spearhead (yes, I do post there) is that women are equal to men AND that the Spearhead is a bastion of misogyny.

That means that women are mentally equal to men as a whole. Physically? Not always on a case by case basis, but as a whole, yes, they are.
Same thing goes in the inverse.

I have come to realize after 30 years on this planet that women are NOT anymore honest than men, and men are NOT anymore honest than women.

It is a small number of men (like the proud misogynists over on The Spearhead) who give all men a bad name.
Same thing for the small number of radical feminists (better called Femnazis) who give all women a bad name.
I just admit those facts, which a lot of men don't like to admit those facts.

Personally, I am for DOUBTING a rape accusation (save if there is severe physical injury) whether it is a woman OR A MAN making the accusations.

Feb 16, 2011 12:43:00 PM
Nick S said...

Christopher, once again you are trying to make yourself appear fair and even-handed by pretending that wherever women are doing anything wrong, men are always just as bad.

It is nonsense to pretend that there is some kind of equivalence between woman-bashing on a few websites and male-bashing more generally in society. While misogyny is a fairly marginal, stigmatized and unpopular fringe position, feminist male-bashing is somewhat more mainstream and socially acceptable. Moreover, man=haters have clearly gained far more influence in society and in the law and public policy than misogynists could dream of having.

To be sure, there are pockets of misogyny around, especially on the fringes of the manosphere. But it is a fart in a hailstorm compared to the rampant male-bashing in our culture that has abounded for many years now. To hear you tell it though, you would think that men have been just as content over the past few decades to let extreme woman-haters dictate the agenda as women have been passive or supportive in the face of radical feminist onslaughts.

"I just admit those facts, which a lot of men don't like to admit those facts."

Ah, note the gratuitous attack on "a lot of men", based not on "facts" (you provide none), but on your mere assertion of a worldview that is hardly self-evident at all.

Christopher/Christine, you have already given yourself away. So just give it a rest.

Feb 17, 2011 1:17:00 AM
Nick S said...

"Personally, I am for DOUBTING a rape accusation (save if there is severe physical injury) whether it is a woman OR A MAN making the accusations."

Ah, more of this nonsense. It is exceedingly rare for men to make a false allegation of rape. 'Crying rape' is largely a woman-only tactic.

This is not to deny that men sometimes make false allegations against women over other matters (like say, paternity fraud or financial fraud), usually within the context of a bitter relationship breakdown. But even then, this is less of a danger as women are seldom arrested, tried and possibly convicted based largely or solely on a man's word in a "he said, she said" case.

Feb 17, 2011 5:35:00 AM
LT said...

Perhaps I shouldn't be shocked that nobody's mentioned it yet, but... you're bringing up Landis? The man was an unrepentant racist.

He was about as hard-assed as a person could be - I imagine the colloquial term would be "douchebag - and managed to bring some "law and order" to a poorly governed and regulated sport but that's about it.

I'll bet there were other examples of sports players being given a second chance - heck, Vick was a cause celebre in and of himself last year.

Feb 25, 2011 9:46:00 AM
Anonymous said...

Interesting topic, no idea how I stumbled on this, but I feel moved to comment, a few thoughts have popped into my head.

Statistically false reports of rape happen no more often than any other crime. We hear about these rare cases and thus feel they happen "all the time".

In most states, if a person is under the influence of alcohol they can no longer give legal consent to sexual activity. Thus having sex with someone who is drunk comes with inherent risk of perpetrating a sexual assault. Call it what you want, remorse, regret, the law calls it rape.

The last thought I had was I would argue any day rape is a far more serious crime than armed robbery. It seems to me rape, especially when alcohol or drugs are involved, renders a person completely immobile and unable to make sound decision, taking from them their innate right to power and control of their decision making.

Just some thoughts.

Apr 26, 2011 5:03:00 PM
Archivist said...

"Statistically false reports of rape happen no more often than any other crime. We hear about these rare cases and thus feel they happen "all the time"."

Wrong. Debunked here a thousand times. Sorry. We are familiar with every stat out there on this subject. You are woefully ill-informed.

Moeover, being drunk, in and of itself, doesn't negate legal consent in any state. How drunk was she? More important, would a reasonable person in his shoes know?

And your puerile comparison between armed robbery and rape is telling. Ever have a loaded gun pointed at you? That you think a cocked penis is more lethal is frightening.

Spend a month or two reading this blog and educating yourself before you comment here again. Thanks for trolling.

Just a few thoughts.

Apr 26, 2011 5:32:00 PM

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