But here's one to top all the others. A Virginia lawmaker is floating the most barbaric idea possible for treating his state's convicted sex offenders: physical castration -- the "surgical" removal of the testicles.
Republican State Sen. Emmett Hanger has introduced a bill that would have state agencies study whether Virginia should start castrating sex offenders instead of confining them to treatment programs after they get out of jail. In 2007, then-Gov. Timothy Kaine vetoed a similar bill.
Hanger's critics call the idea barbaric, because that's what it is, but Hanger said it would save the state money and could provide a "cure." See here.
Virginia wouldn't be alone in the testicle mutilation business. While eight other states allow for some form of castration for sex offenders, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures, only Louisiana and Texas (of course!) allow for physical castration. In contrast, chemical castration through medications merely reduce testosterone, which fuels a man's sex drive. See here.
It does not appear that a court has definitively decided whether the obviously cruel and unusual punishment of surgical castration runs afoul of the Eighth Amendment's ban on cruel and unusual punishments.
Mary Devoy, founder of Reform Sex Offender Laws of Virginia, called Hanger's proposal "a great bill with one shocking flaw." Can you guess? "When abuse and mutilation of a human being is presented as an acceptable alternative to responsible treatment and housing for those deemed as sexually violent predators there exists a fault of reason." See here.
Exactly, Ms. Devoy.
We see another fundamental problem with Sen. Hanger's bill that should permanently relegate it to the wastepaper bin: In all of Senator Hanger's pronouncements about "cures" and about saving the state money, has he given even a passing thought to the possibility that after he allows a man's balls to be cut off, it might turn out that the man was actually innocent?
The girl might recant; alibi witnesses might come forward; exculpatory evidence might surface. And then what do we do?
Glue them back on?
Mutter "Sorry about that!"?
Somehow, I doubt that "I'm sorry" will cut it.
Does it sound far-fetched that a man convicted of a sex offense might just turn out to be innocent? Then you haven't been reading this blog for long, have you? And you've obviously never heard of the Innocence Project. Such cases are not uncommon.
While innumerable people have pondered in good faith the possible ways to cure and to control sex offenders, when a proposal comes along with a "solution" this cruel, this permanent, it smacks less of "cure" than of sadistic punishment.
It is ironic that Sen. Hanger's Web site touts his Christian background: "I try to guide my decisions based on biblical instruction including the 10 commandments and I believe strongly that our form of representative democracy cannot survive, at least in a manner that is efficient and affordable, unless the majority of our citizens are 'Godly' people and are willing and capable of assuming their role as responsible citizens in a free society." See here. Unfortunately, Sen. Hanger seems to have skipped over the teachings of the most famous wrongly convicted man in history. Somehow, I can't imagine Christ calling for a sex offender's testicles to be cut off.
In Patrick Kennedy v. Louisiana, 2008 U.S. LEXIS 5262 (June 25, 2008), the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the death penalty is unconstitional for cases of child rape. Among other things, the court recognized that "the problem of unreliable, induced, and even imagined child testimony" might just send an innocent man to his death. The Court explained: "Studies conclude that children are highly susceptible to suggestive questioning techniques like repetition, guided imagery, and selective reinforcement. . . . . See Ceci & Friedman, The Suggestibility of Children: Scientific Research and Legal Implications, 86 Cornell L. Rev. 33, 47 (2000) (there is "strong evidence that children, especially young children, are suggestible to a significant degree--even on abuse-related questions"); Gross, Jacoby, Matheson, Montgomery, & Patil, Exonerations in the United States 1989 Through 2003, 95 J. Crim. L. & C. 523, 539 (2005) (discussing allegations of abuse at the Little Rascals Day Care Center); see also Quas, Davis, Goodman, & Myers, Repeated Questions, Deception, and Children's True and False Reports of Body Touch, 12 Child Maltreatment 60, 61-66 (2007) (finding that 4- to 7-year-olds "were able to maintain [a] lie about body touch fairly effectively when asked repeated, direct questions during a mock forensic interview").
"Similar criticisms pertain to other cases involving child witnesses; but child rape cases present heightened concerns because the central narrative and account of the crime often comes from the child herself. She and the accused are, in most instances, the only ones present when the crime was committed. See Pennsylvania v. Ritchie, 480 U.S. 39, 60, 107 S. Ct. 989, 94 L. Ed. 2d 40 (1987). Cf. Goodman, Testifying in Criminal Court, at 118."
Lopping off a man's balls isn't in the same class as sentencing him to death, but it isn't as far removed as proponents of this heartless, spiteful bill probably think. If the man was wrongly convicted, Sen. Hanger's awful, permanent "cure" can't be undone.
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I leave you with a story, related by the late Michael Musmanno, the flamboyant and brilliant Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice. In his dissenting opinion in Washington Park, Inc. Appeal, 425 Pa. 349 (1967), Justice Musmanno related the following, about one of the most famous injustices ever perpetrated by American courts:
"Nicola Sacco and Bartolomeo Vanzetti, two workingmen in Massachusetts, were sentenced to death after a trial admittedly saturated with error. As one of the attorneys in the case I filed a petition for certiorari in the Supreme Court of the United States. The date of execution was set for August 22, 1927. The Supreme Court was not to meet until the following October. A stay of execution was imperative if the Supreme Court was to pass on living litigation. I applied to the Chief Justice and two Associate Justices of the Supreme Court, all of whom refused to grant the stay. I made application to the Governor of Massachusetts, he refused the stay. I turned to the President of the United States because by this time the Sacco-Vanzetti case had taken on international significance and the heads of many governments had indicated they feared a great injustice would result if the two doomed workingmen went to the electric chair with half of the world believing them innocent. The President declined to intervene.
"On August 22, 1927, the men, who were undoubtedly innocent, were executed. Two months later the Supreme Court met and one of the first items of its business was consideration of the pending petition for writ of certiorari, the one I had filed. The Court was formally advised that the petition was now moot because Sacco and Vanzetti were dead."
24 comments:
I must be a sadist coming to this blog. Every day you get me angrier and angrier with your stories. This is disgusting.
Ok, so there's legislation on the books in multiple states allowing for castration, chemical or otherwise.
Has castration actually happened, so that it could be challenged in court?
WTF, ive been reading and commenting on false rape society for over a year, and have rarely seen a sex offender article here.
Over the last week or so, it seems like every 3rd or 4rth article is about sex offenders???
Has the focus of false rape society changed??
Anon at 4:32: The fact that a man was convicted doesn't mean he wasn't falsely accused or wrongly convicted.
The False Rape Society is pointing out the unusual cruelty a MAN might face if he were wrongfully convicted of a crime.
And, as the article here points out, the innocence project finds many such cases.
Also, as this article points out, there is no way to "undo" the damage to a wrongfully convicted MAN if he is "castrated".
One thing the article FAILS to point out are FEMALE PERPETRATORS. They are rare - but it does happen - more so in cases of statutory rape.
For that, I am disappointed. There is no way to cut a woman's balls off.
This is not only a damaging law - it is a double standard - coming from your feminist machine that wants "equality".
The article is correct - this form of punishment is about vengeance, spite and sadism - not justice.
"Somehow, I can't imagine Christ calling for a sex offender's testicles to be cut off."
Bingo. Excellent remark sir.
speechless...
Emmett Hanger would have a lot of pain if he was falsely accused of rape.
It is not necessarily a pain I would spare him.
Great, Snark!
Maybe we should do a video with someone reading Catherine Comins' quote:
Comins argues that men who are unjustly accused can sometimes gain from the experience. "They have a lot of pain, but it is not a pain that I would necessarily have spared them. I think it ideally initiates a process of self-exploration. 'How do I see women?' 'If I didn't violate her, could I have?' 'Do I have the potential to do to her what they say I did?' Those are good questions."
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101910603-157165,00.html#ixzz1CBZUq7rP
Visually, we'd be showing innocent men being lynched for rapes they didn't commit, and innocent men lying on tables waiting to have their balls lopped off.
Hmm. Cut the balls off male sex offenders.
What then are we to do with female sex offenders? Conduct forced mastectomies? Conduct mandatory hysterectomies, replete with removal of the offending ovaries?
Perhaps women would be less likely to support monstrosities such as this were they subjected to equivalent levels of hostility to their sexuality and sexual organs.
What is it about the United States that it is the only country that routinely kills and mutilates men on the merest suggestion that they may have harmed a woman? No other country is so advanced down this road.
I am fast coming to the conclusion that it has become a fundamentalist feminist state, dangerous to the welfare of intelligent men everywhere. If American men don't get their heads in order and start showing each other the respect they deserve, other countries may be forced to ban all Americans and their perverse influence from passing their borders.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350776/Council-chief-Byron-Davies-cleared-raping-drunk-woman-met-bar.html
must read
and a counterpoint...
(now to get legal aid in separation proceedings in the Uk there MUST be allegations of DV or sexual abuse)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350761/Women-entitled-council-house-partner-shouts.html
For that, I am disappointed. There is no way to cut a woman's balls off.
You can have her ovaries removed. That would undoubtedly provoke screams of rage from the usual suspects. The irony would be lost on them.
One way to sabotage this effort is to insert provisions in the relevant bills that apply to women. No legislator would vote for it with such a poison pill attached.
We think we might be right up your alley...
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American girls suck!
"Has castration actually happened, so that it could be challenged in court?"
Absolutely. Chemical castrations are downright common in certain parts of the country. It is supposed to be reversible,but I have heard the castration drugs can give people testicular cancer. I doubt that's reversible. In Texas, I really doubt it usually goes as far as cutting a sex offender's balls off. Knowing what I know about Texas, the "sex offender" is probably killed prior to trial in many instances.
"I must be a sadist coming to this blog."
I believe you mean "masochist". A masochist is a person who enjoys being in pain or being humiliated. A sadist enjoys inflicting pain or humiliation on others.
Christopher,
Before we go any further, you need to define the age you are meaning when you say children please.
There is another point - and I noticed this in College.
These women - consider themselves so "liberated" and so "modern"...
Yet - they seem to be practicing "mid-evil-ism".
things that make you go hmmm...
How about we cut out the tongues of false rape accusers? It wouldn't stop her from communicating, but at least the next time she lies people might wonder why her tongue is missing.
"If prostitution/sex with a child was legal, many of these people could sate their impulses and we wouldn't have to worry about them forcing other people into sexual interactions."
And if I had a machine that electrocute someone over the internet, I could sate the impulse I'm having right now. Because you need to stop posting.
How'd I know it'd be a Republican proposing this... and how'd I know the only states with allowances for physical castration'd be Republican and in the Deep South?
Such a shame. One side wants to give every allowance to women and the other wants to take 'em away from men.
Christopher,
I deleted your post. We do not countenance sex with children here. Please peddle that crap somewhere else.
Anon 7:50:00 pm,
You must have been reading my mind.
So Republican anti feminists are actually misandry too? I guess archivist has a point but its probably because men have an ego and listen to the woman as if they are going to "save the day" , masculist beware your anti-feminist gop senator may be somewhat feminist in disguise could you imagine if the senator proposed cutting off female body parts as they do in africa for female sex offender populations,
a sex offender can be a urinating in public(bushes too) women lied,
possession of a 17 year old who is not naked but modeling and the pose may suggest sexuality or not (recall movies with have non-sexual context with poses american beauty, brooke shields, etc)
Believe it or not many right-wing republicans will agree with the GOP senators comment.
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