Imagine if a group of boys, some of them nude, physically restrained several girls by sitting on them and then proceeded to slap them in the face with their genitalia.
How do you suppose such an incident would be handled?
Do you think the superintendent of the school where it occurred would say that "these things happen" and that "the incident might have been blown out of proportion"? Or that “girls won’t be personally damaged by this”? Or, “if the victims were so emotionally affected, then why has it taken so long for us to find out?” Or that because so many boys were involved, “I’m not going to crucify one kid for something others also did”?
The questions scarcely survive their statement. There is not a chance in hell that any superintendent would utter such things in that scenario and expect to keep his job for long. In fact, it isn't at all difficult to predict how that scenario would be handled: it would be treated as a grievous crisis almost as serious as murder. Angry parents would be screaming at school board meetings; intense investigations would ensue; suspensions would follow in quick order; there would be criminal and civil actions; the news media from numerous news outlets would be camped outside the school; solemn-tongued news reporters would describe it in grave tones as an unspeakable occurrence; women's groups would be in hysterical overdrive, demanding criminal charges against all the boys, and insisting that the persons who run the school be fired.
In short, it would be the typical overreaction that America has exhibited for the sexual assault of women since its earliest days. It is the kind of overreaction that prompted Theodore Roosevelt to declare -- in a State of the Union Address, no less -- that rape was a crime "worse than murder." Treating rape in this fashion, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg once explained, stems from a tradition "when a woman was regarded as as good as dead once she was raped," and such overreaction does "no kindness to women."
Now imagine if the victims in the scenario noted above were not girls but boys. How do you suppose such an incident would be handled?
We don't have to suppose. We know how it would be handled, because it actually happened. See the news story below. And it was treated seriously, but not with politicized hysterics or chivalrous overreaction. No one pretended it was an act on a par with the Kennedy assassination. No one pretended the victims were brutalized for life. In fact, the superintendent made statements similar to the ones quoted above. In short, the incident was handled honestly.
The story below illustrates how sexual assault is handled when it's not encrusted by eons of chivalry and feminist victim-mongering.
Schools Investigating Sexual ‘Hazing’ At Junior High
The saying goes “boys will be boys” but some student athletes at the Greensburg Junior High School may have taken their pranks too far.
The Greensburg Daily News learned that at some point early in the junior high basketball season, members of the boys’ team engaged in some locker room hijinks that escalated into inappropriate behavior.
Greensburg School Superintendent Tom Hunter and School Resource Officer Bruce Copple confirmed an investigation has been launched into an incident in which members of the basketball team allegedly physically restrained other team members while others sat on them, either clothed in undergarments or nude, and slapped the restrained players in the face with their genitalia.
Both Hunter and Copple conceded the incident likely took place before Christmas, but the corporation had only learned of the incident a few weeks ago after a staff member overheard a conversation and a student reluctantly came forward.
Although no formal complaint has been lodged with the corporation, Copple said an investigation was launched immediately and all the student athletes were summoned for a meeting with principal Dr. Rodney King, school athletic director David Strause and Copple.
“We met with every athlete and told them what would happen,” Copple said.
Hunter passed down the message to the students, he said, that this behavior would not be accepted.
“It’s locker room hijinks. It’s harassment. It’s hazing, but we’re not going to tolerate it. We made it clear this isn’t going to happen,” Hunter said.
Further incidents, he noted, would be met by a stiff punishment, including expulsion and a ban from ever participating in Greensburg athletics.
While the punishment for further incidents has been spelled out to the students, Copple said the administration has not closed the case on this.
“The book is wide open,” he said.
However, deciphering what happened and who is responsible has proved to be a tough task. He said “90 percent” of the things that have happened in the locker rooms are adolescent hijinks. However, this “extremely isolated incident” has been problematic because of the seemingly widespread nature of involvement, Copple said, and has proved personally trying for the long-time lawman. He noted in these instances, one wants a quick resolution and this incident seems to have no end in sight.
“I’m personally struggling with this because I can’t get that closure. This isn’t Johnny hit Susie. It’s not that simple. It’s big, not in the sense that it’s a widespread problem, but because so many kids knew about it, saw it, heard it or were involved with it,” Copple said.
Multiple stories and finger-pointing has bogged down the investigation, Hunter said, and Copple added much of the difficulty has come from cracking the code of adolescent silence in the face of such a serious situation.
“I can understand how a child, especially in the athletic realm, can struggle with this. They don’t want to tell on their friends or their teammates,” Copple said.
Students might fear retribution, he noted, for breaking that code. While no criminal charges are being sought, he said it could come to that, which would mean the student who told would have to reveal himself in open court if brought to testify.
Copple said he has spoken with a number of students and their parents and will continue to do so until he is satisfied with the outcome. However, he noted parents and students with information need to step forward to ensure the proper action is taken on the students perpetrating the alleged actions as well as proactive measures to prevent future ones.
Hunter said he was frustrated by that point. No one has filed a complaint, and while they will continue to work it as an internal matter, he said that would be necessary to take the investigation up a notch.
However, Hunter noted, these things happen in athletics and while he does not condone these actions at all, he feels the incident may be blown out of proportion because of the lingering silence.
“Boys won’t be personally damaged (by this),” he said. “If (the victims) were so emotionally affected, then why has it taken so long for us to find out?”
Until the matter is settled and both Copple and Hunter are satisfied, no disciplinary action will be taken against the potentially offending students. Hunter noted with the incident seemingly so widespread throughout the basketball program its hard to single anyone out.
“I’m not crucifying one kid for something others are doing,” Hunter said.
While the school works on the investigation, preventative measures have been put in place. Coaches have been informed, Copple said, and they are not to let any player out of their sight. As a former junior high principal, Hunter said he understands the nature of these adolescents and supervision must be a top priority for all staff at the school.
“When you are dealing with kids at this age you have to always watch them, but they always find a few moments to do something,” Hunter said.
Copple also feels somewhat distressed by the fact that students are staying silent. This year, he and junior high staff initiated a bully prevention program, which carries open door and zero tolerance policies. One of the main things for kids who feel like they are getting bullied or for those who witness the acts is to come forward and tell a school official.
“What we need, what any school needs if a student is being bullied, we need information,” Copple said. “It bothers me that somebody saw this and didn’t say ‘This is wrong,’ and didn’t step forward.”
Copple said any student or parent with information regarding the incident is welcome to contact himself or Dr. King at the junior high. His hope is to find closure and use the incident to ensure this type of situation never arises in the locker rooms or anywhere else within Greensburg schools.
“We can’t take away what has happened, but we are being proactive in the hope that you can make sure it doesn’t happen again,” Copple said.
Link: http://greensburgdailynews.com/local/x212455070/Schools-Investigating-Sexual-Hazing-At-Junior-High
Friday, January 7, 2011
News report illustrates America's overreaction to sexual assault
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When I read this, I expected you to make the point that it was unfair that the story was treated differently because boys were the victims. But I agree with the point you actually made. This is how sexual assault should be treated for everyone.
You have no fucking idea what women's lives are like after they are raped. To them, they're better off dead. Many are left pregnant with a child that is a daily reminder of the worst day of their life. So don't even try to act like you could possibly understand how this case should be handled. Kid's shouldn't just get a slap on the wrist for slapping their genitals in someone's face. They know they did something wrong and if they lived in any part of the real world, they would go to prison for this. You're a dumbass who's trying to pretend you know something that you have no idea about. Go to hell.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA,
Hilarious anon. Are you done with the shaming language? Cause that dog don't hunt.
But thanks for stopping by.
@Anon: your argument is confusing. First off, most people don't get pregnant by being slapped with a penis, especially not males. Secondly, you say they should go to prison because "they know they did something wrong." Can you explain that? Third, "the real world"? hahaha, seriously?
You say "you have no idea what women's lives are like after they're raped. To them, they're better off dead." I'm pretty sure he is aware of the idea, given that he quotes it in the article. This view doesn't represent their reality objectively, anyways. I like how you include the "To them" to demonstrate this point for me perfectly. Thanks. :)
Leave it up, Steve! We'll be quoting this one! I love it.
"To them, they're better off dead."
Go tell Justice Ginsburg. She agrees with me that men have historically overreacted to rape. Better yet, go tell the Scottsboro Boys.
And by the way, professor, no one here ever said rape isn't a serious issue.
"Kid's shouldn't just get a slap on the wrist for slapping their genitals in someone's face."
What would you recommend? A slap with a penis? You know, a dick for a dick?
When I get a comment like that, I know I am doing my job!
This post was refreshingly honest. It vividly illustrates how these cases would be treated without all the bullshit.
Glad Steve was HERE, else that post would have been zapped :)
Anon at 2:19: I could have just as easily zapped it myself. Just like I could have zapped the Nazi comment the other day. :)
The :) is sarcasm.
Rape hysteria "Empowered the Klu-Klux-Klan, Rape hysteria now "Empowers" the American gender / raunch community.
Yyyeahokay, while I DON'T agree with Anon @ 1:40 PM, I am concerned about what seems to be an underwhelming response by the school in this case.
Just because the boys are scared to come forward doesn't call into question the seriousness of what happened OR the effect it may have on them now and in the weeks/months to come.
Having worked with sexual abuse survivors of both genders, it is more often boys who suffer long-term effects due to the attitude that they should "shrug it off" or "take it like a man."
I'm not advocating hysteria and I agree with the point of the article that this kind of behavior against either gender should be treated equally. I just think more could be done.
Is this sexism against the boys by not taking it more seriously?
One of the toxic side-effects of living in our modern, so-called "enlightened" society is that we have experts and specialists ready to label the recipient of every wrong as a "victim." And if you keep telling someone he or she is a "victim" enough, they start to believe it, and they start to feel they've been victimized. The vast majority of the rape "victims" identified in the Koss Report didn't know they'd been raped (and most probably weren't), but thankfully they had Mary Koss (citing Eugene Kanin, BEFORE he became a nitwit with his false rape report) to tell them they were victims. Without her guidance, they might have gone their whole lives thinking they were fine.
While I fully appreciate that specialists are necessary to help people get over all sorts of problems, real and imagined, sexual assault isn't one size fits all. Not every sexual assault scars someone for life. To suggest that the girl who was victimized by the boy who failed to withdraw for five seconds after she said "stop" was scarred to the same extent as the victim of a brutal, life-threatening robbery is absurd and insults one's intelligence.
I agree with Naomi Wolf and Ruth Bader Ginsburg and a lot of other wise people. We need to stop treating rape as if it were a "different" kind of crime; stop pretending for the sake of political correctness that it is somehow worse than it really is; stop allowing the politicized purveyors of misandry to elevate rape as the principal sacrament in their Church of the Perpetual Victim. Rape is bad enough without attributing mystical experiences to it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345222/Ballet-teacher-spared-jail-abducting-boy.html
I'll never understand how people in this day and age can say "sports scholarship" with a straight face. It seems that schools historically try to look the other way when their prized sports team assholes show some indiscretion or fall behind academically.
Greensburg's response to this sick, lame crap was sensible. I do wish that the exact people could be found and discipline applied to them though. A good example would go a long way beyond the confines of that campus.
Disclosure: a lesser version of this almost happened to me, one on one. I wasn't enrolled in anything, just minding my own business in the locker room during (compulsory) gym class. I would not say I was damaged by the attempt. Fully executed, I still doubt it would have inherent significance, assuming the bastard didn't have an STD. I would be more worried about the rumor that would spread afterwards, the whole class knowing what I let happen.
I think if the boys were being sexually assaulted by girls in this manner it would have been treated differently.
I also think if this group had been all female, it would have been handled pretty much the same way.
I DO have a "fucking idea" of what a woman's life is like after they are raped.
Pretty much the same as a MAN'S life is like after HE has been raped.
In this day and age, I don't know of any raped woman who isn't down to the abortion parlor to rid herself of the reminder! You are talking about an innocent child,btw. Not that THAT matters, if they are a "reminder" they need to be rubbed out.
In a perfect Prison Planet it would be WONDERFUL to be able to seen anyone and everyone to prison who commits umbrage against you. I think we should be more like Singapore and send people to prison for chewing gum, but realistically - our nation has run itself into the poorhouse sending kids to prison.
Our nation is broke. That means the moola it will take to defend YOUR ass from foreign invaders no longer exists, and the men it takes to fight and die for your right to send them to prison are already in prison.
You haven't even BEGUN to see the "worst day of your life".
ulysees, yer implying you were raped in a locker room, how do we know you are not lying??
Was this a hostra type rape, or a duke like rape, cause we all know girls are gettin raped in bathrooms and gym lockers all over the country all the time.
"You have no fucking idea what women's lives are like after they are raped."
lol
"What would you recommend? A slap with a penis? You know, a dick for a dick?"
I just had to quote this, Archivist. Thanks for making my day.
Anonymous said @8:39:00 AM...
ulysees, yer implying you were raped in a locker room
Maybe you should read his comment again.
Anonymous said @1:40:00 PM...
You have no fucking idea what women's lives are like after they are raped.
Actually several contributors here are victims of rape. One of them is a board member with a rape crisis service who, in addition, helps train rape counsellors.
I know victims both of rape and of false allegations. It may interest you to know that the long term impact has very similar symptomology.
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