Thursday, January 13, 2011

Disorderly conduct

There's not much to this one, which appears to be a recap of the police records. Interesting that she's charged with disorderly conduct.  I have to wonder if that prevents it from being counted as  false rape claim?

A 38-year-old Rosemont woman was arrested at 2:10 p.m. Dec. 3 and charged with disorderly conduct after she made a false police report Oct. 12 about criminal sexual assault.

Link: http://triblocal.com/glenview/2010/12/09/dec-6-glenview-woman-arrested-for-false-report-and-more/

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

"I have to wonder if that prevents it from being introduced into the counts for statistics?"

I don't know if Illinois, Cook County, or Chicago counts false accusations, as some localities do, but there is no national tally. She might be charged with disorderly conduct because it is simply easier to prosecute.

E. Steven Berkimer said...

Anon,

I was thinking more in the way of, if they call it disorderly conduct, and not, filing a false report, then it doesn't get tallied in the statistics. This may be another way we see the stats on false accusations of rape/sexual assault, lower, as they aren't reported as such.

randian said...

Similar potential sentence, no sex crime stigma. Think of it as another example of the female sentencing discount

Anonymous said...

"This may be another way we see the stats on false accusations of rape/sexual assault, lower, as they aren't reported as such."

Specifically, which statistics are you referring?

slwerner said...

I would imagine that the reason that they charged her with disorderly conduct is that, unlike a false reporting misdemeanor, it would allow them to take her into custody if she were causing some sort of public commotion.

Actually, on second glance, the the news account does indicate that she was indeed arrested: "Rosemont woman was arrested"

If her original offense was making a false report, then she might also be charged with that as well (I know, I know - wishful thinking that police would ever "stack" charges against a woman the way they would against a man).

We aren't told just what the false report involved, but it would seem likely that whatever she was claiming was something incendiary enough that cops were concerned that she was going to start a fight or worse, so they felt it prudent to arrest her so as to remove her (the snarky MRA in me wants to quip: What? No man could be found to be arrested instead?) from the scene.

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E. Steven Berkimer said...

Anon 10:03,


The police to categorize arrests by crime type. Robbery, Murder, Sex Crime, etc., and those stats are reported to the DOJ. That's how the DOJ tallies their stats on crimes in the U.S. If they just mark this down as disorderly conduct, and not a false report of a rape, a sexual offense, then it won't be counted as such. So that 3% figure for false reports that the DOJ puts out, likely, is much higher, when you factor in the large amount of unfounded cases, of which at least a portion have to be false.

Those stats.

Anonymous said...

"If they just mark this down as disorderly conduct, and not a false report of a rape, a sexual offense, then it won't be counted as such."

No, in this particular case, she made a "police report Oct. 12 about criminal sexual assault" so that gets counted as a report of sexual assault by the police.

Those stats, the UCR as tallied by CJIS, do not count false reporting or disorderly conduct.

(While some localities do count unfounded cases of rape, the UCR has not for well over a decade.)

If the DOJ does publish a statistic that 3% of rape reports are false, you still aren't telling me which statistic that is, or specifically which statistic you were referring. I also doubt that number is based on the number of those charged with making a false report as you seem to imply.