The Guardian continues: "Campaigners strongly criticised the decision to prosecute the girl and said such cases put women off reporting rape." Lisa Longstaff, of Women Against Rape, said: "Every prosecution [of false rape claims] puts women who have been raped off reporting it." She added: "We ask the DPP, when over 90% of rapists go free, is prosecuting a 16-year-old justice?" See here. Ms. Longstaff said it was "awful" that this girl was prosecuted. See here.
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Down, down, down the rabbit hole we tumble. A teenage girl was convicted for lying about one of the most serious matters imaginable -- that a boy raped her -- yet, we are told, she should not be prosecuted. Women should be free to lie about rape without fear of prosecution in the interest of getting actual rape victims to come forward. (Presumably, Lisa Longstaff, quoted above, would not want a 15-year-old rapist to be let off with just a caution because of his tender age or for any other reason. She once said this: "It is pretty shocking that anyone is cautioned for rape." See here.)The campaign to stop prosecuting women who make false rape claims isn't new for Ms. Longstaff. She once called such efforts "a concerted witchhunt." See here. Yet, in case after case after case that we report here on this blog, false rape claimants typically are not prosecuted; and if they are, they are afforded the most lenient of punishments. It is often the case that the the men and boys they've falsely accused spend more time behind bars than they do. Ms. Longstaff is also on record as opposing anonymity for men accused, but not convicted, of rape. See here. But of course, she favors anonymity for women who make rape accusations. See here.
Let us examine the rationales posited by the Ms. Longstaff/the sexual grievance industry supporting the argument that this case should not have been prosecuted:
Women are not reporting because false rape claims are being prosecuted.
This would mean that we we can only combat one form of criminality, namely rape, by ignoring other serious criminality, namely lying that a male raped a female. We can only wage the "war on rape" by elevating the victimization of one group of our citizens, our daughters, over that of another, our sons. Our sons are just unfortunate but necessary collateral damage in the "more important" war on rape. In other words, we must not only tolerate but tacitly encourage women and girls to lie about rape with impunity as the price of encouraging women, in general, to come forward and report their rapes.
Such advocacy is not merely unjust, it is morally grotesque.
If anything more needs to be said about this premise, which is grounded in a sort of ugly feminist bloodlust --payback for the perceived past sins of the patriarchy -- it should be noted that it is not even accurate. Recent scholarship shows that the unnecessary gender politicization of rape renders it impossible to discern whether underreporting even exists, much less its extent. See, J. Fennel, Punishment by Another Name: The Inherent Overreaching in Sexually Dangerous Person Commitments, 35 N.E.J. on Crim. & Civ. Con. 37, 49-51 (2009).
If underreporting does exist, there is no evidence whatsoever to support the proposition that holding a liar accountable for her lies will significantly deter women from reporting legitimate rapes. The head of RAINN recently explained that women are not principally failing to report rape due to a fear of being disbelieved. They are principally not reporting because "they don't want their loved ones to know what happened; they're ashamed themselves; they just want to put it all behind them." See here. But why let facts get in the way of a good feminist victim narrative?
Over 90% of rapists go free.
This is dishonest in the extreme. Last year, the Stern Review in the UK said that claims such as this -- by rape advocates -- might actually put women off from reporting. Here is why:
In the UK, the Home Office, and politicians seeking to jack up rape convictions, have long cited the attrition rate for rape, which is the number of convictions as a percentage of number of reported crimes. That rate is 6%. But, the Home Office, and everyone, uses the conviction rate (the number of convictions secured against the number of persons brought to trial for that given offence) for all other crimes.
In fact, the conviction rate for rape is 58%.
The result of such dishonest advocacy has been to make it appear that law enforcement is terribly, and uniquely, ineffective when it comes to rape.
Please re-read that and make sure you understand it: the feminists who dominate the public discourse about rape in the UK have long insisted that only 6% of "rapists" are convicted, as opposed to the correct figure: 58%. Stern Review, see page 45. Rape is the only crime judged by the attrition rate. All others – murder, assault, robbery, and so on – are assessed by their conviction rates. That is dishonesty of Biblical proportions.
And -- pay attention to this -- the Stern Review noted that use of the attrition rate instead of the conviction rate "may well have discouraged some victims from reporting." Stern Review, see page 45 (emphasis added).
You want to know who is discouraging rape victims from coming forward? The same people complaining about this girl being prosecuted.
Refusing to prosecute false rape claimants will hurt innocent men and boys.
The advocacy is unconscionable because it fails even to acknowledge, much less address, the harm to innocent men and boys accused of false rape claims. False accusations of rape have severely stigmatized more human beings than false accusations of any other crime. The public scorn from false rape claims has caused innocent men and boys to be killed and to kill themselves; to be beaten, to be chased, to be spat upon, and to be looked upon with suspicion long after they are cleared of wrongdoing. They lose not only their good names but often their jobs, their businesses, and their friends. It is often impossible for the falsely accused to ever obtain gainful employment once the lie hits the news: for the rest of his life, a falsely accused man will have prospective employers Googling his name and discovering the horrid accusation.
If you want example of these atrocities, you need not look back to the hanging trees of the Deep South. Spend a week or two scrolling through this site.
So why was this case against the teen girl prosecuted? According to The Guardian, because of the harm to the boy. And it's about time a victim of a false rape claim isn't treated as flotsam:
"The police insist they were right to pursue the girl, partly to help restore the boy's reputation. Forest of Dean Detective Sergeant Mark Stenhouse said: 'We take all rape allegations extremely seriously and thoroughly investigate any that are brought to our attention. . . .. We are very conscious of the needs of youngsters which is why we also had to consider the impact on the 14-year-old boy who had been accused. The impact on his life has been terrible and the case has caused great distress to him and his family. With his reputation cleared we hope he can go on to rebuild his life and get over this period.'"
"A CPS spokesperson said it had carefully considered whether it was in the public interest to prosecute the girl. 'We concluded it was as she made an extremely serious allegation which was strongly undermined by the evidence, including witness statements. And her victim suffered serious repercussions as people he knew believed he was a rapist, and treated him as such.'"
"The boy's parents told the Guardian they believed the trial had helped. 'She put us through hell,' his father said. 'My son has had threats and abuse from other kids. He tends to keep himself to himself more and when he does go out we're worried about him.
"'It was terrible when he was arrested. His mum was in hysterics. All we wanted was for her to admit it didn't happen but she never has. The case has given us some sort of closure.' Would he welcome a custodial sentence for the girl? 'If it stops someone else doing the same thing, yes.'"
Refusing to prosecute false rape claimants will hurt rape victims.
For every criminal act, our society accepts the notion that punishing the wrongdoer will promote, among other things, deterrence. In false rape case after case after case, judges and law enforcement officials bemoan the harm to actual rape victims done by the lies of false accusers. So how do we stop the lies? That's a great question since the sexual grievance industry does not want us to deter rape liars. The liars should be permitted to lie with impunity, thus encouraging other women and girls to lie about rape. And with every rape lie, the integrity of rape victims is diminished.
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News stories about the conviction: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350542/Girl-15-convicted-crying-rape-boy-14.html and http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jan/28/false-rape-complaint-prosecution
23 comments:
Wow-wee! You are the greatest advocate this movement has.
Feminists think they own rape. It's almost like, "Hands Off!" "This is ours!"
Its funny in a way.
Women should be the first ones yelling at the feminists for making rape a political and gender issue.
By doing so, they are seriously dragging the legitimacy of the real crime through the mud.
The bottom line here folks is ...IT IS A PERVERSION OF A LEGAL ESTABLISHMENT TO NOT CHARGE FALSE RAPE ACCUSERS!!
Modern "Empowerment" of the gender-raunch community is firmly rooted in the cultural hysteria fomented by the enablemment of false rape accusations.
Gender-raunch feminists know that if law enforcement started charging false rape accusers, society would see the truth that women and girls are lying about rape everywhere, and are very rarely telling the truth, this truth coming out would humble the "Empowered" gender-raunch community.
All reported rapes, including false reports, feed into that 6% attrition rate. Therefore, if false reports are deterred by prosecuting the rape liars, the number of reports would go down and that 6% figure would be higher. The conviction rate might also be a bit higher since undoubtedly some of those false reports end in charges being brought against innocent men. Thus it is doubly important for the sexual grievence industry to make certain that false reports continue to be made.
TDOM
TDOM, very astute.
I have finished my opinion piece on The Stern Review, and it talks about WAR (Women Against Rape)
http://antifeministmedia.blogspot.com/2011/01/stern-review-2010-report-by-baroness_28.html
These so-called "feminists" are criminals who abuse the legal system for their own psychotic purposes. They are not "anti-rape" but pro-liar.
Can you imagine if someone were to argue that it should be legal to set fire to your own house so that you could collect the insurance money, and that anybody who is against legalizing that was somehow victimizing the real victims of house fires? It's ridiculous, but that is exactly what these nifongists are arguing. And the media lets them get away with it!
Yes, evil exists.
Great post. I honestly do not get these arguments. For the police or the DA to bring charges against a person they believe made a false rape charge they will need this thing called probably cause. Which for a charge like this will basically mean evidence that a rape did not occur period. If a rape might have occured than that is reasonable doubt right there. That a woman shows no sign of rape and its a he said she said sitution without a video tape or a 3rd party witness no charges are going to be filed against her.
Sort of the way rape cases should be handled the other way without evidence charges should almost never be brought. Or for that matter any criminal case. The DA's takes an oath for justice not for convictions or throw something at the jury and hope it sticks.
Their behavior only makes sense when you realize that they don't really care about rape victims at all. They only want to hurt men.
The danger of prosecuting false rape claims is that it can almost never be 100% verified whether the rape happened. Therefore, I could see making an argument for not prosecuting rapists -- however, I wonder how prosecuting people who allegedly lied about being raped benefits anyone, especially in the case of a 16 year old girl.
Again from a article at the end of this article from guardian:
"Drunken men who demand sex from their wives or girlfriends should be treated as rapists and no longer allowed to claim their judgment was blurred by alcohol, according to the head of the government's review of the rape laws."
"'Being drunk is voluntary and people who become drunk are responsible for their actions. It is not alcohol that commits rape. It is not an excuse,' says Lady Stern. "
"Every prosecution [of false rape claims] puts women who have been raped off reporting it."
Anecdotal evidence that a very large portion of rape claims are false, perhaps?
"The danger of prosecuting false rape claims is that it can almost never be 100% verified whether the rape happened."
True, but it CAN be verified whether or not someone is lying about the facts, stories not adding up,changing over time,etc,admitting to falsification of details. These all prove that a lie has happened, and if the "victim" is lying about the facts of the alleged rape, one can reasonably infer that the alleged rape itself might have been fabricated.
When one person is lying,the other might not be telling the truth but it becomes infinitely more probable that they are.
"Therefore, I could see making an argument for not prosecuting rapists --"
That is not an argument that anyone here has or will ever make. A person who has been proved to have raped someone should be prosecuted.
"however, I wonder how prosecuting people who allegedly lied about being raped benefits anyone, especially in the case of a 16 year old girl."
You want me to tell you? There are a plethora of benefits. Number 1 is that the victims of false rape accusations receive some measure of justice for the crime that has been committed against them, number 2 is that young girls learn integrity,which they are sorely lacking if they would trivialize a crime as serious as rape to cover up their own misdeeds or exact petty revenge over some trivial slight.
Number 3 is that it opens up the public dialogue on rape and false rape and rolls back the haze of feminist gender politics on the issue. For too long, feminists have controlled the dialogue on rape entirely and the message they have put out is that rape is a weapon used by all men to keep all women in a perpetual state of fear. Does that sound like a healthy message to you?
Does that help REAL victims of rape in ANY WAY? No, it further traumatizes them,it marginalizes male victims of rape,including children, and creates needless hysteria that only serves the feminist agenda of driving a wedge between men and women.
There are more benefits,of course,but these are the ones I felt most pertinent to add to the discussion.
She added: "We ask the DPP, when over 90% of rapists go free, is prosecuting a 16-year-old justice?"
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Even if it was true that over 90% of rapists go free, what she is really saying is '90% of rapists go free, therefore 100% of false accusers should go free!'.
Impeccable logic. Because it is always better and morally superior to punish absolutely no wrongdoers at all than to punish a small proportion of wrongdoers.
The anti-rape campaigners are pawns in the war on/against men and boys.
"The case has caused alarm among anti-rape campaigners and legal experts who believe it is yet another example of the increasing readiness of the police and the Crown Prosecution Service to pursue women – or in this case a girl – who in their eyes falsely claim rape."
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You gotta love anyone who can write about how "alarming" it is that some women and girls are finally being held accountable for their lies, without a hint of irony or sarcasm. Talk about being tone deaf! What next? People being charged for perjury or perverting the course of justice? Why, that will be the end of civilization as we know it!
Many women are so conditioned to being held to lower standards of personal responsibility and rarely being punished for their misdeeds, that it probably does come as a shock when they are charged over a matter like this. Why are those prosecutors being such a bunch of big meanies! She's only a girl, after all!
Cases like this simply illustrate that many so-called victim advocates are really just interested in waging war against men and boys more generally, and are merely using issues like rape as a smokescreen of legitimacy. In a sense, this just gives the game away.
Otherwise, why the hell would rape victim advocates be so keen to protect false accusers? You would think they would be mad at false accusers for undermining the credibility of genuine victims.
I can understand why victim advocates would want to downplay the frequency of false allegations. But it makes absolutely zero sense that they would want to protect individual false accusers once it is clear that they lied.
Remember, this is slightly more than a he said/she said scenario. There is a 3rd party witness (or two) in this case who doesn't seem to be biased in her statements. That's more evidence than many rape claims that feminists claim should result in convictions.
Feminists are not interested in the truth- they are interested in preserving the right to arbitrarily imprison any man for any reason at any time.
TheTrend said...
Feminists are not interested in the truth- they are interested in preserving the right to arbitrarily imprison any man for any reason at any time
This is just part of the toxic essence of VAWA ( the victim must be believed). VAWA is a major tool in the ongoing/growing war against men and boys.
Rape hysteria is now the number one resource for neo American gender-raunch "Empowerment".
If Law enforcement were to start charging all false rape accusations, the biggest effect it would have on society would be the "dis-Empowerment" of the new gender-Raunch community as a whole.
"90% of accused rapists go free"
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The extent to which these people misquote statistics is shocking. Of course 90% of rapists don't go free; if they knew they were rapists, they wouldn't let them. What they mean I'd that 90% of ACCUSED rapists go free. This is not at all he same; I could go out today and accuse everyone on my street of raping me. In court, they'd all be found innocent and released. Would that mean that, in my city, loads of rapists got off free? Of course not, because none of them would be rapists. It would mean loads of ACCUSED rapists got off free- not the same thing at all.
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