Coming this month, supposedly, is a report of a study conducted by Prof. David Lisak on the prevalence of false rape claims. According to a blogger named Thomas MacAulay Millar, Lisak studied all rape claims made to a U.S. university police department over a ten year period, and concluded that only 5.9 percent were false allegations.
Here's the criteria Lisak supposedly used: "The determination that a report of sexual assault is false can be made only if the evidence establishes that no crime was committed or attempted. This determination can be made only after a thorough investigation. This should not be confused with an investigation that fails to prove a sexual assault occurred. In that case the investigation would be labeled unsubstantiated. The determination that a report is false must be supported by evidence that the assault did not happen."
How did the claims break down? Pay attention: 5.9%, were false reports; 44% resulted in no disciplinary action; 35.3% resulted in the case proceeding; and the file in about 14% was too insufficient to code.
First, I can't tell what happened with any of the claims in the 35.3% category that "resulted in the case proceeding." What does that tell us about whether the claims were true or false? Absolutely nothing, of course.
Second, from Millar's blog report, I have no idea if Lisak arrived at a percentage of rape claims he determined were actual rapes.
Apparently not, but that doesn't stop Millar from making the following pronouncement: "False reports sometimes happen. False reports are a single-digit percentage of the total reports . . . ."
Really? And how on earth could Millar possibly make that assertion? He can't honestly pretend to know that there were no false claims among the claims in the other categories, now can he? Just because they can't be proven "false" using the criteria Lisak employed doesn't mean they weren't false. We just can't tell. Millar can't tell. I can't tell. No one can tell.
Or -- please tell me this isn't so -- is Millar assuming that if a claim wasn't proven false in accordance with Lisak's criteria, that it was either definitely or very likely an actual rape? Seriously? Puh-lease don't tell me he is saying that!
To say that false rape claims are only in the single digits of all rape claims requires a leap in logic for which there is precisely no authority beyond Millar's serene ipse dixit. It is misleading in the extreme to say definitively that only 5.9% of all rape claims reported on college campuses were false.
If there were utility in coming up with a percentage of false rape claims, the correct way to discuss the false rape phenomenon is to talk only about claims we know were either false claims or actual rapes: first, remove from consideration all those rape claims for which we don't know, one way or the other, if the claim was false or an actual rape. Don't make any politicized assumptions about those, as much as some people would like to. Then take all the rape claims for which we know with certainty, one way or the other, if the claim was an actual rape or a falsehood -- of that latter number, what percentage of the claims were false?
Only talk about the claims where we know what happened. That's the only honest way to discuss the problem. 5.9% in a vacuum means nothing. We need not be defensive about that number -- the percentage of claims we know were actual rapes could be lower. For most claims, we just won't know for certain what happened. That's the nature of a false rape claim. Using this honest method, Lisak should come up with a hefty double digit number of false rape claims. But to posit we "know" 5.9 percent are false is completely useless. Worse than useless, because it's misleading -- it wrongly suggests that the rest, the 94.1 percent, were actual rapes.
There is a legal term for such an implication: "horseshit."
Sadly, rape has become so embroiled in the gender-politicized sexual assault milieu, where serious dialogue grounded in fact is displaced by vituperative rants and politically motivated assertions, that most reports about the prevalence of such false claims are inherently untrustworthy. The people who get funding to do research in this area often have a vested financial interest in insisting that rape is rampant, and that male predatory behavior is a national epidemic. They teach courses, and have written boatloads, that so insists. What are the odds that such a person will head up a study that categorically refutes everything he or she has taught? How about "none." (The much reviled Kanin, on the other hand, was a feminist darling cited in the infamous Koss report until he suddenly became a nitwit when he published his false rape piece. Go figure.)
It is disingenuous to insist that false rape claims are an insignificant number because no one knows for certain the percentage of false rape claims. A leading feminist legal scholar has acknowledged this irrefutable fact: ". . . the statistics on false rape accusation widely vary and 'as a scientific matter, the frequency of false rape complaints to police or other legal authorities remains unknown.'" A. Gruber, Rape, Feminism, and the War on Crime, 84 Wash. L. Rev. 581, 595-600 (November 2009) (citation omitted). An authoritative law review article debunked the canard that only two percent of all rape claims are false. The author traced this number to its baseless source. See http://llr.lls.edu/volumes/v33-issue3/greer.pdf. The FBI has compiled statistics to show that women lie far more often about rape than other crimes. The Politics of Sexuality, Barry M. Dank, Editor in Chief, Vol. 3 at 36, n. 8. It is, therefore, erroneous to assert that only a small or insignificant percentage of rape claims are false because no one can make that assertion with any degree of certainty, and all the available evidence suggests it is wrong.
That the exact prevalence of false rape claims is neither known nor knowable is easily demonstrated. Only a relatively small percentage of rape claims can be definitively called "rape." This is beyond dispute. Roughly fifteen percent end in conviction in the U.S. and of those we know that some innocent men and boys are convicted. We also know that some claims reported (the numbers vary depending on the study) are outright false. But in between the claims we are reasonably certain were actual rapes, and the ones we are reasonably certain were false claims, is a vast gray area consisting of a group of claims that cannot properly be classified as "rapes" -- because we just don't know. That's the nature of a rape claim. The claims in this vast gray middle area often suffer from evidentiary infirmities. For example, for some such claims, while the claimant herself might think a rape occurred, her outward manifestations of assent did not match her subjective disinclination to engage in sex, so it wasn't rape. And that's just one of a countless number of examples.
Millar also noted that the majority of women decline to report their rapes because people "act like skeptics and inquisitors to women who report allegations of sexual assault."
That's, of course, another rape myth. At the Specter Senate rape hearings in Washington in September, Scott Berkowitz, President and Founder of the Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN), blew the lid off the myths about why women don't report their rapes. Berkowitz rejected the common consensus that women don't report because they legitimately fear they won't be believed by the law enforcement and judicial systems that have failed them, or because false rape reports are given inordinate attention and news coverage. According to the summary of Mr. Berkowitz's testimony, prepared by Amanda Hess, no less: "On reporting: More victims may not be reporting their rapes, but the reasoning has changed over the past few decades. 'A generation ago,' the reasons were things like, 'fear of not being believed; fear of being interrogated about and blamed for their own behavior, and what they were wearing. In short, they feared that they would be the one on trial.' Today, 'the perception of many victims has evolved.' Now they don't report for these reasons: 'they don't want their loved ones to know what happened; they're ashamed themselves; they just want to put it all behind them.'"
Here is reality: no one -- no one -- knows the precise extent of underreporting, and no one ever has. In fact, the politicization of rape renders it impossible to discern whether underreporting is even a significant problem. See, J. Fennel, Punishment by Another Name: The Inherent Overreaching in Sexually Dangerous Person Commitments, 35 N.E.J. on Crim. & Civ. Con. 37, 49-51 (2009).
Millar concludes with this pithy dicussion closer, the literary equivalent of "I am right, and the rest of you can go f*ck yourselves": "The incidence of false reporting is simply not high enough to justify the propaganda put forth by the pro-rape lobby."
By any measure, denigrating the unique and typically awful experience of the wrongly accused by dismissing them as a myth, or by trivializing their vicimization as unworthy of discussion, is not merely dishonest but morally grotesque.
Sunday, December 12, 2010
The upcoming Lisak rape report: false rape claims are in the single digits
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Impossible to argue with this, but I am sure they will.
To insist that the number of false claims is 5.9% is the height of dishonesty. Tell us the percentage of actual rapes. What is it, 3 percent? Even if every case that was referred to a hearing was an actual rape (and that assumption is bullshit), the percentage of false claims would be closer to one in six. And that assumes that every case that resulted in the case proceeding was an actual rape.
If the American public knew the truth about the false rape accusation explosion, as that Florida sheriff said here a few months ago, "false rape accusations are now an epidemic"; the Gender feminist Klan would lose their "empowerment" to lynch anyone they felt like lynching anytime they felt like lynching them.
Great refutation. My hunch is that the vast majority of claims on campus are false, and that most women who claim they were rape but don't report were not actually raped, and that's why they don't report.
"How did the claims break down? Pay attention: 5.9%, were false reports; 44% resulted in no disciplinary action; 35.3% resulted in the case proceeding; and the file in about 14% was too insufficient to code."
Ah!
This is exactly what I was talking about some time back when I mentioned the "experimental design" being proposed for studies to counter Kanin's - inflate the "unknown" category by raising the bar for what can be deemed to be false.
Despite the rather high bar Kanin himself set, they're seeking to push it higher still, even suggesting that coerced recantations be considered "suspect", and not valid for determining a claim to have been falsified. To restate this: If police push a woman about the discrepancies in her claim, and she confesses to having made it up, she has been intimidated into lying about having falsified her story to appease those mean bullying police, and thus, her coerced confession is not adequate to support the determination that the claim was false.
Once they have managed to recast more cases into that great "gray area" (58%) [That "44% resulted in no disciplinary action" being a rather obvious attempt at obfuscation of the fact that those 44% of cases lacked evidence to push the case forward. We are all pretty much aware that college disciplinary boards do not need much evidence at all to go after young men. We’ve seen several examples presented in detail here] , they need only focus on highlighting the differentiation between proven false, and unknown = “probably did happen” to create the appearance of a much lower percentage of claims being falsified.
This is actually fairly clever on the part of the SGI.
The other “prongs” of their approach is/will be A) to produce numerous smaller studies (as opposed to larger, more comprehensive studies), so as to counter Kanin’s 2 studies with numerous “counter-studies”, creating the illusion that more studies give great credence to their arguments; and B) to publish in journals which allow very limited access to the actual texts and data of the studies (usually by requiring ignorantly high subscription rates), and providing instead for public consumption an abstract aimed at being easily adapted by the media for publication “as is”, carrying their intended “message” of lower FRA rates, as lazy journalists will simply use the information from those abstracts, and not bother with the time and expense to try to drill deeper into the numbers.
I’m quite certain we can expect many more of these “studies” in the next few years.
slw, excellent.
They will never be able to push the actual number of proven rape claims above a certain level, so they will be forced to characterize the claims.
The gray area is the problem that needs to be worked -- keeping kids out of situations where there will be misunderstandings and, perhaps, differing perceptions. But instead of working with us to admit, "Gee, a hell of a lot of encounters result in murky incidents that are impossible to unravel -- what can we do to reduce the misunderstandings that lead to a lot of these claims?" they will focus all their attention on insisting that most of these murky instances were definitely RAPES.
How about this for starters: pounding it into kids' heads that drinking excessively and sex play lead to bad things, for both women and men? You know, a little "victim blaming" for BOTH genders?
I'm going to make that my new mantra for sexual assault education: blunt victim blaming for both genders.
"Hey, assholes: you want to drink and play around with a member of the opposite sex? Then you run the risk of something awful happening: for guys, you might not think it was rape, but you could be charged nevertheless, and even if you beat the rap, your life will be destroyed. For women, you might think it was rape, but it might look to an outsider like a false rape claim.
"How the hell do either of you knuckleheads expect anyone to sort out your drunken orgy after the fact?
"Getting blasted and sex don't mix."
Sorry. I know that message isn't what some of you want to hear. If we want to go after the big "gray" area, we need for both parties to take greater responsibility.
"Here's the criteria Lisak supposedly used: "The determination that a report of sexual assault is false can be made only if the evidence establishes that no crime was committed or attempted. This determination can be made only after a thorough investigation. This should not be confused with an investigation that fails to prove a sexual assault occurred. In that case the investigation would be labeled unsubstantiated. The determination that a report is false must be supported by evidence that the assault did not happen.""
First off, I've been reading David Lisak for years, and he has repeatedly proven himself to be anything but an objective researcher.
Secondly, what stands out about his criteria for a false rape claim, is that he has not used the same criteria in counting true rape claims, that it "must be supported by evidence that the assault" happened.
Thirdly, what exactly is "attempted"?? I have read feminists numbers that counted "attempted rape" as a man asking a drunk woman to have sex, her answering no, and the man accepting her refusal, because if she did say yes then it would have been "rape" because she was unable to consent.
Fourthly, what evidence, if you are going to ignore statements of the accused and any of his male friends who might have been eye witnesses as evidence, as I would presume Lisak did, could there be to disprove an attempt, besides alibi placing the accused somewhere else at the time? Evidence of no sex wouldn't disprove an "attempt".
I love insane comments like this:
"If men are so bloody concerned about false rape reports, here’s what they can do to end them: end the double standard. Every false rape report is due to sexism, and specifically the sexism that labels women whores or sluts, and to a lesser extent due to all the other smaller, more general sexist slurs: liar, hysteric, nuts, flighty, emotional, crazy, etc, etc.,"
Even after putting aside that this blog has documented thousands of examples to the contrary, of false rape accusations with motives that had nothing to do with sexism or "slut shaming", we are still left with the absurd contention that name-calling somehow forces women to lie about rape. Even when women do make false rape claims it's not their fault, it's men and their evil sexism.
Anon, this isn't meant to be a criticism, but why get upset over the 6%? It's 6% in a vacuum -- it means nothing. We need to know how many proven rape claims there were. I promise you that for the universe of claims where it is KNOWN what happened, that 6% goes way, way up.
Why are we afraid to acknowledge that most rape claims don't lend themselves to knowing what happened?
"Every false rape report is due to sexism, and specifically the sexism that labels women whores or sluts . . . ."
A similar nutty feminist claim was made about the false accuser in Hofstra by Amand Hess. Here's what I wrote to refute it:
Hess' suggestion that it was some misogynistic and diabolical "rape culture" that made Ndonye regret her shocking sex frolic, or that kept her from trumpeting her bizarre tryst to the world, is stardust feminist wishfulness. Think, for a moment, about what really happened here. Ndonye's boyfriend was trying to call her at the very moment she was urging four strangers to insert their penises into her. The notion that Ndonye was merely "defending her femininity" by denying this particular consensual romp is absurd on its face. By any measure, she was cheating on her boyfriend in a nasty way -- there is no other way to spin it -- and she was rightfully ashamed for doing that. So she lied to cover it up.
Dec 13, 2010 12:07:00 PM
Oh, I agree, but even someone as mentally disordered as Amanda Hess might have trouble making that argument where no sex occurred.
For example, where the accuser lied after being rejected, or out of revenge for some slight. Or during a divorce or custody battle. Or made up a rape story as an alibi for crashing her car or missing curfew or being late for work or whatever.
Regardless, that Lisak included cases where there was no claim of sexual assault (in the denominator of his percentage) proves his study is junk.
Dec 13, 2010 12:04:00 PM
If Lisak volunteers which number of claims were proven true (according to the same criteria) I will eat this computer.
Without knowing the number proven true, the study isn't just worthless, it's the most misleading exercise in advocacy research possible.
Dec 13, 2010 12:35:00 PM
I agree that it is misleading advocacy research (although I have seen worse). Still, that's our opinion.
Otoh, that taking the number of rape claims proven false and putting them over a number that isn't an amount of rape claims, and then claiming that fraction is the percent of rape claims that are false, is just plain wrong. That is not in the realm of opinion. It is deliberate lying.
Just like when Mary Koss tried to show there was all this unreported rape on college campuses and asked behavioral questions from age fourteen.
Crap, it looks like blogger ate the second half of my previous comment, which looked like it was posted before:
Fifthly, this study may not have counted rape claims that were "unfounded" and therefore not counted as "reports" by the UCR as false claims.
Sixthly, he is obviously padding the numbers by including "Case Did Not Proceed: Whether because of insufficient evidence, inability to identify the perpetrator, the survivor withdrew from the process or the survivor’s account did not meet the definition of a sexual assault". If the "survivor's account" (survive what may I ask?) did not even meet the definition of sexual assault, then why would it be counted as a non-false claim of sexual assault?
Seventhly, since it is only one unnamed school, I wonder if Lisak did this for a number of schools, and then picked the one with the lowest number.
Finally, I wonder if Lisak counted recantation of the accuser as "evidence that the assault did not happen".
Regardless, I wonder if Lisak thinks it's acceptable to ruin the lives of the 6% who even he agrees have been falsely accused because "False reports are a single-digit percentage of the total reports".
"The incidence of false reporting is simply not high enough to justify the propaganda put forth by the pro-rape lobby."
And there is a pro-rape lobby? Really? Can anyone name one member of this imaginary organization? Surely, they must at least have a website.
The problem is that by saying "only six percent of all rape claims are false," it suggests the other 94 percent were actual rapes when, in fact, only a tiny fraction of the claims in that 94% were actual rapes. THAT'S the problem with it -- it's grossly misleading. Like when the SGI insisted it was two percent, but they didn't bother to tell us the other 98% were not actual rapes.
Anonymous - "And there is a pro-rape lobby? Really? Can anyone name one member of this imaginary organization? Surely, they must at least have a website."
I think your mis-identify those who continually hype the hysteria about rape as "pro-rape" (the generalized term commonly used here if the "Sexual Grievance Industry (SGI)). Certainly outside a a very few certifiable individuals, no one is advocating FOR rapes to happen (although the SGI is so obviously willing to take advantage of woman being raped (they fully exclude the victimization of men) that many do feel that they actually do encourage rape).
Try rainn.org as a starting point.
Hum...
I just posted the idea that practically no one encourages rape.
But then I realized that most man-hating gender-feminists DO advocate for men convicted of crimes against women to be raped in prison - so I stand corrected. A "pro-rape" lobby can be easily identified within the SGI (just limited to the the encouragement for MEN to be raped).
slw, what's your guess as to the percentage of provable rapes among the other 94%?
Archivist - "slw, what's your guess as to the percentage of provable rapes among the other 94%?"
Objection! Calls for speculation.
But, since this isn't a court of law, I suppose I can go right ahead and speculate away...
Of the (mere) 35.3% that were deemed actionable, I'd guess that as many as half might be cases of actual sexual assault [you do realize, of course, that herein we are adding an additional layer of confusion to the issue as the cases being considered are not all rapes, but also include sexual assaults and attempted rape, with some attempted rapes not actually involving any physical contact, let alone a sexual assault (i.e. guy surprises and moves to grab a woman, who drives him away with pepper spray. No physical contact may have occurred, but it WILL go on the books as an attempted rape.)], and of those that are real cases, less than half are likely to be actual (penetrative) rapes.
From that grouping (of 35%), I’d generously conclude that 10% could be rapes. (3.5%)
Of the 14% ”too insufficient to code”, I’d bet that none of them were rapes. (0%)
And, of the 44% resulting in ”no disciplinary action” I’d allow that 10% of those could be rapes in which a suspect is not identified or caught. (4.4%)
So, overall, of the total reports, I’d make a rough guess of 7.9% rapes.
This is of course, my guess for the number of rapes out of all reports as opposed to the percentage of rape reports being true.
I just realized that if we consider the reports proven false to all be reported rapes, then we’d have 5.9% false and my guess of 7.9% real rapes, or a false reporting rate of ~35% - right in line with what the real studies have been concluding.
FRS loves slwerner.
My guess, which I garnered from my discussion with Millar, is that the report does not necessarily state what Millar claims it states. There is too much missing information to be able to draw any conclusions, and based on what I know about Lisak's previous studies, Lisak likes cover all the bases.
TS, Millar's closing line is so hateful, I am certain I could not be civil to him.
@slwerner...
Had a look at that discussion. Notably it's all the usual suspects none of whom, I suspect, owns a mirror else they'd be turned to stone**.
If you asked any of those suspects how rape could be prevented the best they could do is say that men shouldn't rape or some variant therof.
Meanwhile the distorted political ideology that they spin around their feigned and exaggerated outrage hurts real victims, casts many innocent folk into Dante's Inferno and mitigates against any notion of prevention. How can one solve a problem if they're never permitted to analyse it rationally and honestly?
No question in my mind that there is a pro-rape lobby and that they are it.
(** I reckon ginmar would look great in basalt.)
"I think your mis-identify those who continually hype the hysteria about rape as "pro-rape" (the generalized term commonly used here if the "Sexual Grievance Industry (SGI))."
You misread what I wrote. Thomas MacAulay Millar was calling those who claim false rape claims are significant "pro-rape".
Although the SGI is pro-rape. But that's a different point.
"I just realized that if we consider the reports proven false to all be reported rapes, then we’d have 5.9% false and my guess of 7.9% real rapes, or a false reporting rate of ~35% - right in line with what the real studies have been concluding."
I would have a different guess, but it's apples and oranges. The 5.9% is supposedly the number proven false, not guessed false. So the comparative number would be the number proven true, not guessed true. Which based on the same criteria that Lisak used to label claims false would be a much lower number. Notice that he doesn't take that number and announce it as the percentage of rape claims that are true.
Yes, I do agree with Archivist that implying that those proven false were the only false claims is wrong and misleading, and deliberately so. However, if you do the math, Lisak is claiming only 8/135 claims are false according to his criteria. The glaring fault is that 135 includes some unknown -- quite possibly large -- number of claims where "the survivor’s account did not meet the definition of a sexual assault". Those could not be false sexual assault claims (nor true sexual assault claims), because they weren't sexual assault claims. He might as well have added the number of pennies he had in his pocket.
The same also applies to the 14% that was "too insufficient to code". If "The file lacked basic information necessary to categorize it" why would it be included in the number of claims? And I wonder how many of those were false claims they conveniently chose to ignore.
Anon at 7:08: excellent analysis.
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