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| A Revelation in the Louvre, José Jiménez Aranda |
It is a spectacle one female blogger called "interesting for most women." Another young lady was more blunt: "the whole male anatomy de-mystified. :)) I never thought that their organs actually bounced, you know?"
Another young woman said this: "We were practically spazzing out as we talked about it." Another exclaimed: "I was totally BLOWN THE [crude term for intercourse] AWAY. Honestly, I don't remember anything anymore. I kinda looked at their chests and their backs. . . . .I meet a tall guy I look at his chest and his face. (hair actually) I can only remember 'it' vaguely. Whatever. I was just riding on adrenaline. I love the fact that everyone was screaming and tossing about."
Still another woman praised her (female) prof for letting her class go watch: "Just when I have finally accepted the depressing fact that I would miss the Oblation run this year, enter my professor (BLESS HER!) who generously gave us the time to witness the thrill of the streaking =p"
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| Oblation Run 2010 |
What, pray tell, would happen to a male professor who specifically let his class out early to witness naked college girl runners? I shudder for any man who would even allow that passing thought. But a male professor is unlikely ever to have that choice. The fact is, a female-only Oblation Run would be inconceivable in the Philippines, or for that matter, in Philadelphia, or anywhere else. The event, as presently constituted, is mildly naughty when the guys shed their clothes; but it would be wholly offensive and politically incorrect in the extreme if the genders were reversed -- even though, it is fair to speculate, the reaction of a hetero male crowd wouldn't be anywhere near as spastic, over-the-top, or downright excited as the reaction of the female spectators.
It is well to note that if any of these boys ran around outside in their birthday suits at any other time of the year, more than a few of these shrieking, empowered young women likely would be sufficiently "offended" that they would call the police. But the nudity is just fine in the context of the Oblation Run because the boys are naked for the express purpose of titillating, and being ogled by, the women.
Get it? Objectification is wrong, but since they have more advantages than we do, it's OK when we objectify.
So much for silly things like principles, honesty, and integrity. If you want young women and men to buy into the notion that objectification, as a practice, is "wrong," you do a damn pathetic job of selling that point when your actions send the exact opposite message. That's called rationalization, ladies, and it smells a lot like the most ham-handed hypocrisy. When you try to have it both ways, is it any wonder nobody's buying it?
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But all of this ignores the elephant in the room, the real double-standard at play here. Women objectify men every bit as much, and actually -- cue the feminist eye rolls -- a lot more, than men objectify women. Just not in a sexual way. "We live in a world where men are largely valued by how much money they make, what kind of job they have, and how much power they wield. While we may not objectify men in terms of appearance to the extent we do women, there is certainly a tendency to equate a man's worth with his position or power or fame." See here.
And the objectification of men goes way beyond money. It is culturally acceptable for women to concoct a whole fantasy man out of whole cloth, an object of their deepest wishfulness, and to use their imaginary little man as a yardstick to judge and grade the real life man with whom they're stuck. Because no flesh and blood possessor of the Y-chromosome can live up to that, it's the most deadly kind of objectification. Is it any wonder women initiate the vast majority of divorces? A female blogger said it better than I can:
"There is a cultural hangover of dependence, need and a desire to be rescued in which men are objectified by women not as strippers, per se, but as domestic saviors, knights-with-wrenches, good guys who come and repave your driveway, who make a lot of money and still have that youthful charm, who will read to the kids in their pajamas and start the coffee for you in the morning.
"While many of us won't admit it, we are as judgmental, critical and angry when our men fall short of these images and wishes we carry around as men are when we gain twenty pounds, appear haggard and spent, nagging the kids to brush their teeth and want sleep instead of sex.
If you listen to women talk about men it can be quite scathing.
We blanche upon hearing the foul language and cold tone in the conversations of men with regard to women's bodies and their sexual appeal; but listen to a group of girls or women discussing every flaw, every nuance, every shortcoming of a boy or man they are dating/seeing/flirting with/engaged/married to, and you will be able to deduce that while women are often speaking from a place of justice rather than mojo, their indignant perfectionism is a thing of intensity and, yes, objectification.
For when we assume a man should be all of these things we want them to be, aren't we ignoring their thinking, feeling, laughing, struggling, flawed selves?
http://www.empowher.com/sex-relationships/content/boys-gone-wild-how-do-women-objectify-men
And here endeth today's sermon.




26 comments:
To be honest, I think we need to reject the concept of "sexual objectification". The body is not an object. It's part of the self. To think that physically desiring someone is treating them as a non-human thing is to fall for that rather whiskery old religious notion that the self is pure spirit and the body is just a corrupt prison it's trapped in.
We think the life of the mind is somehow superior the life of the body, but that's because we have books by philosphers and theologians - people who live the life of the mind - telling us so. But their books are self-serving. People who live the life of the body - from builders to athletes to lovers - don't write elaborately argued treatises claiming their way of life is purer and closer to God.
The body and the mind are the same sort of thing. We inherit them from our parents and can develop them with effort. In fact, as modern neuroscience tells us, there is no ghost in the machine: the mind is a product of the brain, a physiological organ and part of the body, so the life of the mind is the life of the body. So no more equating bodily desire with dehumanisaton. The body is every bit as human, as personal and as individual as the mind. The girls watching the boys running naked in the Phillipines are not "objectifying" them.
Why do feminists insist that male sexuality is based on desiring objects? It makes no sense, but it has become pretty much received opinion throughout society, so much so that even feminist-critical people like yourself buy into it. I believe the answer, as is often the case when one group talks nonsense about how another group thinks, is projection. A vibrator is a sexual object. It can't even be said to simulate a man, because it stimulates in a way a man can't - by vibration. Which sex uses them?
Brilliant, Paddy. Thanks.
Oblation Run with women runners would be a most popular event.
The entire "women as objects" thing is an attempt to shame men's sex drives.
Lots of good posts, recently Archivist. Esp. the one on the abominable laws in Washington State.
Anyway, I -am very surprised. I've been reading critiques of objectification for years ( I mean 2 decades and a half), and yet Paddy is the only other person I've ever seen come to my basic conclusion about this: objectification is overdone.
Not only is it impossible to be a human and NOT "objectify" other people, but the harm of this is often over-blown for political, religious, or other reasons.
Objectification is a practical necessity for most forms if not all forms of power. If I have something you want or desire enough to give me your money, your obedience, or your time (or all 3, and you can call me "Sahib"), chances are, to some extent, you've objectified me as being at least partly identified with the object of your desires.
Take away objectification and the world as we know it wouldn't exist, humans would have a hard time interacting at all, and we'd probably be very passionless entitites.
I'd argue "objectification" is ONLY wrong if its too the extent that it enables one to deny the humanity or to forget about the humanity of the one you objectify. Sort of like when those Japanese Unit 737 doctors regarded their involuntary test subjects as "logs". It made it easier, a few of them have confessed over the years.
But being in love with your primary sexual object - there's nothing wrong with that :)
Clarence
I never thought that their organs actually bounced, you know?"
Obviously not a Physics Major.
Wonders if her breasts bounce? Oh, surely not!
In the US such a display would place even more males on the sex offender registry so American women could ogle them safely from a photo.
Is Hooters Sex Entertainment or Family Fun?
By Tanya Roth on December 21, 2010 5:46 AM | No TrackBacks
A family friendly, kids-eat free kind of place, or a "sexually charged" hang-out that serves up waitresses as part of "vicarious sexual entertainment?"
If you ask the National Organization for Women, Hooters restaurants is trying to have it both ways: a smokin hot joint when it comes to defending against sexual equality or harassment lawsuits and just a cozy family place when it comes to marketing its baby-sized T's like "Future Hooter's Girl." That visual makes your stomach feel like you've had one too many greasy hot wings, doesn't it?
While no lawsuit has yet been filed, the NOW complaint has been lodged with the police department in San Francisco, according to local news KTVU. It seems in the past, when caught in a skin-tight corner in a sexual equality lawsuit (Hooters guys? Why not?) the company has deflected the claims by saying they are not a restaurant, but instead provide "vicarious sexual entertainment."
Neat. Sexual entertainment with high-chairs, kids menus and kids eat free on Sundays. Talk about family fun.
That is exactly what has got NOW hot under the collar. Adult venues cannot serve to minors, San Francisco attorney Mona Lisa Wallace, the president of the San Francisco chapter of NOW, told KTVU. If you want kids in your restaurant, you have to comply with EEOC rules. If not, and you are an adult entertainment establishment, then for heaven's sake, put away the high-chairs.
Not to mention the ick factor present in the kid-sized T-shirts. Is Hooter's really suggesting that patrons should buy a baby-T for their daughter in the hopes that someday, she too will provide "vicarious sexual entertainment?" This may not actually be a violation of California law, as Wallace alleged to KTVU. But is certainly isn't the career path you want to plop down in front of your 2-year-old.
Hooters supporters are not taking this complaint lying down. "Why pick on Hooters? It's a great place to have a beer, watch a game," Juan Colmerno of San Leandro, Calif. told KTVU. "They got great service. The girls are great."
Hooters fires back with a strong reply to the NOW complaint: Hooters is fine for kids because it is "wholesome" sex appeal. In a statement from the company's marketing vice president, Mike McNeil, the restaurant says, "The element of sex appeal is certainly prevalent in our restaurants, and is the essence of the Hooters experience, but the Hooters brand of sex appeal is wholesome and that of the all-American cheerleader, not a seedy strip club." Thanks for clearing that up.
Back in the 50's before the American patriarchy was divided and broken, women had a degree of modesty.
Now that the "Gender / Raunch" community have near hegemonic control over most aspects of American life; these Gender/Raunch feminists are objectifying women to a degree that makes the old patriarchs turn their heads away.
American Gender / Raunch did not complain when that pervert wrote the book published by Amazon on how to molest children and get away with it; Why not?? Could it be the Gender / Raunch community is full of the most piggish perverts in America.
The rise of and complete hegemony of "American Gender / Raunch" is exemplified in the recent Amazon phenomena. Amazon will not publish adult women in porn shots, but they will publish a book on how pedophiles can molest children and get away with it. This is an example of New American Gender / Raunch values.
Men are treated as second class citizens because:
#1- 50+ years of feminist brainwashing has produced a culture in which men are the scapegoats for women's failures.
#2- Our tabloid-informed media has degenerated and no longer has any ethical standard and prints whatever garbage sells papers or generates hits -- and the stories that sell always involve a man as the villain.
#3- Political correctness has devalued individual rights and truth in favor of group victim identity and "sensitivity."
#4- Because feminism has produced a moonscape of broken homes, and people from broken homes don't understand the importance of family -- thus perpetuating the cycle.
#5- Because people no longer have common sense or decency.
#6- Because men are sexually obsessed with women's bodies, as are women -- and stabbing other men in the back is the quickest way to find favor with women.
To be honest, I think we need to reject the concept of "sexual objectification". The body is not an object. It's part of the self. To think that physically desiring someone is treating them as a non-human thing is to fall for that rather whiskery old religious notion that the self is pure spirit and the body is just a corrupt prison it's trapped in.
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It's feminist bullshit.
Another example of American Gender / Raunch values lies in the appointment of the Us Secretary of education.
While serving his post as a school councilor, this "Gender / Raunch warrior" was approached by a 15 year old boy who told this "Gender / Raunch warrior" that he was having sex with an older man. Now If it were a young girl that said this, There would have been immediate arrests of the man involved, mass public hysteria in the media, mass outcries and glbt marches against a Rape culture.
well guess what happened when this "Gender / raunch warrioir" who is now secretary of education in the Obama administration said to the young boy upon learning the young boy was having sex with an older man???"Did u wear a condom".
This is another example of America now dominated by the "Gender / raunch" community who attack heterosexual males, in order to empower Gender / raunch pedophiles.
Anonymous - "Men are treated as second class citizens because:"
Dead-on!
Paddy Brown - "To be honest, I think we need to reject the concept of "sexual objectification". The body is not an object. It's part of the self. To think that physically desiring someone is treating them as a non-human thing is to fall for that rather whiskery old religious notion that the self is pure spirit and the body is just a corrupt prison it's trapped in."
Dead-on!
But, careful now guys, or people are going to start mistaking the The False Rape Society for the The deep-Thinkers Society:)
I know several people in PI.
I forwarded them this link.
Some are coercing me into moving there - they say the culture is very different, and - forgive, but I question whether or not naked women running around would be more offensive.
I have asked them if PI women would parade naked for the delight of the men - how "acceptable" it would be.
I should hear from them shortly.
No offense - but I heard that PI is WAY different that the "anglosphere".
quote 1:
"Women in PI would not do that - they are shy and timid - not sexually aggressive - and if they were raped while naked, it would be considered their fault - also, the men are wearing masks. I would not view a fraternity prank like this as representing the whole culture".
quote 2:
"Are you serious? There are women here who wear practically nothing all day long - like bikini's in grocery stores".
They kind of conflict one another - oh well.
Confused as always (sigh).
Go and watch the hysterical antics of girls in a Beatles audience. I've never seen a man act like that. Not once. In addition, from what I can tell male entertainers have a lot more trouble with fans (specifically female fans) thinking they're entitled to said entertainer's attention than female entertainers do with male fans.
Objectification in feminist terms really devolves to projection. Men are the primary subjects of objectification at the hands of women and our countries.
Valued only for their utilitarian purpose. Disposable in terms of parenthood, partnership and even in terms of their very bodies and lives. Things to be used.
Next time a feminist rants about objectification ask her if she owns a dildo.
Yeah, objectification, as in focusing on physical attributes but not considering the personality attached is something we all occasionally do, and occasionally want done to us.
The advice columnist Dan Savage had a good quote along the lines of "we all have the right to be objectified."
Anyway, it could be worse! You could be one of the people they show from the waist down on the news when they talk about the obesity epidemic! Now that's some serious objectification!
Look at what Modern American feminism has done for America.
It has broken and divided the working class males to the degree they feel hopeless and helpless, and no longer vote.
The Nazi's would be proud!!
Now with all those pesky underclass male voters out of the way, Perverts can deregulate the American mortgage industry to the point of complete collapse, and never be held accountable in any fashion at all by the people they bent over a barrel. And the Average American wanders why we are collapsing??? Perverts do not make responsible leaders.
The world may ask, how did America collapse??
I will say, it all started (the first perversion), was when American law enforcement started "manufacturing faulty and inflammatory statistics" around 40 years ago. Using state and federal dollars in "manufacturing faulty and inflammatory statistics" that build a prejudice against a class of people is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. American Gender / Raunch is now so "Empowered" that they urinate (on each other) and the constitution. so with this in mind, Other nations may be able to stop this perversion (before it takes root) by not allowing their law enforcements to begin the process of "Manufacturing faulty and inflamatory statistics" in the first place.
Dec 23, 2010 7:49:00 AM
I'm all for being patient, but as it seems that this person will not stop no matter what, then only logical solution is to ban him.
Paddy Brown's comment is one of the best I've read here in a long time.
Dec 23, 2010 7:49:00 AM
I'm all for being patient, but as it seems that this person will not stop no matter what, then only logical solution is to ban him.
Dec 23, 2010 2:07:00 PM
I say, Ban me if you must, but the truth is already out there, and will not be erased.
Those that needed to understand the "institutionalized perversion" of American law enforcement over the last 40 years, that has slowly and steadily "Empowered" American gender / Raunch, have gotten their first taste of the truth behind the perversion.
The manufacture of faulty and inflammatory statistics that build a legal prejudice against the innocent is beyond the scope of "enumerated police powers" that are given to American law enforcement, and no amount of censorship will change this.
I want to thank pierce for being bold enough to not censor me, in todays climate where the truth is treason. May god help us all, but this perversion is destroying the basic foundation of our legal system, and fostering perversion.
There is also an all male nude oblation run at the University of Philippines branch in Angeles City. Public property is used to provide a location for the event, as it is in Manila. The run is viewed by people of all ages without restriction. The obation runner's identities are not known, but even if we accept the fraternity's claim that they are all frat brothers, there could still be runners under 18, which is the legal age in Philippines. The oblation run does not provide any benefit other than enjoyment for the spectators.
There were formerly all female wet t-shirt contests at the Swagman Hotel in Angeles City. These contests were held on private property, with no taxpayer support. The contestants were never completely nude. Both contestants and audience members were 18 or older, and contestants had to submit proof of age to the government agency before the contests. The contests were very important sources to the contestants, and significant to the local economy.
The wet t-shirt contests in Angeles City have been outlawed and shut down because they were deemed obscene, but the oblation runs continue.
At least the streakers are late teens or older and voluntarily putting on a non-sadistic show for the girls.
There is also a custom in Philippines called "operation tuli". Google it, but not at work, NSFW potential child porn.
Every year boys are circumcised by amateurs, mostly girls who enjoy playing with and cutting on penises. the boys are generally 11 to 14 years old, although they range in age from 6 to 20's. The minors are there because their mothers wanted to get them a free circumcism; they are not there voluntarily.
Nudity is not customary in Philippines for children over about 6 years old. Many of the boys are extremly embarrassed, as can be seen on the many photos and videos of the event. The operations are done in public, with the nude suffering boys surrounded by laughing, happy girls. The girls are busy taking photos and videos, which they then post on facebook, youtube, etc. along with gloating accounts of how many penises they saw, handled, and cut.
It's like a training ground for future Catherine Beckers and Lorena Bobbitts.
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