Bloomington - Police on the Indiana University campus say the victim of a reported November 5 assault has recanted her story.
The McNutt dorm resident had told investigators that she was jogging near 14th and Walnut Grove when an unknown man grabbed her from behind, told her he had a knife and raped her. During the investigation, IUPD detectives say they discovered that certain aspects of the report could not be confirmed, and that the woman did not respond to attempts to contact her.
"It was clear to us that there were inconsistencies, that it could not have happened," said IU Police Chief Keith Cash.
Shortly after 5:00 pm Thursday, police say she came to the police department and told investigators that the report was fictitious.
"It is frustrating, but then again, we don't want to discourage anyone from reporting an incident," Cash said.
University officials say they are concerned for the well-being of the student and are providing support and services to her. Some of the students who spoke to Eyewitness News said while they are relieved to hear there isn't a rapist on the loose, that doesn't necessarily mean they feel safer on campus.
"It's good to know it was a false report, but at the same time, it could happen," said one student.
"I think it kind of opened people's eyes. Seeing people running around by themselves," said another. "So maybe this is a wake-up call."
"I think our experience over the years has been that it is a safe environment, a safe city, but that doesn't mean you don't have to pay attention, you don't have to be aware," said Dean of Students Dr. Pete Goldsmith.
The reported rape came at a time when there had been three or four assaults on campus within a few weeks. Those assaults all involved acquaintances, which is why the woman's report of a random attack by a stranger shook the campus.
"I think there needs to be repercussions," said a student.
But rape crisis counselors are less concerned with the "cried wolf" aspect of this case.
"False reporting is such a small number. My concern is with the very large numbers of people who have experienced sexual assault in our community and aren't able to find a group of people who are there for them and believe them," said Tina Cornetta, Crisis Intervention Services coordinator.
The prosecutor is still deciding if false reporting charges will be filed against the girl.
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http://www.wthr.com/story/13607478/iu-student-recants-assault-report
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"But rape crisis counselors are less concerned with the "cried wolf" aspect of this case."
The hell you say.
"False reporting is such a small number. My concern is with the very large numbers of people who have experienced sexual assault in our community and aren't able to find a group of people who are there for them and believe them," said Tina Cornetta, Crisis Intervention Services coordinator."
Yes, let's all ignore the "small number" of false reports we know exist, for the "large numbers" of unreported rapes that might not exist.
"False reporting is such a small number. My concern is with the very large numbers of people who have experienced sexual assault in our community and aren't able to find a group of people who are there for them and believe them," said Tina Cornetta, Crisis Intervention Services coordinator.
TRANSLATION:
We need people to believe that false accusations are rare, and that only 1 out of every 10 rapes go reported. Why? This installs fear and excessive concern in people - and makes them tempted to donate money and pay may salary!
My name is Tina Cornetta, and I am a sociopath.
"University officials say they are concerned for the well-being of the student and are providing support and services to her."
Hum, yet another college student making an FRA in that time window between mid-terms and finals. [as a long-time follower of the FRS, I believe I’ve noticed a distinct trend in such FRA, especaily during the fall college term]
Of course, as has been in every one of these instances of a college student making an FRA during that select time period, this is just my speculation, but, for the record, I repeat it:
The services alluded to quite likely include a provision for the student completing course work outside of the normal grade-competitive mode. More specifically, as I have been made aware of, at other colleges, for student victims of violent crimes (and, even some not so violent, but which could be disruptive to the students ability to perform academically), a provision exists which allows them to switch to a “pass/fail” option for completing their classes. I’d also guess, that if the situation where deemed to be so damaging to the students ability to perform, they might even allow that student to withdraw for the courses, and retake them at no additional cost or penalty to GPA.
[Again, just so there will be no misunderstanding, it this case, I am speculating. But, my speculation in based on knowledge of other cases in which student victims were allowed to complete course work with the assumption that their academic performance would be compromised.]
As I have proffered before (usually this same time of year, when a rash of FRA’s are made of college students), what I believe to be happening is that young women [I’d bet most are freshman] find themselves facing grade difficulties due to their choices to “party-first, study later”.
While schools do not publish information as to the exact nature of the special dispensation that they will provide for students who become victims during the academic term, I suspect that word gets around that if one appeals to the Dean of Student Affairs as the victim of a crime, that student can get out be scored against their fellow students.
And, of course, as is well known to those who are familiar with et FRA issue, the “Cry Rape” card has long served women as a “get out of anything” fail-safe approach. Thus, it does make some logical sense that a young women, finding her self in a difficult situation vis-à-vis her upcoming, and learning that by claiming to be a “crime victim” she could receive special dispensation, and intuitively knowing that crying rape is an easy-out readily available to women, that a number of such female students would be tempted into making FRA’s. Which, in turn, is why I believe that we see a spike in them during that time period between mid-terms and finals.
{Again, this is all just my personal speculation, and is NOT a reflection of anything ever stated by Pierce Harlan or E. Steven Berkimer. If you have an issue with what I proffered, do not flame the FRS, flame me personally.]
Damned! I see Blogger just ate my comment after posting it for a short time.
"The prosecutor is still deciding if false reporting charges will be filed against the girl."
What's stopping them? Are false accusations a CRIME that they don't feel ike getting tough on? Would the prosecutor be as confused if the girl were a boy or a man?
Werner,
Let me take a look.
slwerner,
The comment went into the spam folder. Not sure why. The only thing I can surmise, is the number of parenthases and brackets?
There were actually 2 copies of the comment in that folder. I only published one, as they looked the same.
Sounds like the recent Seton Hall case. Any indication that she identified the "rapist" as a black man?
Archivist - "Any indication that she identified the "rapist" as a black man?"
It appears not this time.
"The suspect is described as a white male with an average build, wearing black pants, a black hooded sweatshirt with the hood up, black gloves and had a red IU lanyard hanging out of his pocket." - http://www.wthr.com/story/13456509/jogger-sexual-assualted-at-iu
From the story of the FRA:
"The reported rape came at a time when there had been three or four assaults on campus within a few weeks."
Then, from the original story of the non-existent attack:
"Police say Friday's incident is not isolated, as there have been four similar incidents on campus so far this year."
Seems to me that while they felt compelled to reveal the FRA, the reporter never-the-less sough to mitigate the situation by implying that 4 other attacks had recently happened, when, in fact, it seems that those other instance had been spread out over several months.
Love it when they twist the facts trying to make some (supposed) point.
Submitted that last post a bit too hastily...
Proving my point:
"It has been a busier-than-normal year for IU police. Since the students came back to campus in August, there have been five sexual assaults reported." - http://www.wthr.com/story/13463167/iu-police-step-up-patrols-after-4th-sex-assault-reported
Five "reported."
First, why do these five report? Why didn't FRS scare them into not reporting, as another blogger suggested?
Second, what happened to these cases? To say five have been reported sounds like something factual has been reported. What evidence is there for any of the five? All five might have been made up. (I can just hear some of the people who've been criticizing this blog lately, "Oh, I HOPE THEY WERE REAL RAPES! I HOPE FIVE WOMEN WERE REALLY RAPED!")
By the way, I've just done my last comment over at Bart's. A bunch of real sickos over there.
It is a perversion of a legal system that no longer charges false rape accusers, that has fostered and enabled a now "culture of false rape accusations".
American Law enforcement has been told by Gender feminist quackademics, that by "charging false rape accusers, you discourage real victims from coming forward"; and say where are the studies that prove this theory, Cause it seems a little fishy??
One very real consequence of American law enforcement no longer charging false rape accusers, is the enablement of a culture of false rape accusations.
The klu-Klux Klans main tool for "Empowerment" was by convincing the public that black males were raping white women around every corner.
In fact the case of the "scottsborro boys" shows that the American public at that time, was so enthralled in Mass hysteria due to Rape hysteria, that it in took an (outside of the united states force); Russia, to retain a lawyer to protect these boys from a dangerous and violent ""Rape hysteria" that had consumed the American public.
Only the most soundest and objective academic minds can overcome mass hysteria. America is now dominated by Gender feminist who attack (lynche) anyone who steps out or questions their perversion.
S - "It is a perversion of a legal system that no longer charges false rape accusers, that has fostered and enabled a now "culture of false rape accusations"
While it's quite true that the lack of meaningful punishments will certainly be no deterrent to women in making FRA's; the simple fact is that there was NEVER a time when women were routinely charged and punished for making false claims (of any kind). women have always got "P*ssy Passes".
It's not simply a matter of LE not charging them, however, otherwise we'd see a marked drop-off in the number of them in the UK, where women are now being routinely sent to prison for making FRA's.
In order to address the FRA issue, we have to deal with host of problems, not least of which is the way in which women, starting out from the time they are young girls, are taught to view men as but expendable pawns, who lives and livelihoods can be frivolously sacrificed as it benefits or amuses them.
And then we have all the white-knights ready willing and able to do the bidding whenever a woman decides that a man needs to be sacrificed on her behalf. And, it's not just LE, by any stretch (it wasn't police who lynched black men during Antebellum and Jim Crow).
We also will need to change the hearts and minds of those in the media so that they will cease to spread misinformation and hysteria. We even need to get the message out to the general public that woman lie (frequently) about a great many things, including rape, DV, and sexual assault – and that the targeting of accused men without evidence that they have actually committed any crime is just plain wrong – be it if they shun them, or if they take up weapons, and take it upon themselves to enact justice.
LE can not be made the lone “scape goat” in this, or our struggle will have utterly failed.
Axel, they are just clowns who thought they could expose us as Neanderthals with ridicule. The joke was on them.
Usually when I write a brief, opposing counsel at least makes an attempt to respond to my arguments. Here, no attempt was made to answer a single thing we actually wrote. Not one. There was a lot of sarcastic lecturing and even more mischaracterizing of our views.
It is over. If they ever again remind of their existence, I am going to let loose on them.
Mr werner says
"LE can not be made the lone “scape goat” in this, or our struggle will have utterly failed."
S says, you see sir, with all due respect, i believe we will get nowhere until the root of the perversion is corrected.
Yer suggesting changing society will eventually change law enforcement to start holding women and girls "Equally accountable" as men and boys are.
I say they have a constitutional duty to do so, and by not doing so, they are fostering violence that children are now learning from their mothers. 85% of repeat violent offender currently in our prison system came from homes with no fathers or even male role models around at all.
Law enforcement is now fostering a culture of lies, crime and violence by not holding women "equally accountable" under the law for their crimes.
Deviants like Bart will still scream us down with the "manufactured statistics from a now perverted law enforcement that does not hold women equally accountable". Start holding women equally accountable for their crimes, and the "Barts" out there will have no faulty and inflammatory agitation propaganda left to prejudice folks with.
Law enforcement is now fostering a culture of lies, crime and violence by not holding women "equally accountable" under the law for their crimes.
I agree with you on this one Anon.
S - "Law enforcement is now fostering a culture of lies, crime and violence by not holding women "equally accountable" under the law for their crimes."
(Part 1)
Given that you have such a profound misunderstanding of most things, it's not surprising that you continue to believe that the entire FRA issues is the result of the efforts of LE.
The fact is that, love of hate them, and irrespective of of whatever thugs and miscreants may fill the ranks, the role and behaviors of LE are essentially a reflection of what the public at large demands of them.
Convince the public that guns in the hands of citizens is a threat, and you end up with LE targeting guns. Convince then public that drugs and drug dealers are the menace, and you'll get LE into a “War on Drugs”. Same thing if you can successfully portray gangs as a imminent threat. Hell, complaints from residents of a given locale will see speed-traps set up in response to their complaints.
The role of LE is in no small part s reflection of the expectations of ‘We The People”.
Not that facts will be of any use to you, but the fact is that the role LE now plays WRT the “War on Rape” has come about due to the effectiveness which gender-feminism and the SGI had in convincing the public that rape was at epidemic proportions, and women where being victimized left-and-right. At that point LE was (effectively) portrayed as being unsympathetic and disbelieving of woman who were rape victims (they are still portrayed that way, for that matter). The change in the way LE handles rape claims came are the changes in the law that the public demanded.
This is why it IS far more important to change the public perception of the FRA issue than it is to sit in circles and bitch about LE. If we want women charged for making FRA’s, let’s advocate for laws which will allow meaningful felony-level charges for that crime. If you want jury’s to not simply issue “P*ssy Passes” to those charged women, teach people about the pervasiveness of and the frivolous motivations behind FRA’s.
Making empty and completely unexplained demands that LE change everything aren’t going to help anything. Hell, in a good number of cases, they’re getting it right anyhow (I suppose that, as usual, you FAILED to read the lead story?). You’ve never managed anything an approaching a cogent explanation of what it is you think that they should do (just the typical nonsense based on your deeply flawed misunderstanding of how the SGI goes about producing and disseminating their statistics).
(Part 2)
LE isn’t perfect – no, far from. But, they are better than the alternative. If you got your wish, and some magical lawsuit (based on some supposed legal theory that you are unable to articulate) were to stop LE from having any involvement with rape claims, the results would be far worse for men accused (and for men as a class).
[To help you understand what I’m about to address, look up the phrase, “unintended consequences”]
Without LE to turn to, women will simply turn to their friends and families. We’ll see a return to the lynch mobs, who took it upon themselves to seek and extract revenge (remember those lynching you, yourself, keep referring to in your ongoing effort to prove yourself wrong about FRA’s being the result of changes by LE?). Do you really believe that lynch mobs made up of friends and loved ones (and murderous white-knights) are going to pause for even one second to consider if THEIR “victim” is even telling the truth?
And, to make matters worse, if LE stops providing a report of the number of rape claims made to them, then the SGI will simply (gladly, in fact – they probably hate the fact tat their now “stuck” with somewhat objective LE data) turn to other “preferable” sources, which will provide them with greatly inflated numbers from which to generate their statistics.
Your deep, blind, and ill-considered hatred for the police and all things LE makes it extremely unlikely that you’ll be able to stop and consider these extremely likely outcomes of your intended goals. But, I won’t give up on you. I still think there’s some hope for getting you to think rationally, and to use history as for guidance.
She should at least be expelled.
Use history as guidance...Ok hows this?? 40 years ago American law enforcement did not "manufacture faulty and prejudicial statistics".
And Mr Werner, i have no ill will toward law enforcement, just the perversion of U.S law enforcement that is enabling violent women.
S - "Use history as guidance...Ok hows this??"
Um, I thought that this one was obvious enough for you to grasp - alas.
Lesson 1 - All those lynching you keep mentioning - they were happening more than 40 years ago. Seriously. You can even look up this stuff on the net. False rape allegation made then (and, you obviously accept that they were being made then) were not made because of any statistics being put out by anyone WRT rape.
Your pet theory fails to explain them, no doesn't it?
Lesson 2 - The changes which have come about, including the way in which LE responds to rape claims, have come because of a very concerted effort by the emerging SGI to reshape public opinion to believe that rape was epidemic and drastic action was required. They didn't do this by going to LE with their ideas/demands, but rather to the public, who turned to politicians, who then created the legal changes. Your belief that LE simply decided to make and enforce (or not) new laws demonstrates your fundamental misunderstanding of basic U.S. civics.
Lesson 3 (Unintended Consequences) – As one examines history, it becomes clear that when radical changes are implemented in an effort to address a given issue, the net effect is often to make the whole situation much worse. Prohibition giving rise to big time organized crime in the U.S. is but one of many examples. Making recreational drugs illegal producing violent billionaire drug lords another.
The point is to examine history, to see how things actually came about, and to apply the "lessons" of history to form impressions of how ting are likely to play out in the future.
It should also be noted that downing a six-pack does not lead to new and amazing insights, such as revelations of a supposed alliance between feminists and LE to carry out their grand conspiracy to use rape allegations to enslave heterosexual man and conquer the world on behalf of their homosexual bosses.
S - "i have no ill will toward law enforcement"
Really?
You do recall that you have previously stated that you did?
And frankly, such ,well, silly notions about LE and feminist conspiring to use false rape allegations against men to bring down civilization seem possible only from the mind of someone who truly hates police, the way gender feminists of the SGI hate men, and create comparable fantasies about how men use rape to keep all women down.
Is you plan to counter "nuttiness" with even greater "nuttiness"?
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I belive you, that the Gov. is out to get you.
Look at what they are doing to Assange.
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And my posts end up in the spam bin? Nice work, Blogger!
@S:
Why not go ahead and read the lead story above and then formulate a response to THAT story.
I really should just let your over-repeated nonsense go without remark, and just hope that the credibility of the FRS doesn't suffer too much.
But, I have to admit to usually not having enough personal restraint to not respond.
It would be nice if you could at least try to stay on point (or somewhere close). It would help to avoid you and I derailing threads.
You know, when I first saw this, several things went through my mind:
1. If the charge is false, once again, how is it she is a "victim" as stated in the first paragraph?
2. If the rape didn't happen, why would you feel unsafe on campus (unless, of course, you happen to be a man fitting the description she gave).
3. I would like Ms. (I'm sure) Cornetta to point out where, exactly, are these people who can find someone to believe them.
Because it's rather obvious that the police believed this women, in the initial stages of this allegation, and up until they began investigating. And had she named a specific individual, I'm rather certain that there would have been an arrest.
I appreciate your time in defending LE,slwerner.
There is much wisdom in your words.
It is very difficult not to take it personally while under investigation of a rape.
The words of my father came to mind "We have the best government money can buy"
This applies to LE as well.
Had I been wealthier I would have had a better defense and protection from civil rights abuses.
This applies to all crimes not just rape accusations.
Luckily in my case LE did clear my of suspicion and I was never charged.
But the specter of possible
imprisonment changed my attitude forever.
It would help if LE respected the constitutional
protections already upon the books.
My feeling was and is,if the law is lawless,what is a man to do to obtain justice?
While I'm sure LE is doing their very best under pressure,"saying it's your job don't make it right."
'cool hand luke'
-recluse-
Mr Werner, u say law enforcement was not doing the lynchings, but they also were not doing their job by stopping the lynchings.
America is not supposed to be run by mob law, and faulty and inflammatory statistics coming from law enforcement that foment mob rule is unconstitutional.
Gender feminists have "Empowered" themselves on campuses around the country, by keeping campuses in a state of "hysteria".
S - "law enforcement was not doing the lynchings, but they also were not doing their job by stopping the lynchings."
Nice attempt to dodge the real issue of woman making FRA's long before the SGI and VAWA.
Never-the-less LE can not prevent all crimes. They never have been able to do, and they are unlikely to ever be able to do so.
That's why they mostly end up investigating in the aftermath of crimes. That too is their job.
They don't prevent thousands of women from being raped every year. And, there is simply no way that they can (probably not even if 25% of the population were in LE). They do not stop thousands of murders either. It's simply a matter of reality that they also cannot stop thousands of woman from filing false complaints.
Crimes are committed by individuals who chose to do so - rapists, murders, and false accusers alike. They do not now, nor have they ever needed encouragement from or a permissive environment by LE to make their choices to commit their crimes. All that has ever been necessary was their own personal sense that it was in their interests to commit the crime.
Even though there is no permissiveness on the part of LE towards the crime of murder, and even though the penalties are extremely high for those caught committing that crime, there are still MORE murders in the US than there are false rape reports - which, of course, carry mostly insignificant penalties for the perpetrator of that latter crime.
How can you and your weird theories about FRA's coming more-or-less exclusively from the encouragement of LE possibly explain how there are more murders than than there are FRA (which you imagine LE encourage and foster)?
Really, it makes no more sense than the rest of your imagined conspiracy of homosexuals taking over by using the SGI to guide their allies in LE to target innocent men with FRA's.
Seriously, if they wish to target men as class, and patriarchy as a social system, there are many ways to go about it that would be so much more effective.
If I were an evil conspirator bent of achieving those ends, I’d skip messing with the targeted FRA route, which can at best target a few thousand men each year. I’d go straight for something that effects millions of men each year, destroys their lives and families, estranges them from their children, and renders them virtual wages slaves.
What I’d do would be to enact a bunch of highly anti-male, anti-father laws, and set up a kangaroo court system (largely immune from normal legal constraints), all of which combined would serve to encourage women to rip men’s families apart, and ultimately render marriage an untenable risk for most young men.
Oh, wait? What’s that you say? They’ve been at if for decades! And, they been spectacularly successful with that plan!
The Devil Made Me Do It
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In 1706, Ann Putnam Jr. was the only girl to offer an apology for her part in the witch trials. She stood before her church as her apology was read:
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:"I desire to be humbled before God for that sad and humbling providence that befell my father's family in the year about ninety-two; that I, then being in my childhood, should, by such a providence of God, be made an instrument for the accusing of several persons of a grievous crime, whereby their lives were taken away from them, whom, now I have just grounds and good reason to believe they were innocent persons; and that it was a great delusion of Satan that deceived me in that sad time, whereby I justly fear I have been instrumental, with others, though ignorantly and unwittingly, to bring upon myself and this land the guilt of innocent blood; though, what was said or done by me against any person, I can truly and uprightly say, before God and man, I did it not out of any anger, malice, or ill will to any person, for I had no such thing against one of them; but what I did was ignorantly, being deluded by Satan.
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:"And particularly, as I was a chief instrument of accusing Goodwife Nurse and her two sisters, I desire to lie in the dust, and to be humble for it, in that I was a cause, with others, of so sad a calamity to them and their families; for which cause I desire to lie in the dust, and earnestly beg forgiveness of God, and from all those unto whom I have given just cause of sorrow and offense, whose relations were taken away or accused."
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Some historians have speculated that her parents and community elders coerced Ann to accuse those they were feuding with or sought revenge on. Many of the accused had some sort of relationship with the powerful Putnam family.
Mr Werner, the bottom line here is, American law enforcement over the last 40 years has been in the business of (in effect), "manufacturing faulty and inflammatory misinformation" that has constructed a prejudice against the innocent.
I believe that this is beyond the scope of "policing Powers" that the American constitution has given them.
But the truth (in an age of lies and perversion), is like heresy, and the Gender /Raunch community who now dominate American academia will have no part of it.
The the perversion juggernaut marches on.
S - "the bottom line here is, American law enforcement over the last 40 years has been in the business of (in effect), "manufacturing faulty and inflammatory misinformation" that has constructed a prejudice against the innocent.
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No, the bottom line is that you fundamentally misunderstand the whole matter of the creation, manipulation, publication and dissemination of those statistics.
It is NOT members of LE who produce the reports which contain misleading and inflammatory. That's the work of those in the SGI.
And, LE doesn't go around asking women to make rape reports, so they aren't behind the "manufacturing" of those numbers for statistical. The fact is, all they do is pass along a tally of the number of claims reported to them. The guidelines for the UCR are clear as to what they are to do.
As with your case, the police may bungle any given case; yet, they did not create that case. The women who chose to accuse you created that case. All the police did WRT that statistical data point was to inform the USDOJ that your accuser had made a report. The UCR guidelines do not allow them to either prove or disprove the validity of the claim, they are to just report it on a scheduled basis. Thus, unless they can get the accuser to recant (or find over-whelming proof that her allegation is false) before the time comes to report the number of crimes reported to them, that case is going to be a part of their tally. Nothing Unconstituional about it, and well within the reasonable conduct of their operations (local departments can keep their own records for statistical purposes - usually geared towards examining to allocation of time and expenditures), so simply passing along a the numbers for various categories of crime reports isn't some egregious violation of their duties.
Further, the feminists of the SGI would prefer to use their own data if they could. They are "stuck" using LE's because it's at least somewhat objective and definable.
LE data isn't going to tell the story they want told.
Guess who did use LE data?
Eugene Kanin.
Guess who didn't?
Susan Brownmiller.
Now, guess who's "stats" both the gender-feminists and the main-steam media prefer?
Why, Susan Brownmiller's 2 percent canard, of course.
Frankly, I don't know why I keep pointing out the painfully obvious to you. You simply hate LE far too much to ever consider any facts or evidence contrary to you personal pet anti-LE theory.
It's like how I easily and repeatedly gave you links so that you could see for yourself that VAWA grants go primarily to non-LE agencies (typically feminist-run victims advocacy agencies), and that the small percentage award to LE were small amounts which were but a fraction of the costs that LE was promising to take on to be able to qualify for a VAWA grant. You still continued to tell the LIE that LE was "cashing-in" by encouraging FRA's. Your hatred for LE is just to great for you to be rational.
Most anyone who's been around the MRA/Manosphere intuitively understands that while VAWA posed as protection for women, it was really noting more than another vehicle for the net transfer of taxpayer money to feminists.
Despite all the public pronouncements that VAWA was going to provide money to LE to "fight" violence against women, the intent was always to give the majority of that money to women. LE is a male-dominated field. That alone ensured that they would never get more than the scraps.
But, the big promises and fanfare about providing LE the tools to protect women did manger to convince gynocentric women and white-knighting males. It apparently also managed to fool you.
But, seeing as how you hate LE so much, it's little wonder that you were so easily convinced by such obvious BS.
slw, would you please write the definitive post on this issue so we can publish it and put this issue to bed? As a personal favor to me? Please?
Archivist - "would you please write the definitive post on this issue so we can publish it and put this issue to bed?"
Seems like a fair enough request.
I may not be able to do all the research right away, as I'm quite busy with work at the time, but I would like to get a more comprehensive listing of VAWA grants and of the differential application process for those grants (the bar set higher for LE than others). But, I will try to get something together.
I'm just not sure that anyone will listen to me, even if I lay out the documentation. S seems entirely bent on finding a way to put the bulk of the blame for creating FRA's on LE - and seems unwilling to listen to reason.
But, I can try anyway.
Thank you!
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