Due to the recent comment by Teressa, calling the men on this site rapists, comment moderation is now in effect.
I will NOT put up with that kind of comment, from anyone. PERIOD.
My apologies for the inconvenience, but garbage such as her comment, will no longer be tolerated in any way, shape or form.
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The problem with her is the same problem with most rape-hype feminists out there. It's like they're in a fenced-in backyard and all they can see is what is in that environment. They need to climb up and peek over the fence to see what else is out there besides themselves.
Otherwise, they'll continue to have no self-awareness.
The glasses that they see life out of is just one color.
I am sorry to hear it has come to this, but I think you made the right choice.
Teressa I invite you to read, The Hofstra False Rape Case and see how FRA are getting away with their crimes.
A FRA could happen to a loved one that you know such as you brother, father, nephew, cousin or son.
It was a matter of time, of course. I'm surprised it took this long.
I am a woman. I haven't raped anyone, Teressa.
I have been horrifically attacked in other forums for attempting to write about the false accusation of a loved one.
There isn't much sympathy for this particular truth out there. It reminds me of the hatred and venom showed toward "N*##&% lovers" when I was a kid growing up in the segregated South.
Funny, it's done by the same instigators -women claiming the need for protection, and the fops and fools who accomodate them.
It does no good to tell Teressa "this could happen to someone YOU love one day", because Teressa loves no man. No human being with any sense of morality would say such a thing.
I am sorry such a pinworm has befouled an otherwise lively and open discussion board.
But it happened.
Congratualtions, Teressa.
Thank you anon. Teressa, and bart, and those that agree with them, understand exactly what kind of nuclear option a false rape accusation is, and they really don't want to do a thing about it, as it is only a form of payback for all the historical wrongs the patriarchy has done to women.
This isn't a zero sum game. Rape makes me nauseous, and rapists deserve all the scorn we can muster. But false accusers give me the same reaction.
And so, her I am. The difference that those idiots don't want to deal with, is that there is NO kind of support network for people who have been falsely accused. And there are how many rape crisis centers in the united states alone?
The level of misandry required, to minimize those falsely accused, is astounding. And to call us "rape apologists" or just flat out call us "rapists", is disgusting. But then, so is Teressa/quirkytizzy.
No one is arguing that false rape accusations are bad.
We are arguing that we don't believe "most" rape accusations are false, that we think "psychological coercion" that leads to sex is rape and that the site, while probably well intended has attracted a lot of really sketchy people.
If there were not comments here, for example, about how false rape accusations are part of some plot to have homosexual overlords rule over a heterosexual male working class you'd get a different kind of reaction. There were not comments here saying "women shouldn't drink" and that if they do then they can't claim rape you'd get a different reaction.
But, the vast majority of comments on the site (unlike the posts themselves) are of that nature, leading me to believe that your blog has - no matter how well intentioned it is - attracted a fair number of rape apologists and/or men who have an interest in seeing fewer rapes reported.
@ Steven
You know, this is one thing I can now say, now that my lips are slowly being unsealed...
I was accused of coercion from a position of power, I was accused of not listening to stated refusal to consent, I was accused of irreparably damaging human lives.
The rich irony is that the only person who suffered these things was me, the falsely accused man.
I'm not a saint, far from it, but in my defence I only wallowed in the gutter with those who chose, eagerly, to share the gutter with me....... but you just know something is dreadfully wrong with the world when someone like me can, with reason, look down upon everyone else in the court room apart from the usher and clerk, and know that I would never lower myself to their level.
Not one of them was even the least bit concerned, either about these abuses clogging up the system and costing the taxpayer thousands, or about serving justice.
On the contrary, in recess most of them were complaining about the economic recession causing more and more couples to just put up with each other and co-habit, instead of going to court and ending up with half the negative equity each.
This is was first experience of "family" lawyers, for the first time I understand all the "Shark" jokes.
Yeah, too bad it had to come to this.
The word "rape" is the rape-hysteria-monger's ticket to power.
Thus it should come as no surprise to see it applied indiscriminately, and for the shrill reaction when such application is questioned.
I am not sure I like this moderation. I don't want this to turn into one of those hyper-feminist blogs where any dissent is squished.
Let the idiots run their mouth, I think we can take them on.
-zarko
AfOR/EW/Zarko,
Thanks for stopping by. I'll turn comments without moderation back on.
What I find strange, is that they things that Teressa specifically stated, are the same kind of things that are given "Trigger" warnings at those same feminist/rape support blogs, and I would imagine she wouldn't make those kinds of statements there. That she would make them here, shows just how little value she places on those falsely accused of rape/sexual assault.
But, after looking at it, EW is right. This was about getting a reaction, and they got what they wanted (I guess). So Bart (or whatever the hell your name is), Teressa, and any others who decide to stop by, Pierce and I will not respond to you again. If any of our readers decide to do so, we won't moderate them (or you).
We still have a comment policy, which I shall be updating shortly, so please adhere to it.
@ bart,
"If there were not comments here, for example, about how false rape accusations are part of some plot to have homosexual overlords rule over a heterosexual male working class you'd get a different kind of reaction."
That's one guy in particular, who says that. People have complained about him before. I don't think anyone else here actually agrees with him, but as far as I know he is a falsely accused, hence entitled to post.
For what it's worth, I think this is one blog that would benefit from some comment moderation. I was not upset to see it applied, as the trolls can sometimes be 'triggering' as a feminist might say.
Not that I mind either way - but you do have my support if you choose to moderate.
Bart particularly mention me and my rant about "Gender/ Raunch Empowerment" (not by extolling the virtues of their sexual preferences); but by attacking heterosexual males..cause he senses their is some truth to what Im saying and it bothers him.
So was it her comment in the Bart thread or some other comment that was deleted? Inquiring minds want to know :)
witman,
It was her comment that the men and women here are rapists.
Perhaps Pierce and I have been a bit too lax with the moderation, but from this point forward, we will enforce our comment policy. Personal attacks will be removed. I don't care who makes them. Attack the idea(s), but don't attack the person. This will apply to everyone.
My last word on the subject. I remember literally finding more common ground with even Abyss2Hope on the issue of consent than I can find with these hateful people!
". . . we don't believe "most" rape accusations are false . . . ." I'll stick with the conclusion of the feminist legal scholar. Nobody knows the number. KC Johnson doesn't know the number. Alan Dershowitz doesn't know the number. But you do? Great. Anybody who claims they know the number is either grossly ill-informed or a liar. In any event, it astounds me that these people must "win" the Oppression Olympics. Why is this a zero sum game to these people? I have many times expressed my view that I wish there was ONE site that dealt with all the issues, and that treated rape and false rape claims as worthy of our advocacy. There are hundreds of sites that treat rape seriously; one dedicated to giving voice to the falsely accused. I guess one is too many for those awful people.
". . .we think 'psychological coercion' that leads to sex is rape . . . ." Sigh. Any conduct that precludes meaningful choice is sufficient to negate the valid consent necessary for lawful sex. It's called duress. But "psychological coercion" is too vague, too nebulous, too amorphous to provide guidance and pass due process muster. It includes actual duress, but it also could include cajoling someone for sex. The latter is rude and impolite and may be a good indication that the person is not an appropriate partner, but it doesn't negate the ability to choose. Rape is a legal concept, defined by statute. What I "believe" or what Bart "believes" is beside the point. Personally, I believe the hook-up and free love cultures we find ourselves trapped in breed all sorts of hurt and engender all manner of immaturity in personal relationships. We need to do a much better job teaching our young people what consent means, that women experience much greater ex post facto feelings of regret than men, and that men and women are often looking for different things in relationships. But a teen guy who "pressures" his girlfriend into consenting to sex by saying something like "you'd do it if you loved me" isn't rape. She can, and should, say "no." She can, and should, cut off the relationship. He's obviously too immature to be in a committed relationship. But to call that "rape" trivializes actual rape where the woman hasn't consented, and it treats women as infants incapable of making a difficult choice. We can't empower our daughters by pretending they are powerless. By the same token, we should never encourage our sons to engage in such immature behavior by chalking it up to "boys will be boys."
As for women drinking: it's their right. No rape is excused by women drinking. It might be stupid, but rape is rape.
I have no further response for the hate-mongers. If they'd like to learn something about the subject, they should spend a couple of months reading through the real life news stories we report here on a daily basis.
We have long not moderated comments. I deferred to Steve on this question yesterday, and he said we are going to take an aggressive stance. I am starting to eliminate comments that don't pass muster per our Comments Policy. I will be deleting comments that make idiotic claims about homosexuals and law enforcement conspiracies. I also will not allow comments from people who have publicly called us "rape apologists."
Two comments: First, anyone who thinks that the comments under Washington Post stories are reflective of the Post must an idiot. Somehow this is different because . . . well, it just is. Take Bart's word for it.
Second, to say that "statements like 'most rape accusations are fiction' and 'if you don't want to be raped don't drink'" aren't challenged is to ignore THE ACTUAL POSTS WRITTEN BY THE BLOG OWNERS.
Please go troll somewhere else.
Four comments have been deleted from this thread. If we find it overwhelming to moderate, we'll just do away with comments altogether.
Although I agree that a woman drinking is not an excuse to rape, I'd like to ask your stance on two drunk people copulating. Are they both rapists?
I recommend moderating comments.
The power of the rape accusation is one that the feminazi's are not willing to surrender no matter how disingenuous it may be.
People such as bart and theresa will destroy this site if you let them.
This is your intellectual property, I suggest you defend it.
-recluse-
Witman:
You've hit upon the elephant in the room: why should she be considered a "victim" when a young couple drinks to mutual excess -- which is common -- and then mutually decides, in their mutually reduced state of consciousness, to have sex? In that scenario, he's every bit as much a "victim" as she is. And, no, I don't think they both should be charged with rape: the mutuality of their stupidity cancels out whatever shared criminality exists. Women and men frequently drink to lower their inhibitions precisely so they will engage in intercourse. To pretend otherwise is to toss eons of accumulated knowledge about gender relations onto a scrapheap of politicized indifference.
An excellent answer. I shall return for I have a 19 year old son who I have sworn a duty to and debunking false allegations of rape is one of my duties to him.
At least you have the ability to delete such comments.
I created the www.falserape.net website and five years ago, a group including police conspired to alter, impede, intimidate, harass, create fear,and terrorize me, so as to affect my privileges and rights protected. By the time I realized this, it was too late.
They are angry at me because of the website and the have altered,fabricated or modified things related to my life to keep me under surveillance.
One rape it too many. One false accusation of rape is too many.
Does that mean that our goverment should violate my rights because I express this opinion?? Or that others, because they disagree with this view should insult and call names? It's just not necessary.
It's possible that an exchange of ones view can educate, but under such hostile circumstance the meaning will be lost.
Sorry Archivist, i get itchy at times to attack those i feel have institutionalized an attack on me and my pals.
I will again temper my tirades to fit a more moderate readership.
Thank you again for you're sustained and unfaltering efforts here.
I tend to agree with others that comment moderation should be considered if it is really necessary, and you should not apologize for it. Although it may inconvenience some of us here, it is far more important that the integrity of the site and the cause is preserved.
There are a lot of people out there extremely threatened by what is being uncovered here, and it wouldn't surprise me if there were even greater attempts to bring this site down through flames, spam, viruses etc.
For the record, I do believe that the majority of reported rape allegations are false. (Given how many studies have found that around 40 to 50% of rape allegations are false, i.e. Kanin. And given that these figures typically only count the cases that were clearly shown to be false, not the cases that may or may not have been false, they are most likely underestimating those percentages. And given the likely fact that false claims have increased in recent years, judging by the amount of cases uncovered here).
This does not mean that false allegations are more common than actual rapes. I am sure there are substantially more actual rapes than false allegations. Yet because most rapes are not reported, the reported rapes are likely skewed towards false allegations. (And in some senses it is easier for women to make vindictive claims than it is for a woman to actually relive the horror of a real crime and violation. i.e. the type of woman who is more inclined to make a false allegation is likely to have less difficulty in coming forward than the woman who may be a genuine victim but doesn't want to talk about it).
I do happen to agree that rape is likely a significantly under-reported crime, and I have no doubt that many women who are raped would rather just forget it, pretend it didn't happen, or just don't want to talk about it. (I know that others here are weary of this, as it is too often used as an excuse for even more measures to stack the system against accused men. But some things remain true, however much they may be misused by others to further their own agendas).
Just to echo Pierce's sentiments, I agree that it is unfortunate that there cannot be more common ground between those who support rape victims and those who support the falsely accused.
The truth is that most radical feminists don't really care about issues like rape so much as they simply want to create as much division between the sexes as possible and further their own influence (perhaps because they never had happy relationships, they wish to ruin those of others out of spite). "Rape" is simply a convenient emotive issue to instill fear in women, shame men, and get people's attention. As Teressa shows, you don't have to have a reasoned view on anything. Just shout "rape", "rape apologist", "did you hear me! I said rape!".
By the way, as is now apparent, I changed my mind about "one last word." See new post on Bart Calendar. Bart and Teressa will not be permitted to respond because (1) they can't, and (2) we've heard enough of their blather already.
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falserape.net
I belive you, that the Gov. is out to get you.
Look at what they are doing to Assange.
Archivist:
"I remember literally finding more common ground with even Abyss2Hope on the issue of consent than I can find with these hateful people!"
Get the F***over yourself. You are NOT in Abyss2Hope's league.
You can deal with someone on your level like Bart ... he's narrow minded and so are you. And what is it with all this "hate"? Bart is no more hateful than the FRS. Point is, you both keep winding up back on the drawing board together cuz you never make a lick of sense.
Example -- somebody asked an excellent question yesterday, but not a single FRS "expert" bothered to repond. LET'S SEE SOME MEAT!!
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