Thursday, December 9, 2010

The absurdity of thinking men and women are interchangeable

(CNN)  Tom Shayles, executive editor of Brides Magazine, said he resents the fact that the 40 billion dollar per year wedding industry "continues to worship at the altar of the 21 to 29-year-old female."

What is your reaction to the above quote?  Did you find it goofy?  I would think so, because, of course the wedding industry worships at the altar of young women. That's who drives it.

OK, that quote was made up to make a point. Let us be perfectly honest: no rational person would ever make a statement like that, because that concern isn't on anyone's radar.

But what's your reaction to this one:

Helen Mirren resents that "Hollywood filmmaking . . . continues to worship at the altar of the 18 to 25-year-old male and his penis. Quite small, I always think.”

That's a real quote. It's every bit as goofy as the one about the wedding industry. Hollywood producers have a slobbering crush on young men because young men drive the movie industry. Everybody knows that. (Nice of Ms. Mirren to mention the penises -- because, I mean, young men are defined by their penises -- not their brains, or their good deeds, or their hard work. They are just virile masses of testosterone plotting where they can next stick their penises, no better than rutting animals.)

So why is it somehow "OK" for the wedding industry to be female driven -- nobody would ever question that -- but it's "wrong," and worthy of protest, for the movie industry to be male-driven? 

Why is it OK for colleges to be pink ghettos but it's wrong when more men than women want to play competitive sports in college?

Why is it OK for college liberal arts departments to be dominated by women but it's wrong for science and engineering departments to be dominated by men?

Do you see what's going on here?  Men and women merely have different interests when women dominate a field; but for any field dominated by men, it must be due to discrimination. And misogyny.  And patriarchy.

Because men and women are different. Except when they are the same.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

That pretty much sums it up. Title IX and all the rest.

namae nanka said...

She plays Prospero in movie Tempest based on Shakespeare's play, a man's role.
Maybe she's getting her ideas from there?

Anonymous said...

Imagine if a male actor made comments like that about young women. He'd be finished in Hollywood.

Snark said...

Thought you might like to see this

http://theantifeminist.com/swedish-dad-on-swedish-justice-system/

"Over 5000 men , while only 294 women are serving jailtime( KVV 2009). The Swedish government are jailing men for violence or sex crimes against women and children without any proof at all. One member of the supreme court has stated publicly that “If we can keep the number of innocent that are convicted under 500 a year, we should be happy”. This would mean that over a 1000 men (one fifth) of all imprisoned men are innocently locked up at the moment."

Archivist said...

When I first started FRS, I used to report stories out of India. We still do once in a while, but that legal system and culture are so foreign to me that I gave up bothering to try to discuss it. I am starting to feel the same about Sweden. What I am hearing is simply bizarre, and I'd love to hear from someone familiar with the system who doesn't have a bias.

Anonymous said...

Great post! False rape is a serious issue, but posts like this are what keep me visiting this site every day.

sharpc said...

Imagine if a public figure said this:

Tom Shayles, executive editor of Brides Magazine, said he resents the fact that the 40 billion dollar per year wedding industry "continues to worship at the altar of the 21 to 29-year-old female and her clit. Quite ugly, I usually think."

Vulgar isn't it? Of course the equivalent would be vagina but clit has a better effect. I couldn't imagine anyone saying that in a million years, nor would I want them to. I like clitori. It's just an example of the many double standards, and the mocking of men and talking about them about as if they're absolute shit.

Archivist said...

Excellent point, Sharpc.

A famous actress is given complete license to mock the male organ of copulation as if it were a ridiculous thing -- as if young men themselves were ridiculous creatures, and we are forced to tolerate this derision as if it contained even a shred of validity because, apparently, males, as a class, and every last one of us, are so very privileged, and so very selfish. And finally, when some men stand up and call bullshit for what it is, they heap more derision on us and say we're whiners.

Just wait, ladies. You don't know what "whining" is. We're just getting started with our "whining." Before we are through, our whines will be like roars, and men shall be men again. And you will have no choice but to respect them.

Archivist said...

P.S.Sharpc -- I am going to do what you suggested I do earlier today in your comment on Spearhead. I communicated with the owner, and we're all set. You get the credit for it.

Anonymous said...

What You Should Do If your Wife or Girlfriend Threatens to Call the Police and Make False Allegations

http://www.shrink4men.com/2010/12/09/what-you-should-do-if-your-wife-or-girlfriend-threatens-to-call-the-police-and-make-false-allegations/

sharpc said...

Archivist that's great news about the Spearhead. Wow, I didn't think my little comment would mean anything.

You've written many quality articles on this blog, like the one about the Titanic awhile ago among many others, that I feel deserve more readers. Your stuff fits right in with the Spearhead. That was why I made the comment. The comment section does get a little shaky at times, but that's the internet, as you know.

Anyway, glad to hear it.

deedee said...

my point would be that everybody has or should have the freedom to choose their own place in the world, for that the place you hold in society or your personal relationships should be based on your individual capacity for that role, which cannot be tied to your gender assignment. we no longer live in a society where you can predict what someone can achieve based on their sex and therefore it is illogical and impractical to continue to insist that we try.

Anonymous said...

"my point would be that everybody has or should have the freedom to choose their own place in the world, for that the place you hold in society or your personal relationships should be based on your individual capacity for that role, which cannot be tied to your gender assignment. we no longer live in a society where you can predict what someone can achieve based on their sex and therefore it is illogical and impractical to continue to insist that we try."

You're right. Women are just as good at peeing standing up,lifting over 200 pounds of weight,and advanced mathematics,and men are just as good at gestating children,breastfeeding them, and vajazzling their vaginas.

Our society has moved beyond stuff like men's supposedly "superior" musculature structure that enables them to lift more, being composed,it is said of less fat than women's bodies, and women's ALLEGED "uteri" and "ovaries" which are supposed to be some kind of organs that "only women are born with".

There is absolutely no difference of any
kind between men and women. The biology books are completely wrong,when I was growing up, they fed me a line of propaganda about how men insert their penises into women's vaginas and deposit "sperm" there which fertilizes a woman's egg in order to create a zygote in the woman.

They should be corrected to reflect the truth,namely that men stick THEIR penises into the "penises" of OTHER long-haired, facial-hairless "men" (it's always rape when this happens,of course,because the first group of men is different from the second,despite being exactly the same in every way) and then a baby falls out of the sky 9 months later, because these other "men" are biologically no different from the first group of men.


"we no longer live in a society where you can predict what someone can achieve based on their sex and therefore it is illogical and impractical to continue to insist that we try."

Ok,well in that case you should be able to find just as many grandmasters of chess that are female as you do male. Go ahead and try, we'll attempt to keep down the giggles.

Anonymous said...

Deedee,

Let's you and me beat feet down to the nearest post office and sign up for selective service.

Let's be the First Women to make the Oprah show for having the COURAGE to risk imprisonment and hefty, hefty fines for doing what our brethern are forced, ah, allowed to do on their 18th birthdays.

I'm serious about this, but I'm not doing it alone.

Forward Archivist your name and location an I will set up a time and camera crew for us to assert our God Given rights to equality.

Yours in sisterhood,

Lisa

Anonymous said...

"Over 5000 men , while only 294 women are serving jailtime( KVV 2009). The Swedish government are jailing men for violence or sex crimes against women and children without any proof at all. One member of the supreme court has stated publicly that “If we can keep the number of innocent that are convicted under 500 a year, we should be happy”. This would mean that over a 1000 men (one fifth) of all imprisoned men are innocently locked up at the moment



How is this so different from the American Justice System?