Off topic, in a sense, but I found it interesting that Mr. Brown was acquitted. Regardless of the fact that they showed fake ID's. Because it showed HIS state of mind and good faith belief, the court actually did the right thing.
REGINA — A Regina man who picked up two underage teens for sex was acquitted Thursday after Court of Queen's Bench Justice Ellen Gunn accepted the accused's testimony that the girls showed him fake IDs.
"I find as a fact that they told him they were 18 or over," Gunn said in finding Ricardo Brown, 34, not guilty. "I further find . . . the accused asked them to produce photo identification as proof of their age, and that they produced false identification."
Brown, 34, was acquitted of two counts of sexual assault, two counts of obtaining sexual services from a person under age 18, and one count of invitation to sexual touching.
Court had heard the two girls were 14 at the time of the incident in 2009. Brown never denied engaging in sexual activities with the teens; rather the case turned on how old he believed they were, and what he did to back up that belief.
Link:
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Girls+lied+about+Regina+acquitted+charges/3852053/story.html
REGINA — A Regina man who picked up two underage teens for sex was acquitted Thursday after Court of Queen's Bench Justice Ellen Gunn accepted the accused's testimony that the girls showed him fake IDs.
"I find as a fact that they told him they were 18 or over," Gunn said in finding Ricardo Brown, 34, not guilty. "I further find . . . the accused asked them to produce photo identification as proof of their age, and that they produced false identification."
Brown, 34, was acquitted of two counts of sexual assault, two counts of obtaining sexual services from a person under age 18, and one count of invitation to sexual touching.
Court had heard the two girls were 14 at the time of the incident in 2009. Brown never denied engaging in sexual activities with the teens; rather the case turned on how old he believed they were, and what he did to back up that belief.
Link:
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Girls+lied+about+Regina+acquitted+charges/3852053/story.html
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Doesn't anybody other than me think it's odd that a grown man over the age of 18 can have sex with a woman and if she is not over the age of 18, he is liable to punishment. Shouldn't she be?
I think my comments here and on other threads are being deleted. Is this deliberate?
Canadian law must be different than American law. In American law having sex with an minor is a strict liability crime. That is, diligence or reasonable belief is not a defense to the charge. She can admit on the stand that she showed you a fake ID and you're still guilty.
Elly,
Nothing in the awaiting posting or spam folders. And I know I didn't delete anything. Blogger has been having issues lately with comments disappearing.
Gender / Raunch does not attack all men equally, they just target the heterosexuals.
What happens to a society when most of the heterosexual males are purged from state and federal positions, and the only ones left in state and federal positions are women and homosexuals??
We now might be the nation with the highest percentages of women and homosexuals to fill government funded positions; that the world has seen in thousands of years.
Heterosexual males no longer feel welcome in the "hostile to heterosexual male" environments that now dominate American bureaucracies, just as heterosexual males feel the hostile environment in universities.
Gender feminists talk about ??equality???, but when white women, and white homosexual males make up 70% of all state and federal pork jobs...IS THIS EQUALITY???
The Gender / Raunch community have become the superpower that they are now; by attacking heterosexual males with faulty and inflammatory "manufactured statistics".
The American law enforcement who have been "manufacturing" this "Empowerment rhetoric" for the neo Gender feminist community, have crossed some very real constitutional boundaries in doing so.
Soon you will not be able to get a state or federal job unless you are a women or a white male homosexual..This is Gender / raunchs perverted interpretation of ??Equality??.
Now I'm not so sure I'll believe either sex when it comes to sexual crimes. I'm thoroughly disgusted when young girls look for sexual encounters and then they run to the law because they're ashamed of their freely made choices.
I hope those girls face jail time they need it for pretending to be adult women.
I agree, randian. No way in the good 'ol USA would a man be aquitted under these circumstances.
I know a guy today who has been in sex offender therapy for for 9 years after having sex with a "woman" he met drinking in a bar one night who turned out to be...thirteen, with a fake ID.
He will be sent to prison next year for non compliance with sex offender treatment, after the funding runs out.
THAT'S the American way.
Nov 23, 2010 8:59:00 AM
Crazy crap like this diminishes the credibility of this blog.
E Steven Berkimer, thank you for your 8:11. It happened again a few minutes ago. I'm thinking it might be another administrator called Archivist.
Hi Elly!
"I'm thinking it might be another administrator called Archivist."
If it is, he's smart!
at 6:52, how many people do you want to get rid of?
Archivist - who is Pierce, didn't delete either. After talking with several other blog owners who use blogger, they have had the same problem. This is a bug that they are looking at.
It's got to be a pretty vile comment for us to intentionally delete it.
Randian, you're wrong. Under the Due Process clause of the 14th Amendment, a person cannot be charged without Fair Warning that he is committing a crime-- and if he is shown an ID which a reasonable person would believe is real, then he is denied this Fair Warning, since the state law requires people to honor such ID's if they appear valid, and cannot expect them to be mind-readers. There is no such thing as a "strict liability" criminal offense which abrogates a person's Due Process rights.
Randian, you're wrong. Under the Due Process clause of the 14th Amendment, a person cannot be charged without Fair Warning that he is committing a crime-- and if he is shown an ID which a reasonable person would believe is real, then he is denied this Fair Warning, since the state law requires people to honor such ID's if they appear valid, and cannot expect them to be mind-readers. There is no such thing as a "strict liability" criminal offense which abrogates a person's federal Due Process rights, since these are supreme over any other law.
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