Saturday, November 27, 2010

Feminists berate Hollywood for portraying women as helpless victims, but insist that is what women are in the bedroom

Ever notice that when the subject of Hollywood comes up, every feminist becomes a film industry marketing guru?  They are quick to insist that the motion picture industry would better prosper if producers, who are overwhelmingly male, stopped pumping out more of the same fare that, they say, promotes traditional gender roles and reinforces patriarchal stereotypes.

They bemoan films with clever and adventurous male leads and passive female eye candy. Women, they insist, should not be portrayed as helpless pawns, waiting to be rescued by the handsome prince; women should be given roles where they are doers, not victims -- where they can throw punches, kick male butt, crush testicles, and overwhelm evil.  If only there were more female -- you fill in the blank here -- directors/leading roles/Hollywood power brokers, films not only would do bigger box office but also provide worthy role models for our daughters. 

You see, Hollywood producers need the feminists to save them from their testosterone-induced myopia and to more accurately portray reality in their films.
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Now, on the other hand, when the subject of alleged date rape comes up, all of those lofty empowering sentiments go sailing out the window.  Anyone who dares to suggest that women who freely choose to drink and have sex are anything other than passive and helpless pawns, anyone who has the temerity to suggest that alcohol laden women are free moral agents capable of making decisions for themselves, is a misogynist and a rape apologist.  In the bedroom, women are not doers but victims --damsels in distress more helpless than the most passive Disney princess.

When it comes to the subject of so-called date rape, feminists don't just wallow in victimhood, they splash, leap and cavort in it.

And, no, I am not excusing rapists of their crimes, even a little.  But there's a hell of a difference between the guy who slips a roofie in his date's drink and the couple that mutually drinks to excess and mutually decides, in their mutually reduced state of consciousness, to have sex.  The roofie scenario is as rare as the latter scenario is common. 

The fact is, far too many young women regard alcohol as a magic elixir that not only lowers their inhibitions but absolves them of personal responsibility for whatever they freely choose to do.  Men are afforded no such absolution even when women are the instigators, and too often, must carry the brand of "rapist" for the rest of their lives for decisions women freely made.

Instead of bellyaching that the entertainment industry unfairly portrays women as helpless pawns, feminists would do well to teach young women that they need to change that perception, and that
they aren't empowered by pretending they are powerless.

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

Amen, brother. Amen. And well said.

Anonymous said...

This article should be sent to every college woman in America.

Anonymous said...

Well, although the second part of the argument is the bread and butter of this (and many other, similar sites about personal freedoms), I would have to say one thing.

There is nothing wrong with a woman kicking butt and such. Actually, it's kind of hot. But that might be just me. Too bad there's so few movies like that, which are any good, but whatever.

And there's a few leading female directors/producers. In fact, the biggest movie ever by a female director/producer recently won best movie. It was about 3 guys disarming bombs.

My point is that the first part is perfectly acceptable in the realm of feminism.

The second part is simply criminal.
-zarko

AfOR said...

I used to live in which has been a major holiday destination for the 18-33 crowd for the past 30 years.

The guys there acted the same way they did in the UK, but revved up a bit, longer hours, more booze, more partying, you get the picture.

The girls there acted like they had been released from prison after a 20 stretch and had 4 weeks to live, utterly, utterly, utterly different to how they acted back home.

The result of this was that a large proportion of the guys used to drink themselves into oblivion and pass out.

The girls would and did fuck anything and everything.

As a guy actually living there, "a different chick every night" doesn't even come close, three in a bed, four in a bed, do it twice a day if you actually had the stamina.... I had a physically hard day job to do and life to lead (mundane stuff like shopping, laundry, going to the barbers) and so it was basically a question of stamina, that and the chocolate shop syndrome, no need to pig out and make yourself sick, because another 5 or 6 airplanes full were landing every day...

I did not chat ANY of these women up, by dint of being sober enough to maintain an erection all you had to do was wander into some place, smile at all the girls and say hi to the barman and order a beer.

"Women" as a group (as opposed to a single woman as an individual) are and always have been in competition to get the semen.

You can talk intellect and mores and rights and equality and everything else you like, but NONE OF THESE FACTORS ARE EVER EVIDENT IN A REAL LIFE SITUATION... and THAT is all that matters.

Anonymous said...

Speaking as a woman, drinking DID free me up to do what I REALLY wanted to do.

In MY case, as a sober woman, I was always "nice" and never wanted to hurt anyone's feelings. With a few drinks in me, I could and would "just say no" without apology or sparing anyone's feelings.

Because that is what I REAlly wanted to do.

Women who willingly drink to oblivion in a mutually agreed situation (as in on a date, at a party, in a dorm room)and willingly agree to sex - no matter how besotted they may be - do so because they WANT to.

NObody gets drunk and does stuff they really and truly wouldn't have wanted to do sober. I don't care what ANYone says - you don't do something drunk yuo didn't want to do in your heart of hearts sober.

Nobody gets drunk and murders their Grandmother. Or rapes their Grandmother, for that matter. Unless it was something they wanted to do sober, that is.

I NEVER buy the "I was drunk and didn't know what I was doing" bit.

I never buy it.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
This article should be sent to every college woman in America



Every college women in America already knows this.

Snark said...

"Date rape doesn't usually refer to drunk consenting sex. It usually refers to a man raping a woman who has actually said no..."

Simply amazing that you would come HERE and say THIS.

A feminazi open to misandry said...

Guys, guys, it's all okay. You see, 'rape' refers to those times when men force women to have sex, but not to all those times that men and women both consent to sex then she falsely accuses him.

So, like, what are you guys even complaining about?

Archivist said...

Snark, I already deleted the feminist who made that comment but you are always free to comment on anything here.

Snark said...

LOL! I just noticed the comment is gone.

Good work, I wouldn't have bothered responding to it if I knew!

It's the best way to deal with these pests ... particularly this turd who styles herself 'open to criticism' then deletes all criticism from her comments. LOL.

Anonymous said...

Hi Elly!

Your false 'Greek Fraternity Rape Culture' phobia you possess can be defeated over time with therapy.

Seek help now.

Anonymous said...

Nov 28, 2010 12:03:00 PM

"So, like, what are you guys even complaining about?"

Ignorant people like you.

Ulysses said...

AfOR:
>> The result of this was that a large proportion of the guys used to drink themselves into oblivion and pass out.

The girls would and did fuck anything and everything. <<

Does this mean what I think it means? If it does, please share. The world needs to know the full extent of their hypocrisy in no uncertain terms.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy of feminism. The so called champions of women's right have done more to infantilize women than any so called Patriarchy could imagine.

Snark said...

""So, like, what are you guys even complaining about?"

Ignorant people like you."

Heh, that was me, doing an impression of the comment that got deleted. Well, not so much an impression as phrasing what she said in a different way. But it was most certainly ignorant, you're right there.

Anzu said...

Oh boy, if it isn't one thing it's another with these nagging shrill femiharpies!

I remember in the 80's there was Ripley from Aliens and She-Ra Princess of Power and in the 90s there was Xena Warrior Princess and Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

What are these Feminists whining about.

Kim Possible and Penny from the Proud Family who are resourceful and capable Heroines.

These academic shrill Feminists need to get out more. Television and Cinema have been portraying Action Heroines for some time and even as far back as the 70s.

Anonymous said...

Why does Archivist apply the adjective "innocent" to young men only? As you know, that's a crock. Young women are just as innocent.

Your advice for women to take "minimal precautions". Expound?

Archivist said...

"Young women are just as innocent."

In the context I am referencing, not necessarily. When a session of mutual drinking and sex leads to a false rape claim, there is only one innocent party.

Sorry that someone else doesn't like when we delete posts. We can't monitor every comment every day, but when we notice one that runs afoul of our comment policy, we delete it. We've actually discussed ditching comments altogether.

Archivist said...

Note to Erin: you are sadly so far out of your league here. Your comment is posited without nuance or respect for a vast literature that your Womens' Studies texts blithely ignore. We are familiar with every serious study ever conducted about rape and false rape claims, and for you to try to lecture us is comical.

Spend a couple of months reading through the true-life reports we've covered here -- that's how long it would take you to understand what the fuck we do here. Your simple-minded mischaracterization of our views on rape insult both the men falsely accused and actual rape victims.

Please do not post here again. Read, and respect, our comment policy. Your comments trivializing the false rape problem is triggering for the many victims of false claims who regard our site as a refuge. Consider yourself banned.

Archivist said...

Erin, Teressa, et al (obviously the same angry young woman, whose "truth" is more important than our facts): here's some bedtime reading for you.

http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/p/lamb-to-slaughter-hofstra-false-rape.html

Pleasant dreams, misandrist.

Archivist said...

Note to Erin K: unlike the feminist sexual grievance industry, FRS never deigns to invent definitions of rape apart from those ordained by the fifty state legislatures. How do I define rape? It's irrelevant -- but for your information, I abide by the statutory definitions. But I can tell you that we've written an incredible number of posts here about the feminist sexual grievance industry's attempt to engorge the definition of rape to include garden variety sex. Among many, many other posts -- http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2010/06/feministings-irresponsible-rape-post.html

Now, just a word of friendly advice, Erin K.: you are assuming that this site is run by a bunch of Neanderthal rape apologists. You are about as far off as possible. Think ACLU, and Innocence Project, and Alan Dershowitz, and you'd be closer to the truth. There are a lot of blogs where hatred of women is freely expressed. This isn't one of them. Look at the fucking sub-heading of our blog, which started a firestorm of protest among some MRAs. We'd prefer to have one de-politicized blog that deals with rape and false rape claims all at once. Unfortunately, people like you can't seem to accept that false claims are a serious problem. You all insist on winning the Oppression Olympics at every stage even though no one can honestly say how many false claims or underreported claims there are. http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/p/prevalence-of-false-rape-claims.html (My better-than-your educated hunch is that false claims exceed the underreported claims.)

Now go head to Womyn's Studies class where you can learn how oppressive your father really was to you all those years.