Meg Whitman, the GOP candidate for Governor of California, has been hit by another storm of nasty rumors, just in time for the election next week. Whitman’s son, Griffith Harsh, a former student at Princeton University, was accused of brutally attacking and raping a former classmate at that venerable institution back in 2006. The "report" of this incident is found here.
The implication of the report is that Griffith got away with rape because his mother was a major donor at the school.
Let's briefly, and quickly, dissect the story to demonstrate the ways the progressive electronic media is even less responsible than the progressive print media when it comes to discussing the presumptively innocent accused of rape. (If that's possible.) From the story:
"On a spring night in 2006, Griff—then a sophomore—went partying on the Street, a boozy row of private undergraduate dining clubs. As he would later tell a panel of university disciplinarians, he ran into a classmate and went home with her. They had sex. She awoke the next morning with a black eye, bruised face and, she told friends, no memories from the previous night. According to multiple sources—one of whom was a dormitory adviser at the time—the girl told her friends Griff Harsh had raped her.
Let's stop right there. They were partying. They went home. They had sex. The anonymous girl had no memory of what happened. But then, we are led to believe that she legitimately thought she had been raped? From what? There is no evidence whatsoever that she was in a near comatose state at the time they had sex. None.
Should we assume she was raped because of the bruises? Because, you know, comatose women who are raped always incur bruising, right? Even a friend of the unnamed woman said this: "She had clearly hurt herself badly. Or been hurt badly." Gee, it's one or the other, so let's just assume it had to be that she had "been hurt badly," and that she had been badly hurt during a rape. Right?
The story goes on: "A friend who spent time with her the following morning spoke to us under the condition of anonymity: 'She woke up with him on top of her, and he was like, "You need the morning-after pill." And she was like, "Why, what happened?" She didn't remember having sex, she didn't remember consenting, she didn't remember any of it."
See? Of course he's a rapist. Because they were drinking, because they went home, and because they had sex, and because she can't remember what happened. Of course this awful predator must have taken advantage of the poor, innocent-as-a-lamb young woman.
Here's Griff's side of the story: "[H]e thought she had been sober enough to consent." He and the unnamed girl had had "two sexual encounters prior" to this incident. As for her injuries? "He attributed her injuries to an accidental fall."
She didn't go to the police. She didn't have a rape kit prepared. Why? Because, supposedly, she didn't want to go through the mess of accusing the son of a powerful person. (And, you see, that might have allowed police to, you know, hold her claim up to the scrutiny of an investigation.) She didn't want to put herself through that, but she was OK with putting herself through a university disciplinary hearing -- at the very university where the alleged rapist's mother was a powerful donor. Get it?
Or did she choose that route because, with a disciplinary proceeding at a university, she figured she could destroy Griff in a more accuser-friendly atmosphere?
At that disciplinary hearing, it was presumably her word (which was that she couldn't remember what happened) against his (which was that he believed she consented).
The disciplinary panel, which treats its matters as confidential, apparently concluded that it did not have enough evidence to discipline Griff Harsh.
But, of course, that Web site hasn't done enough damage to a young man's reputation. The article goes on to describe other brushes with the law Griff has had. The fact that these don't relate to the sexual assault of any woman, much less this woman, is beside the point. See, when you gotta smear someone, any mud will do.
Here's loopy Salon's take on it: "The actions of adult children shouldn't be used to cast aspersions on the character of their parents, but the sight of a wealthy young man who keeps getting away with everything puts the lie to a gubernatorial campaign predicated on the idea that wealth and business acumen go hand in hand with American virtues like responsibility and hard work."
See? Griff got away with "everything," including, presumably, rape. All because he found himself on the losing "he" side of a "he said/she said" rape accusation. (For "he said/she said" rape accusations, the "he" side is akin to the Washington Generals playing the Harlem Globetrotters.)
"If I'm to be branded a rapist, for the rest of my life then there should be some evidence of it," Harsh said in a 2006 statement. See here.
Why on earth would you think that, Griff? You obviously are not a regular reader of this blog, are you? Maybe you should be.
Wednesday, October 27, 2010
How to smear a conservative running for Governor? Talk about her presumptively innocent son as if he's a rapist, of course
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Excellent illustration of a modern day lynching of a young man, all because his mother is running for governor.
"The disciplinary panel, which treats its matters as confidential, apparently concluded that it did not have enough evidence to discipline Griff Harsh."
Considering how outrageously biased, both in policy and politics, these campus disciplinary panels are in favor of the female accuser, their conclusion speaks volumes to his innocence.
Also her story makes no sense. If she were so out of it that she couldn't remember, why would he have to punch her in the face in order to overpower her?
I though that perhaps this was the most telling bit of information in that report:
"Griff notes "two sexual encounters prior" to the night in question as evidence that he thought the encounter was consensual."
That's the sort of information that would definitely have kept it from being prosecuted.
As I've been recently posting about in other threads, one of the local DA's in my area, Ken Buck, is running for a seat on the US Senate this year; and, up until last weekend, had had a lead in the polls.
Unfortunately for Buck, who had previously faced criticisms for being too "gung ho" of a law and order type, a recording of a conversation he had had some year back surfaced.
I that recording, he explains to a young women who had accused an ex-lover of rape after having re-connected with him, invited him to her home, and having sex (after having had some drinks), why his office decline to prosecute the case, over her protestations that it be done.
As happened with Griffith Harsh, the fact that the women was an ex-lover who seemed happy to reconnect with the guy, that fact alone can easily be seen as contributing to a sense of consent to subsequent sex, making it very unlikely that any jury would not have a reasonable doubt that it was actually a matter of regretting having gotten back together with an ex (accounts of ex-lovers getting together to "give it another try" are quite common, and the subsequent mutual analysis of "that was a mistake!" is a normal outcome).
To add to his situation, when asked about it later by a new organization, Buck, trying to use an analogy to better explain the decision made the misstep of suggesting that a jury might have seen it as a case of Buyer’s Remorse. That phrase has since been paraded around as evidence of Buck’s supposed insensitivity to women as victims (and even to suggest that he is “pro-rape” – the standard back-door approach of “he doesn’t care about victims, ergo, he must be for it”).
As a result, Buck has now lost his previous lead in the polls here. If he looses, it will be mostly because of the fallout from this incident, despite the fact that the case was reviewed by several members of his prosecutorial staff, including two female prosecutors) and the decision not to prosecute subsequently endorsed by the very liberal DA of neighboring Boulder County (anyone who’s familiar with Boulder, CO can guess what sort of liberal-whack job they’d elect to office).
As we can see in both the cases of Griffith Harsh and with the incident of a non-prosecution here in Colorado, even a rape allegation that lacks merit enough to prosecute can still have long-term, far-reaching consequences. Sadly, FRA’s still wield great power. Only the continued exposure of their prevalence can ever serve to undermine that power. Please keep up the important work of this site.
Oct 27, 2010 11:04:00 AM
This is another example how corroborating evidence should be required by law.
"Considering how outrageously biased, both in policy and politics, these campus disciplinary panels are in favor of the female accuser, their conclusion speaks volumes to his innocence.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Campus disciplinary panels AT THE TIME HE WAS ACCUSED were notorious for finding loopholes in the system.
Also her story makes no sense. If she were so out of it that she couldn't remember, why would he have to punch her in the face in order to overpower her?
She woke up with him on TOP of her. Her injuries occurred BEFORE he raped her.
It is an institutional and societal perversion to have fostered and enabled the "false rape culture" that has now consumed many universities in the U.S.
Gender feminists tell us that if girls are charged when they make false rape accusations, then it would somehow deter real victims from coming forward. I say where are the studies that prove this ???fishy theory???
One of the very real results of not charging false rape accusers, is the now "culture of false rape accusations" we are in the middle of. Not charging false rape accusers really does harm the real victims, but Gender / Raunch feminists asurp way to much hysteria/Klan Empowerment from the culture of false rape accusations, that society is being told are all real rapes.
Gender / Raunch feminists are super "Empowered" by keeping society and American universities in a state of "heightened hysteria Alert".
They benefit from having "University courts", so the truth will never have to be forced out by any real legal authority.
scott STFU #####
scott WTF does 'ASURP' mean?
Are these University Rape courts, that Im sure manufacture faulty and inflammatory misinformation, even constitutional??
google it you little pig
ASURP : There is no such word.
What the F*** is wrong with you?
WTF is wrong with me is that i was falsely accused of a rape that simply never happened, and i want to hold the perverts who foment "rape hysteria"; the folks who "Empower themselves" from rape hysteria; accountable.
SO WHAT. Stop wimping around, we've all got problems. Explain what ASURP means.
Abc news seamlessly goes from one false rape case, to the next false gang rape, to the next false rape for ruffies gang rape, to the next false rape case........so seamlessly it makes me sick.
I believe the "psychological effects" on the majority of the American population, that think all these rape accusations are "true rapes" are quite literally "shattering" any American patriarchy.
I believe the psychological effects of long term exposure to false rape accusations over, and over, and over, (that abc news spins as real) are very similar to a rat in a cage being shocked repeatedly...over time the rat becomes paralyzed, and sits in the corner in a state of shock, not unlike the state of the American patriarchy.
All these false rape accusations published as real, OVER, and OVER, and OVER, and OVER, has has the same effect on human males, as the shocks do on the rats...The American males become broken, and in a state of shock, lying in the corner too broken to stand for anything.
while the patriarchy is broken, then financial sharks can de-regulate the American mortgage industry until collapses, and throws the world economy into chaos; and all the while the American patriarchy is to "paralyzed and broken" to even whimper about it.
Im not whimping around, Im fighting the pigs and perverts who should be held accountable for the the perversion they have fostered.
And Asurp, is the old english version of usurp.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Campus disciplinary panels AT THE TIME HE WAS ACCUSED were notorious for finding loopholes in the system
To punish and convict, maybe, but certainly not to find him innocent.
-zarko
"Nothing could be further from the truth. Campus disciplinary panels AT THE TIME HE WAS ACCUSED were notorious for finding loopholes in the system."
That's wrong.
"She woke up with him on TOP of her. Her injuries occurred BEFORE he raped her."
There is no evidence for that.
Go troll somewhere else.
Zarko - ”To punish and convict, maybe, but certainly not to find him innocent.”
I was thinking along that same line.
Now, I actually agree (with the whiny-ass feminists) that it’s almost certainly the case that his mothers donations bought him undue consideration with the disciplinary panel that other male students would not have enjoyed, the more salient things to consider are A) the nature of such panels, and B) why so many “crimes that go before such panels are never brought to the attention of the legal authorities.
As to the nature of the panels, they are exactly as you suggest – a group of individuals selected for the anti-male prejudices, with the common goal of finding ways to find men guilty of anything and every thing they might be charged with (by women), and who are perfectly willing to standard procedures such as presumption of innocence, right to counsel, right to present evidence and a defense, and the right to confront their accuser whenever the suspension of such standard “rights” suits their predetermined goals.
So, sure, Meg Whitman’s generosity probably saved her son from a normal outcome before such a panel; but the issue s is NOT that it saved him from justice, but rather that it saved him from INJUSTICE in that “kangaroo court”.
[I’m sure everyone remembers the situation at Brown University with the spoiled rich girl and the poor scholarship wrestler – that typical disciplinary panel injustice is going to finally see some real justice in a real court of law. Which segways nicely into B…]
The fact that so many of the “cases” brought before those college disciplinary panels, despite some rather serious allegations, are never referred to the real police. This actually speaks volumes about those cases. It’s as if it was obvious that they wouldn’t survive the light of even a cursory police investigation.
The unavoidable fact is that nothing was preventing Griffith Harsh’s accuser from going to the police if she wasn’t happy with outcome of the panel. She never even had to report the matter to the university at all. If she was so convince that she had been raped and brutalized by her former lover, and was so concern that his mothers money would influence the university to his favor, then why the Hell didn’t she go to the police instead. The self-evident reason is that she knew perfectly well that her claim was weak [I’m trying to hold myself back from launching off into a what other possible motives some gold-digging skank who’d been putting out for the son of a billionaire might have to go the FRA route that there could have].
Frankly, if I wasn’t already suspicious of that woman’s claims, the fact the she DIDN’T go to the police would certainly have made me so. Just sayin’…
She woke up with him on TOP of her. Her injuries occurred BEFORE he raped her.
From the story:
"She had clearly hurt herself badly. Or been hurt badly."
So, either she did it herself, or he did it. Also from the story:
She awoke the next morning with a black eye, bruised face and, she told friends, no memories from the previous night. According to multiple sources—one of whom was a dormitory adviser at the time—the girl told her friends Griff Harsh had raped her.
So she doesn't know what happened, but is telling everyone it is rape. How exactly does that work?
I'm sorry officer, but I don't remember anything about last night, but I know "something" bad happened. Riiiiiiiiight.
Again from the story:
The girl consulted her friends, some of whom worried about the "social repercussions" of accusing such a high-profile student of rape.
So she, and her "friends", were more worried about the "social repercussions", than taking what she, and they, believe (again, she doesn't know for sure) to be a rapist off the streets. Says more about her than anything. I guess she has no compunction about leaving what she has been convinced is a rapist, out there to do it again. Uh-huh.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Campus disciplinary panels AT THE TIME HE WAS ACCUSED were notorious for finding loopholes in the system.
Would you like me to pull up a few stories that show just the opposite? From this site? Campus disciplinary panels, at that time, were notorious for ignoring the rights of the accused, and treating them as criminals, with no finding of fact involved. And I'm sure that many of our readers, who have been falsely accused, can tell you the exact same thing, because they lived it.
But you keep telling yourself that hey, it's just men getting destroyed. No need for alarm. But keep something in mind, please. When you, or someone you know is raped (note that regret after a drunken hookup isn't rape), when you can't find anyone who will believe you, that you, by minimizing those who are falsely accused, contributed to your own problem.
I JUST posted an article about juries not convicting men for these "buyer's remorse" cases.
Was I the only idiot who read the article?
Just food for thought: Wouldn't this work as well to smear a liberal running for governor? Maybe it's not about conservatives or liberals, but about FALSE rape accusations, period.
Ken Buck is not losing out because of that ugly "victim" attack ad. The " tax breaks for the rich, middle income kids will be cut out of college opportunities, privatizing social security and his record of never serving in the public sector are MUCH more effective. The ads are relentless.
Anonymous said...
scott STFU #####
Oct 27, 2010 6:48:00 PM
Anonymous said...
scott WTF does 'ASURP' mean?
Oct 27, 2010 6:51:00 PM
Leave Gender/Raunch guy alone.
Leave him the fuck alone.
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Anonymous - "Ken Buck is not losing out because of that ugly "victim" attack ad. The " tax breaks for the rich, middle income kids will be cut out of college opportunities, privatizing social security and his record of never serving in the public sector are MUCH more effective. The ads are relentless."
Really?
Then maybe you can explain why it was that, save for the "rape apologist" stuff, the same basic ads had been running for moths, and yet Buck enjoyed a noticeable lead. Then, a week after the ads started in about the "rape" he didn't prosecute, that lead evaporated.
I've been here in Colorado, paying some attention to the polls for months, and I'm not buying that people (at a time when studies show people are actually more likely to simply "tune out" the crush of political ads) suddenly started paying attention to all the other claims about Buck. I see the timing between the "rape apologist" tact and the sudden change in the polls as anything but a coincidence.
BTW, are you also actually her in Colorado, and seeing those ads? If so, have you noticed that they are now proclaiming the man involved in that unprosecuted case an "admitted rapist"?
The only thing that guy ever "admitted" to was that he did have sex with the women.
So, are you one of those who buys the gender-feminist party line that any sex a woman calls rape is, in fact, rape?
Because the way I see it, that's the only way one can get from a man saying that he and a woman had sex, to him being an "admitted rapist".
Conservative MR's crack me up.
"I don't want Biden in there cause he wrote VAWA! Wait, what's that you say?...a woman is running for VP? Oh don't worry, just cause she says she's a feminist doesn't mean she is! Besides, she's good-looking so that means she will help men and boys. Now leave me alone!!"
Yes, the rape ad sounded horrible at first. When it came out he conferred with other DAs about whether or not to proceed, it changed the perception completely. Those ads and that complaint have not played for awhile now.
The "buyer's remorse" comment was uncalled for, even if he couched it as what "someone else" would think.
When presented with the full facts of the "rape" case, very few "normal" people would still support the accuser, but his use of the term "buyer's remorse" showed his contempt (which must be why she secretly recorded the conversation in the first place).
"Buyer's remorse" is a disrespectful term you might use indirectly behind someone's back. However truthful it may be, to have used it to her face showed his thinly veiled contempt of her, which might have felt good, but was not professional.
At least that's the watercooler talk where I'm at.
Conservative MR's crack me up.
"I don't want Biden in there cause he wrote VAWA! Wait, what's that you say?...a woman is running for VP? Oh don't worry, just cause she says she's a feminist doesn't mean she is! Besides, she's good-looking so that means she will help men and boys. Now leave me alone!!"
And VAWA and Biden are mentioned where? If I missed it, please, feel free to point that out. And this has been, rather noticeably this election cycle, a standard tactic from the Democrat side of the aisle. They know they can't run on thier voting record, so it has been a smear campaign unlike any I've seen in my lifetime. Yes, there are Republicans doing the same thing, but not nearly to the level that Dems have done.
And thank you for speaking of something that has nothing to do with the false allegation, once again, showing the disregard that some people have for those falsely accused of rape.
We appreciate it.
This is for the person who accused us of having a political agenda. Your comment was deleted because it was uncivil.
The GOP and its chivalrous members leave much to be desired when it comes to the rights of the male gender. Bob Dole was the architect of Fed.R.Evid. 413, the most anti-male law on the books, in my view. You see, Republicans become idiots when it comes to "law and order." But along strictly party lines, the GOP is not openly hostile to males on as many issues, or to the same degree, as progressives.
Have you heard much about the Al Gore "rape" charge lately? That's because Al doesn't fit the profile. The privileged son of a GOP candidate does. Hence the headline for the post.
Who still insists "something" happened at the Duke Lacrosse party? Hint: they are largely voting DEM on Tuesday. They hate this blog. They read and write for things like Feministing and Abyss2Hope, or whatever it is called with that Chester Marcellus woman.
The fact of the matter is that the Democrat party is allied with NOW and like-minded organizations that are anti-male. Speaking as a life-long Democrat, if you think you can hitch your wagon to that party and still be an MRA, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.
You want to be civil on my blog, you can comment here.
"And VAWA and Biden are mentioned where? If I missed it, please, feel free to point that out."
I'm not sure what you mean - I didn't say they were mentioned in the o.p. or this thread. Are you saying you've never heard MRA's talking about VAWA and Biden; especially conservative MRA's??
"thank you for speaking of something that has nothing to do with the false allegation"
I addressed the o.p., it said something about 'smearing a conservative'.
"Speaking as a life-long Democrat, if you think you can hitch your wagon to that party and still be an MRA, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you."
who said I'm a Democrat...I'm an independent. I know how to think for myself.
Sorry guy, but I've been watching this board for over a year and not commenting, and I must say that I have noticed a slowly but steadily increasing amount of political agenda creep in (actually there was some at the beginning but I held my breath.)
I would go as far as to say that you're one step away from being more of a hindrance to the MR movement than a boon, due to your divisive politics. Granted it's important to get the false rape message across, but if we just focus on whether you're actually a help to the MR movement as such, I'm really starting to wonder. Also deleting comments...isn't the first time I've seen it on here.
"And VAWA and Biden are mentioned where? If I missed it, please, feel free to point that out."
oh sorry, now I see the source of confusion - your admin deleted the other post so you missed the context.
I'm not sure what you mean - I didn't say they were mentioned in the o.p. or this thread. Are you saying you've never heard MRA's talking about VAWA and Biden; especially conservative MRA's??
I see. So you make a comment in a thread about a rape charge that a college couldn't even call rape (and god knows they don't exactly have a good track record of not believing the accuser, with no proof required), that was never reported to the police, and you expect me to extrapolate from that, that you meant it was said elsewhere? That's quite the leap.
I addressed the o.p., it said something about 'smearing a conservative'.
Which is exactly what it did.
oh sorry, now I see the source of confusion - your admin deleted the other post so you missed the context.
I AM the admin, and no such deletion took place at my hands. If you are talking about the post that Pierce refers to deleting, that had nothing to do with your statement about VAWA and Biden. Again, neither one of those things has a single thing to do with this post. So you are correct, I missed the context. Still do.
my comment started out,
"conservative MRA's crack me up."
then I gave an example of how they crack me up. What's the problem?
As far as I can tell it says "deleted by admin."
Frankly, you guys are losing it.
"Which is exactly what it did. "
okay, and then I addressed it. What's the problem??
If you guys want to have rules about what portion of an o.p. we are allowed to comment on, they need to be clearly stated up front.
Yikes! The Dems are catching up to the repubs with Willie Horton campaign tactics?
NOT Fair!!!!
The problem with your analogy, is that willie horton was a convicted felon who, while serving a life sentence for murder, without the possibility of parole, was the beneficiary of a Massachusetts weekend furlough program. He did not return from his furlough, and ultimately he committed assault, armed robbery and rape.
Whitman's son, was never even charged with anything. Hell, the school took no action.
So your comment had nothing to do with the piece, yet all you can spout is that this is the same thing as people on other sites talking about VAWA and Biden.
There is no connection. This is a hit piece that tries to paint Whitman's son as a rapist, and that he only got away with it because if anything had been said, mommy would have bought him out of it.
Feel free to comment on the post. I'm still waiting for you to do so.
"I would go as far as to say that you're one step away from being more of a hindrance to the MR movement than a boon, due to your divisive politics."
Here's the reality, friend: the Democrat party is in bed with NOW and a host of like-minded organizations that hate maleness. I am sorry to have to say that. Have you studied the politics of the stimulus monies? President Obama was prepared to do the right thing and pump lots more money into heavy industry and construction. He was forced to change his plan by NOW. That's a fact. NOW insisted that a significant percentage of the monies go to "women" jobs that were not affected by the recession.
Do you think the Dems would ever acknowledge that our schools are failing our sons? It doesn't fit their metanarrative.
Do you think the Dems would ever acknowledge that rape isn't rampant and that maleness doesn't need to be reprogrammed to be more woman-friendly?
The Bush admininstration retained CONSAD to do an indepedendent study about the wage gape. CONSAD determined that there is not enough evidence to say the wage gap is due to discrimination. The Obama administration took that study down from Dept. of Labor's website soon after Obama took office. It doesn't fit their narrative.
And I could go on and on. As I said above -- but you were too angry to see it -- the GOP is bad, too. But not that bad.
Now, if you have a plan to start getting our message through to the Dems, that's a different story. That would be very healthy. I am speaking reality, and you are attacking the messenger.
To put it succinctly:
The Democratic party hates Men
The Republican party doesn't care about Men
Still, voting for the lesser of two evils hasn't gotten us much.
Anon,
Great way to put it. But I would say, that the right actively targets men, just in a slightly different way. My wife's family is practicing catholic (my wife isn't). We went to church with them one time, shortly after we got married. The whole sermon was about how men need to step up and be better men for their wives (completely ignoring single men), but not a word on how women could be better women to their husbands. After about 45 minutes of being told how bad a husband/man I was, I got up to walk out. It immediately brought a reaction from the priest (or whatever the catholics call them), who stopped and asked me where I was going? I told him I didn't come to church to be told how bad I am, when (1) he had never been married, and (2) he had no idea what kind of man/husband I am. And my personal view of the church is that it is a place to commune and be closer to god. If all it is going to be is a place where the feminist view of man=bad/woman=good is going to be preached, then they need to remove the story of adam and eve from the bible (cause it really doesn't fit that narrative).
Needless to say, my MIL wasn't thrilled with me (didn't talk to me for close to 2 years), and I have never set foot in that church since. My FIL by the way, thought it was hilarious. So did my wife.
The point is, as you stated, that the right does actively work against men. It's just not quite as blatant as the left.
And one of my favorite quotes:
Choosing the lesser of two evils, is still choosing evil. - Jerry Garcia
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