Tuesday, September 7, 2010

Rape allegation 'was false'

A woman who claimed she was raped made up the allegation, police said today.

The 25-year-old went to Surrey Police on July 12 to report that she was assaulted on the Goldsworth Park estate, near Woking, as she walked home from a barbecue the previous evening.

Officers launched an investigation in a bid to trace the attacker but inquiries led them to believe the incident did not take place as described.

A Surrey Police spokeswoman said the woman was not facing charges in connection with the false allegation.

"Due to the complexities of the case, police have made the decision not to charge the woman with any offence at this time but that is subject to review," she said.

Detective Inspector Jo Sidaway, who led the investigation, said: "Rape is an extremely serious crime and police have a duty to investigate every allegation made to us.

"In this case, we are satisfied from the evidence we have gathered that this assault did not take place as described.

"I would like to stress that this should not discourage genuine victims from coming forward. You have nothing to fear from police and we have specially trained officers who will work with you and support you."


Link:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/rape-allegation-was-false-2042930.html

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

law enforcement official states.."I would like to stress that this should not discourage genuine victims from coming forward."
I say, this is the root of the perversion folks. This Gender feminist perverted theory that charging false rape accusers deters real rape victims from "coming forward" is now the dominant theory in American law enforcement. And why not, American law enforcement by engageing in womens hysteria can BLOAT THE F@CK OUT OF THEIR BUDGETS!!!!
Because of the gender feminist inspired "not charging false rape accusers theory" we are witnessing a false rape accusation explosion. American law enforcement are no longer protecting the innocent. What will it take to correct this very deep perversion of American law enforcement??? The American lawyers won't fix it cause they feed off the conflict, and the only way may be for men to form a sort of union.
But until this perversion is rooted out of western law enforcement, at least with the internet, we can warn other nations not to let gender / Raunch perverted proffessors preach faulty and inflamatory missinformation to their students, which is where the perversion first takes root.

AfOR said...

"I would like to stress that this should discourage genuine victims of false rape accusations. You have everything to fear from police and we have specially trained officers who will work against you and attempt to convict you."

Anonymous said...

Thankfully, the woman didn't face charges. Can't have that.

slwerner said...

""Due to the complexities of the case, police have made the decision not to charge the woman with any offence at this time but that is subject to review," she said. "

What "complexities" - the fact that she a woman????

My guess (as if anyone cares...) is that this is a woman who is either married or in a long-term relationship; but decided to hook-up with someone else at the barbecue (assuming that's really where she went), and concocted the rape allegation to explain why she was "missing" while off with her lover (as is so often the case, it seems). I'd also guess that this is what the authorities are politely calling "complexities".

But, with such sparse detail, all I can do is speculate (that it's just like so many other "cover-story" FRA's, that is).


To change gears just a bit...

Anonymous anti-LE ranter - "American law enforcement are no longer protecting the innocent. What will it take to correct this very deep perversion of American law enforcement??? "

Once again, you clearly did not read the article. And, once again, it's a story coming out of the UK. So, once again, it has nothing to do with the state of US law enforcement.

Please, please, please try to tailor your comments to fit with the story posted. Given the reach of the internet, we can honestly state that "the world is watching". Given the gravity of the false rape allegation issue, it would be helpful if we try to look serious, rational, and sober.

One thing that those who've spent any length of time in the "Manosphere" can tell you that one way to point out the foolishness of gender-feminists is to direct on-lookers to some of their blogs, where it is almost certain that some feminist nut-case will have posted some ridiculous anti-male/anti-patriarchy/etc post or comment, that serve to undermine the credibility of those sites.

Also, those who've been around the "Manosphere" will know exactly where I'm going by merely mentioning the name MikeUSA. So say he was for real. With over two-hundred million men in the Anglosphere alone, it's probably that such an individual does exist. Yet, most rational men tend to believe that MikeUSA was an invention by a radical gender-feminist who posted that annoying boiler-plate rant as a way to discredit Men's issues sites much the way free-speaking gender-feminists discredit themselves.

slwerner said...

Hum, I see the comment I posted earlier has disappeared...

Oh well,

Anyway, I must first apologize because I am about to go completely off-topic here; but, I need to vent about something.

On Laura Wood's (The Thinking Housewife) site, there is a frequent post, one Jesse Powell - the same guy who sometime back commented that he was "okay" with innocent men being imprisoned via false rape allegations, so that (as he surmised) women would be protected from being raped (by the non-rapists in jail) - who's back at it again. This one really burned me up. I mailed my response to Laura, but I anticipate that, as she has done in the past, she will simply refuse to post any harsh comments directed at this guy. Anyway, heres what Jesse Powell has to say about the MRM:

"The goal is for male domestic violence to be excused, to be minimized, for allegations to not be believed, etc. That is the agenda of the MRM in regards to domestic violence. It exactly parallels the MRM agenda in regards to rape. The MRM wants rape accusations to not be believed, for rape to be minimized, for prosecution to be more difficult, etc."

With chivalrous white-knighting manginas out spreading the lies, who needs avowed man-hating gender-feminist radicals. These A-holes are (willfully) ignorant of the fact that they walk lock-step with the feminists they claim to be against. Much as they claim to be against the evils and excesses of feminism, they sure seem to consider the men who are actually willing to try to do something about those evils and excesses as their "enemies". WTF!?!?[/rant]

slwerner said...
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Archivist said...

The spam filter doesn't like sl! I retrieved the comments.

Anonymous said...

"With chivalrous white-knighting manginas out spreading the lies, who needs avowed man-hating gender-feminist radicals. These A-holes are (willfully) ignorant of the fact that they walk lock-step with the feminists they claim to be against. Much as they claim to be against the evils and excesses of feminism, they sure seem to consider the men who are actually willing to try to do something about those evils and excesses as their "enemies"."

Beautifully said.

Anonymous said...

"Given the gravity of the false rape allegation issue, it would be helpful if we try to look serious, rational, and sober."

Unless the owners of this blog decide to ban him, delete his posts, or take some other action, that isn't going to happen.

Anonymous said...

"The MRM wants rape accusations to not be believed, for rape to be minimized, for prosecution to be more difficult, etc."

While I can't speak for the MRM, I want rape accusations not be automatically believed, and for prosecution to be more difficult. Nor do I see what's wrong with that.

Although I have no idea what he means by "for rape to be minimized", unless he is arguing in favor of increasing the amount of rape. While that is what the feminists want, even they have enough sense not to come right out and say it.

slwerner said...

Anonymous - "While I can't speak for the MRM, I want rape accusations not be automatically believed, and for prosecution to be more difficult. Nor do I see what's wrong with that.

Although I have no idea what he means by "for rape to be minimized"


Having seen a number of posts from Jesse Powell, what I understand him to have meant is that a primary thrust of the MRM is to make it easier for men to rape and abuse woman. In his view, having women not be automatically believed is tantamount to not believing them at all. He see's (equal) rights for men as necessarily coming at the expense of womens safety. He's called for a return to a one-side, onus-on-men-only system of Chivalry as the best way to ensure the safety of women. A recently, he been spouting out a lot of nonsense about the rights men enjoy as husbands - right on the heals of admitting he knows nothing about the VAWA - making claims that could get any guy who were to follow his advise tossed in jail as a DV abuser.

He's tried repeatedly to discredit anything and everything that might be called a part of the MRM, so don't be fooled that he's simply referring to MRA's seeking a rational and even handed application of the law. He is, in fact, claiming MRA's want women to be raped and abused.

I've mused about collecting and rebutting a number of his comments in a collection I'd entitle, "The Asinine Thoughts of Jesse Powell". His idea of innocent men going to prison on false rape charges being desirable as he believes it wold help to protect women would be at the top of the list.

slwerner said...

Anonymous - ”Unless the owners of this blog decide to ban him, delete his posts, or take some other action, that isn't going to happen.”

I would not want to see him banned, nor even censored. He is himself the victim of and FRA, and a seeming miscarriage of justice by police officers investigating (which, unfortunately, he has taken to mean that all of LE is corrupt and unjust). Thus, I believe he is owed the benefit of the doubt.

Still, I’d like to see his energies rechanneled in a constructive manner.

That LE has a serious “blind spot” WRT FRA’s, I have no doubt. But, as one who knows a good many cops, I understand that is due to the natural inclinations of those (men) who chose to be cops to also want to be white-knights – not a alliance they’ve formed with radical gender-feminists. They are, in fact, some of the most patriarchal “macho” guy’s you’d ever meet. They have a tough time getting along with a typical feminist they might encounter in their day-to-day lives.

If anything, cops are more fearful that NOT doing their upmost to demonstrate that they are “on a woman’s side” when she makes a claim will land them in hot water with their “brass” – who often lack the fortitude to stand up to feminist demands.

He also has a point about the “raunch culture” that feminists have brought about being a strong inducement for women making FRA’s. But, it is a factor which has nothing to do with LE also encouraging FRA’s (as he’s frequently inferred). It is simply what it seems – women encouraging women to make claim if ever/when ever they feel it will be beneficial to them.

But mostly, I wish he’d take the time to read the articles, consider what they demonstrate regarding the FRA issue, and make comments (mostly) based on the information that can be gleaned (or even speculated) from that story.

For instance, the article above gives an example of police doing basically what “we” would have them do if we could write the policies for them. They took the woman’s complaint – as they must. They proceeded to investigate, no doubt looking for cooberating evidence of a rape. And, when they found only contradictory evidence, they correctly reached the conclusion that it had not happened.

In fact the only real issue is that they and/or prosecutors chose not to charge her (based on mysterious “complexities”).

Thus, there is no evidence of LE having been perverted, encouraging the FRA, allying themselves with feminists, manufacturing either false stats nor false evidence, nor even hiding the FRA from the public (although it might be argued that they haven’t disclosed enough to be helpful in demonstrating the often trivial and self-serving motivations behind FRA’s).

Simply posting a boiler-plate rant which fails to address anything about the actual story at hand creates a real risk that casual observers might right us (and thus the issue of FRA’s) as a bunch of knee-jerk reactionary nuts.

slwerner said...
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Archivist said...

sl, my guess is that it's the italics or the links. Spam uses a lot of links.

Anonymous said...

Gender / Raunch feminists who "Empower" themselves off attacking innocent heterosexual males, and have gotten American law enforcement to do so also, would really like the owners of this blog to ban me...For i pull no punches, and target the root of the perversion, which is in fact "Gender / Raunch feminist constructionists" that spread faulty and inflamatory agitation propaganda in our universities.

Anonymous said...

Mr Werner, i respect and admire you're calm rational and reasoned approach to youre well thought out comments here on "False rape society".
Maybe i can offer you some perspective of the anger that comes from my comments...I live near Boston in which the world has witnessed the recent spate of lesbian violence (that local newspapers tried to downplay).
This elevated level of lesbian violence causes some very serious perversion in the law enforcement communities that try to placate the lesbian community. these violent lesbians want "numbers for dollars"...and they have in fact gotten law enforcement to arrest males on domestic violence calls, and let these violent beast women go...in order to get the VAWA federal dollars.
This perversion needs to be stopped, for enableing womens violence means violent women will take it out on small children who cannot defend themselves.
Violent women are the ones who duct tape the mouth of their children shut, put them in a black garbage bag and bury them out in back of their house...and say a man in a van drove off with them.
Protecting children would mean intercepting these violent women, but our societies goals are not about protecting children as much as its about "Empowering" the Gender / Raunch community.

Anonymous said...

Title of article "Rape allegation was false".

Nowhere in the entire article is it stated that the allegation was "false".

Anonymous said...

Anon, she made up the allegation. That means she lied. That means it was false.

Is there something wrong with you?

slwerner said...

Anonymous - "Is there something wrong with you?"

Ahh...Give the poor dear a break. She's doing her best to try to find a way to discredit FRS.

Did you see that she seems to have popped up in the next thread as well, trying to make it seem as though the video might must have missed something vital - like where after she initiates sex with the young soldier and has rather energetic romp, he then rapes her off camera - as if that even makes one scintilla of sense to anyone but a gender-feminist?

Anonymous said...

"I would not want to see him banned, nor even censored. He is himself the victim of and FRA, and a seeming miscarriage of justice by police officers investigating (which, unfortunately, he has taken to mean that all of LE is corrupt and unjust). Thus, I believe he is owed the benefit of the doubt."

I don't see how. Having been falsely accused myself, not once did I ever think that it gave me an excuse to act like an idiot. The problem is by discrediting this blog with his incessant and insane nonsense, he not only hurts all of us, but everyone everywhere.

In a similar way, this blog frequently deletes comments or bans those perceived as "feminist trolls", some of whom might possibly have actually been sexually assaulted or abused as children. Yet, we make no exception for them. Nor should we. Past experience is no excuse for present behavior.

Anonymous said...

"Gender / Raunch feminists who "Empower" themselves off attacking innocent heterosexual males, and have gotten American law enforcement to do so also, would really like the owners of this blog to ban me"

No, they wouldn't. In is in their best interest that your posting continues unchanged and unabated, as it benefits their cause.

Anonymous said...

A great man told me once "The truth always multiplies".

Anonymous said...

My son's investigating Detective was not a chivalrous man. She was a paint by numbers to convict woman. I don't know that 'raunch' had anything to do with it, but gender certainly did.

Lay off gender/raunch guy. A victim has the right to speak his piece here as far as my vote goes.

If you don't like it, don't read it.

The admonishment to pay attention to facts was just and fair. Keep it between the fence posts, Robo guy.

Repeatedly calling for him to be banned makes me want YOU banned.

Arod99k said...

I remember when I was in the Army and my bunk buddy Private Gomez, was awakened and taken away. Private Gomez later told me that he had spent the night with some friends and that the sex was consensual and that the girl may have gotten scared because she was under age. Private Gomez paid the ultimate price, 50,000 dollars. The system is not about justice it is about attorneys getting paid. Gomez family forked over the cash and he was let off on a misdemeanor, he was originally facing 20 years in a Utah prison. Money talks and 50,000 he was set fee after 6 months.

Men are a commodity, whether its through legal fees or being part of a Prison Industrial Complex, men today are commodities.

Men are kidnapped by the state and held for profit, the profit being the ransom in bail or legal fees. This is no different than extortion.

Again, if you don't have the cash, you are going to prison.

Anonymous said...

"Again, if you don't have the cash, you are going to prison."

That's true.

And it has to be ready cash. Attorney's say they can't "charge against" your holdings.

We offered to fully sign over our $300,000.00 home to my son's attorney in exchange for his life.

No go. We were from out of state. Cash money only.

$300,00.oo would have been a cheap price to pay compared to what has happened.

There is a saying "If a problem can be fixed with money - it isn't a problem".

Even if it costs every last penny of your life savings - it beats the alternative.

E. Steven Berkimer said...

Title of article "Rape allegation was false".

Nowhere in the entire article is it stated that the allegation was "false"
.

From the article (let me know if I'm typing too fast for you):

A Surrey Police spokeswoman said the woman was not facing charges in connection with the false allegation.

I know that may have gone by fairly quickly, so make sure you pay attention to the part that is in bold.

Thanks for stopping by.

slwerner said...

E. Steven Berkimer - "let me know if I'm typing too fast for you"

Beautiful!

It seems she was a hit-n-run sort of troll who hasn't posted again.

Must have seen how pathetic her efforts to obfuscate the truth were turning out to be?