Shades of Hofstra? You decide after reading the two news reports below.
Four young college band members -- all black -- were held without bail for one month and were only released and the charges dropped, according to the Baltimore Sun (second news report below), after their accuser changed her story. One of the young men's defense attorneys said he can prove the sex was consensual because, he said, the accused sent text messages arranging the group encounter.
The four men are named, of course; their accuser is not, of course.
On top of it, three of the men were assaulted by a group of 30 inmates in jail before they were released. "They we're being called rapists while they were being attacked," said one of the men's defense attorneys. Another example of the state wrongly arresting men and then not bothering to adequately protect them while they are behind bars. I would like to hear how the state explains that one.
This case is just another in a long line of similar episodes where law enforcement arrests first (and holds the arrested men with bail set so high -- if it is set at all -- as to insure the defendant won't leave unless the charges are dropped) and only later completes the investigation that shows the charges are not warranted. This is especially common among young black men.
The state will not prosecute the accuser because, said a spokesman for the state's attorney's office, there was some unspecified, phantom, mysterious probable cause to prosecute this case. Come again? Do you mean to tell us, sir, that there was probable cause to prosecute a vicious rape -- and your office isn't doing it? You can't be serious, sir. Perhaps the spokesman means there was "probable cause" before the investigation was completed based on the word of the accuser? See, sir, that's the problem. You need to investigate first before you arrest. Or am I missing something here?
This just sounds to be just another instance where the state hands to young women the power to deprive young men of their liberty, based on nothing more than her say-so, to lock them away without bail for days, weeks, months, even years, where they live among -- and are beaten by -- real criminals, and then when it turns out they shouldn't be there, the state does nothing to punish her for abusing that power she's been given. Since she's not deterred, there is nothing to deter her or others from doing it to some other innocent young man.
Here are two news stories regarding this case -- the second from the Baltimore Sun. Click on the first story and watch the great news report from WJZ reporter Adam May, who very properly emphasizes the harm done to the accused men:
Charges Dropped For MSU Students Accused Of Rape
BALTIMORE (WJZ) ― Charges have been dropped for two current and two former Morgan State University students charged with a violent attack.
Sexual assault charges against four current and former Morgan State University students are dropped.
Adam May reports one of their defense attorney's is now calling for new charges against the original accuser.
The four men, now cleared of any wrongdoing, were held without bail for almost a month.
When four current and former members of the Morgan State Band were accused of sexual assaulting a band mate last month, people who lived next door to the Hamilton Hills Apartment, where it allegedly happened, were stunned.
"I never heard any screaming or someone say rape or anything like that, no," said a neighbor.
Now the charges against all four men have been dropped because of what a spokesman for the state's attorney describes as conflicting evidence.
"There are varying accounts of what happened, who did what," said Joe Sviatko, state's attorney's office spokesman.
Dale Lawton's defense attorney tells WJZ he can prove the sex was consensual, claiming the accused sent text messages arranging the group encounter.
"If you're charged with any sex offense, even if you're exonerated, it may be something that can follow you the rest of your life," said William Buie, defense attorney.
Not only did the falsely accused have their reputations damaged, but three of them were also assaulted.
They were jumped by other inmates Tuesday in jail, right before they were supposed to head to court to have the charges dropped.
"They we're being called rapists while they were being attacked," said Buie.
"The young lady who made these accusations needs to be prosecuted.
That's the way you keep this from happening in the future."
Prosecutors say that won't happen.
"There was definitely probable cause to go ahead and charge this case, so the answer to that question would be no," said Sviatko.
There may not be any legal recourse for the time lost behind bars, but Buie is considering suing the Department of Corrections for failing to protect his client.
Link: http://wjz.com/local/Former.Curent.MSU.2.1854105.html
Sexual assault charges dropped against Morgan State students
University band members beaten up in jail
Sexual assault charges against four men — all former or current Morgan State University students held without bail since mid-July — were dropped Tuesday, after their accuser changed her story.
But the defendants never made it to Baltimore District Court for the proceeding.
Renard James, 30; Dante Green, 24; Dale Lawton, 22; and Howard Smith Cook, 22, were jumped by other inmates in a city jail holding cell before they could be transported, defense attorneys said.
The two younger men were taken to a hospital, treated and released, according to the state's Department of Corrections. The older two were taken to a detention center clinic for treatment.
"My understanding is … 30 people attacked our clients, I don't know why," said defense attorney Catherine Flynn, who represents Green. "I think one has a broken nose and broken ribs."
Few details of the attack were available Tuesday.
Attorneys said that the men were all former band members at Morgan. They were arrested a month ago and charged with various sexual offenses, including assault, perverted practice and conspiracy.
Their accuser, who also has a connection to the Morgan band according to Lawton's attorney, told police she was assaulted June 30 in Cook's apartment in the Hamilton Hills neighborhood. She said the men forcibly removed her clothes, held her down, and performed sexual acts on her against her will.
But the Baltimore State's Attorney's Office chose not to prosecute "after the continued investigation by prosecutors and police detectives showed insufficient evidence to proceed," said spokeswoman Margaret T. Burns.
The decision to drop the case was made this week. The men were to be released after processing Tuesday.
"Apparently they did not believe the young lady's story after all of this," said Lawton's lawyer, William R. Buie III.
He said he planned to talk with Lawton's parents about taking legal action against the accuser. The family was too concerned with their son's well-being to discuss much yesterday, Buie said.
He believes the fight may have occurred because the defendants were bragging about their impending release, which they were told of Monday.
"Almost 30 days in jail for a false accusation, then he gets assaulted," Buie said. "Needless to say, his family's not really happy about the whole process, and neither am I."
Lawton has been threatened at least once before by another inmate, Buie said.
His client and James have clean criminal records in Maryland, though Green and Smith Cook were separately given sentences of probation before judgment for theft charges, according to online court records.
Mark Van Bavel, who represents Renard James, said he planned to counsel his client about expunging the charges from his record.
tricia.bishop@baltsun.com
Link: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/education/bs-md-morgan-charges-dropped-20100810,0,5082028.story
Thanks to CJ
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I had a friend in Baltimore who was a cop and he has spent much time in Central Booking (the jail in midtown Baltimore where these guys were held). He said that it is more like Hell than any place that he has ever seen, and this is comming from a Baltimore cop. I drove by it many times when I lived there going down the JFX (I 83) and just looking at the place sent chills up and down my spine. I can't even imagine what it is like to be in there.
This is yet another example why rape should require corroborating evidence. No one should ever be arrested based solely on someone's word.
welcome to the neo "false rape culture".
The perversion will get worse before it gets better, and soon there will be so many false rapes that law enforcement cannot hide them from the public anymore.
Is a case of "yes, yes, yes, yes means no?"
Anonymous - Is [this] a case of "yes, yes, yes, yes means no?""
Sorta...
It seems mostly to be a case of multiple "yes"'s (arranged by phone), and of subsequent regret about having been so sexually libertine afterwards (as is so often the case for women).
What is (once again) missing from the news accounts is any explanation as to why the women chose to claim that her pre-arranged gang-bang was rape.
Maybe, as happened with Danmell Ndonye, her boyfriend found out about it? We are not told.
One element that leads to these false charges, in addition to maliciousness, is that the woman fears being shamed for doing what she wanted to do in the first place.
And all of us are partly responsible for contributing to that attitude. It should be just as okay for a woman to participate in a consensual gang-sex set-up as it is for the guys. I'm sure those on here will agree with this attitude, but many in society do not.
No one should be shamed for sexual behavior that hurts no one.
This is in no way saying that filing false charges is excusable and she should face the consequences.
Social Worker - "And all of us are partly responsible for contributing to that attitude."
While I'd agree that there is an element of (public/societal) shaming that women may fear, unless it is specifically stated as a motive for an FRA, I tend not to give it much weight.
Back in the time following the Hofstra hoax, Amanda Hess wrote a diatribe in defense of Danmell Ndonye based on the supposed Patriarchal "slut-shaming" women have to endure [personally, I think most so-called "slut shaming" is done by women to prevent other women from lessening their own sexual valuation - but, that's another topic all-together]
Yet, we know from the interview that Danmell's then-boyfriend gave, that he knew she'd just had sex with someone else when he went looking for her and found her walking barefoot in the hall, hair and clothes a mess, and that "JBF" look about her.
despite all the claims that she was afraid of such "slut-shaming", in the end, her lie started out simply to her boyfriend as a way to try to explain away her infidelity (hum??? it's almost like some sort of recurring theme in FRA cases). In order to try to "sell" her lie to him, she took her lie to the police...and we all know how it went from there.
The fear of being shamed may well be a powerful motivator for women. But, as long as it's attribution is not coming from the accuser herself, I remain doubtful.
"And all of us are partly responsible for contributing to that attitude."
Oh, puh-lease!
Seriously, who really thinks it's any more morally "OK" for guys to engage in group sex than it is for young women? I'll tell you what people think -- and I know feminists don't buy it but it's the truth: girls can get pregnant and guys can't. Period. There's something hardwired in our DNA that tells us that sex for a woman ought to be more meaningful because they can get pregnant. And you know what? There's a logic to that thinking. Call it "slut shaming" or whatever you'd like. If a mother hears her daughter and son had sex (not with each other), she's naturally going to be more concerned about the daughter. Because the daughter can get pregnant. Even with a condom.
Duh!
P.S. I don't mean to be flippant, but this stuff isn't rocket science, and I, personally, don't waste my time trying to dissect feminism as a lot of other bloggers do. Feminism has developed a series of handy all-purpose explanations for everything that have one purpose: to reaffirm perpetual female victimhood. It's tiresome.
Another one: don't blame the victim. Yeah, because men routinely excuse rapists for their actions and blame women who've been raped. The opposite is actually the case: a man hears that a female loved one allegedly was raped, he automatically believes her and goes off to kill the guy.
Spare me the feminist mantras. They are misandic at their core.
Slwerner what if the text messaging was a setup (as is so often the case for women). Could the girl have thought the pre-arrangement was for something entirely different than a gang bang? Maybe the DA is aware of this and used it as probable cause. We won't know unless the texting is made public.
Anonymous - "Slwerner what if the text messaging was a setup"
While it might have been, let's see what information we do have...
"Dale Lawton's defense attorney tells WJZ he can prove the sex was consensual, claiming the accused sent text messages arranging the group encounter."
Now, admittedly, I'm reading-in more than is actually stated here; but, if the text messages can (supposedly) demonstrate the consensual nature of the planned encounter, then it clearly suggests that she was a participant in the back-and-forth messaging necessary to make such arrangements. And, it also suggests that sex was specifically discussed in those messages.
Yes, I'm certainly applying my biases in making my educated guess.
So, can you tell me just what information that you gleaned from the articles provided that helped you to discern that she was NOT involved, and that it was a "set up"?
"One element that leads to these false charges, in addition to maliciousness, is that the woman fears being shamed for doing what she wanted to do in the first place.
And all of us are partly responsible for contributing to that attitude."
I absolutely, entirely refuse to take responsibility for contributing to any attitude which leads to false rape claims.
If you would like to do so, Social Worker, thereby identifying yourself as a contributor to false rape claims, by all means do. It's good to know who our enemies are. But don't do this earnest "we're all to blame" shit. We're not all to blame, and the suggestion that we are is a sleight of hand that distracts from placing 100% of the blame where it deserves to go: false rape accusers and their feminist and white knight enablers.
However, I must disagree with the Anon who responded to Social Worker:
"Seriously, who really thinks it's any more morally "OK" for guys to engage in group sex than it is for young women?"
Seriously, I think it's okay, because I don't really care what people get up to in private, whether that's one person or two people or two dozen people. As long as it's "safe, sane and consensual" for all parties involved, then be my guest. It's not my concern, nor is it my place to argue - it's simply none of my business, much less that of a pretended morality.
So, in a roundabout way, I agree with Social Worker.
Where I likely depart is that I do not think this kind of thing should be made public.
The public sphere is filthy and sexualised enough as it is. It's truly pathetic. A little humility goes a long way. A little decorum wouldn't go uncalled for.
Shaming most certainly has its place. I find it harder to respect our society and culture with every formerly respectable newspaper descending into "50 top sex tips!" articles. Please. How do you think I lost respect for women in the first place?
But in terms of MORALITY, and in terms of what consenting adults do behind closed doors, no matter the quantity of said adults: let's all remember that the personal is NOT political, yes?
What other people do in private is no business of mine, of society, of the media, of feminist bloggers, of the state, of the police force, of the rape Gestapo, etc.
I refute the feminist maxim that it is. But I still reserve the right to be disgusted at a crude public sphere where shame has dissipated and human beings act like monkeys fucking in cars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOZp3fTRDFk
Police: UGA student rape claim ‘unfounded'
http://www.ajc.com/news/police-uga-student-rape-590835.html
Jurors acquit 4 accused of sexual battery
"At one point, the jurors asked Circuit Judge Lamar Pickard whether they could review a transcript of the alleged victim's testimony given on Tuesday, but the request was denied.
The four men admitted to having sex with the teen in a male dorm room in October, but they said the sex was consensual."
http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20100812/NEWS/8120356/Jurors-acquit-4-accused-of-sexual-battery
Social worker has been "conditioned" to "blame us all", or to "blame men"....But Never Ever, ever, ever, blame women for shaming other women. Women are the main culprit for shaming other women who have gang bangs, but again, perverts have been conditioned to NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, blame women for womens actions...always find a male for the blame.
"Social worker has been "conditioned" to "blame us all", or to "blame men"....But Never Ever, ever, ever, blame women for shaming other women. Women are the main culprit for shaming other women who have gang bangs, but again, perverts have been conditioned to NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, blame women for womens actions...always find a male for the blame."
Okay, I clearly struck a nerve here. I actually thought I'd get a different overall response.
I hope anyone who has read my comments on here would know better than to say I "...always find a male for the blame."
I am not blaming. I am pointing up a cultural stereotype that both men and ABSOLUTELY women (and going off Archivist's comment, I have no problem seeing that women often do this more) play into. That of making sex okay for guys in any amount, shape, form, but not for the girls.
Whether it's about getting pregnant or not, that's the call the woman has to make getting into a multiple sex partner situation.
Doesn't make her a whore or damaged, etc, any more than it does the guys.
I agree with slwerner in THIS case, since we haven't gotten anything on her motive. And, of course, every case has to be viewed separately.
I'm just talking overall attitudes that MANY (not you, Snark) have.
K?
"So, can you tell me just what information that you gleaned from the articles provided that helped you to discern that she was NOT involved, and that it was a "set up"?"
Here are the facts:
She participated in text messaging to pre-arrange for a specific event. She also participated in a gang bang, or more nicely put ... a group sex encounter.
There's no evidence [yet] proving she knew what was going on. Let's wait for the text messages, which the defense claims will prove his clients' innocence.
"I'm just talking overall attitudes that MANY (not you, Snark) have."
Well ... if you want to blame MANY people for fomenting an attitude you see as poisonous, then that is quite all right :)
But do say 'many', and not 'all of us', please.
"Doesn't make her a whore or damaged, etc, any more than it does the guys."
So what DOES make a woman a whore if not group sex? ... I spoke of my belief that what happens privately between consenting adults is their own business, but this doesn't mean nobody else may judge them, may hold their own opinions, on it.
I would say she is a whore.
If not she, then who is a whore? I get the feeling that you would rather strike this word and concept from language altogether.
"UGA student rape claim unfounded"
What's your point? Athens has only seven more alleged rapes to solve, all reorted within the last two months.
By Never, Ever, Ever holding women accounteable for their actions, The Gender / Raunch feminists can "spin" the paradigm construction that holds the hetero-sexual males responsible for all the crimes of the world.
Young hetero-sexual males are being attacked on one side from conservatives that want these guys to "Man up", and take it like a man, take all the perversiions of society and put it on yer shoulders cause hetero-sexual males are to be held responsible.
Then young hetero-sexual males are being attacked from the upper white, middle class, Gender / Raunch community from the other direction. folks I'm here to tell ya, "theres gonna be a break down.."
you can't keep yolking the young hetero-sexual males to all the sins of the world because they might just say F@@ck all you perverts..shits going down.
It is a "very serious" perversion of any law enforcement community that "no longer charges" rape accusations that were simply .....lies.
May god help all the perverts who have "Empowered" themselves on the heads of the innocent.
""UGA student rape claim unfounded"
What's your point? Athens has only seven more alleged rapes to solve, all reorted within the last two months."
A better question would be, what is your point? Did you even bother to read the article?
The Copiah-Lincoln Community College and Morgan State University are both college gang rape accusations where it is plausible the woman's motive was that she was ashamed what she did after people found out.
Anonymous, in response to Anonymous - "What's your point? Athens has only seven more alleged rapes to solve, all reorted within the last two months."
And, what's your's? The link was to a story about a rape report that has been determined to have been falsified. You may have missed that this site covers instance of reports of rape that turn out to have been false.
So, to recap, the first Anonymous poster's point was: "here's another one..."
And your's seems to be, "So what if that one was false, there are others which may be true"
Well, this site doesn't condone rape, and Peirce has been extremely adamant that rape is a serious crime, and ought to be punished severely.
However, the correlated to this is that women who try to use the real suffering of real victims for their own selfish ends, by also claiming to be victims of the crime, are also serious criminal, who also ought to be severely punished (Geez! How many times does this have to be explained? It seems so patently obvious).
Of those other seven recent reports, who knows? It could be that there's a serial rapist at work (with number 8 trying to jump on the victim band0wagon disingenuously). Or, it could be one or more real rapes, and one or more other women trying to jump on that victim band-wagon. Or, it could be no rapes, and 8 women making false claims - perhaps seeing that the previous claimants got "special treatment". Again, who knows?
Maybe you can fill us in with the details of the other reports?
me - "However, the correlated..."
WTF?
"the corollary".
Please pardon my typo.
Slw my point is == rape on campus is rampant, which is something the FRS continues to deny. UGA is no exception.
"Slw my point is == rape on campus is rampant,"
Evidence please.
Oh wait, there isn't any.
And what there is, is utterly fabricated, as has been reported here before.
Anonymous - "rape on campus is rampant, which is something the FRS continues to deny. UGA is no exception."
Where did you get/post the information that any/all of these reports where at the University?
The Athens area has nearly 200,000 residents - it's more than just a college town.
BTW, I went to the web site of the linked story, and search for reports of rapes in Athens. I don't see anything about 7 other reports in recent months. Maybe you could link us to your information? (you do have a source to cite for your claim, don't you?)
@Anonymous who (falsely) claims rape on campus is rampant:
I did your work for you (as I judge you to be incompetent)
Hears what you probably seen: Nine rapes, one attempted rape, reported in past two months
Now, if you were capable of reading that article for comprehension, you'd know that NOT ONE of those reported rapes occurred at UGA. NOT ONE!
Even the one incident known to be false (did not) happened off-campus, at bar - although the liar was a UGA student. That's the only connection (non-connection, actually) to the university.
I'd like to say "Nice Try!", but it really wasn't, was it?
Slw, hardly ANY rapes occur on campus. They happen OFF campus for obvious reasons. If you had any familiarity with Athens, you'd know that everything happening inside of the eastern perimeter is connected to UGA. It is also ranked as the #1 party school in the nation. Where there's rape, there's rape culture.
I had to shake my head where you adamantly declared "not ONE of those rapes happened at UGA". Duh
Anonymous lying gender-feminist, rape-culture true-believer - "everything happening inside of the eastern perimeter is connected to UGA. It is also ranked as the #1 party school in the nation. Where there's rape, there's rape culture.
I had to shake my head where you adamantly declared "not ONE of those rapes happened at UGA". Duh"
Well, here they are (some extraneous info omitted - but you can read the full accounts via the link I provided). Now, tell me which ones even sound like they are associated with the University and male college students (oh, I'm sure you'll try to point to the "Campus Inn", but hotels that rent room's by the month are NOT typical student housing, so spare me the BS):
- On Aug. 2, a 21-year-old Athens woman told police she was sleeping at a friend’s house when an older man, whom she knew, came into the room ... [older man? That doesn't sound like college guy]
- On July 29, a 20-year-old was reportedly raped at her apartment in Northern Clarke County. Police arrested Trinity Jermaine Martin, 35, and charged him with rape and two counts of aggravated sodomy. [Northern Clarke County? That's nowhere near the school, is it?]
- On July 26, a 20-year-old woman told police she was raped at the Campus Inn. The suspects were two males the victim was voluntarily riding around with. She stated she did not know them. The clerk at the motel gave police the information one of the suspects used to rent the room. [while perhaps near to the campus, such hotels aren't typically associated with college students]
- On July 15, a 20-year-old woman said she met a man downtown who took her to his home on South Pope Street and raped her. [Downtown? How you going to explain that one?]
- On July 5, ARMC doctors notified police after a 22-year-old woman came in seeking help.
- On June 20, a 19-year-old woman reported she was raped by a man she knows at a business or office in the northeast part of Athens-Clarke County [Hey! They seem to be moving further from campus, now don't they?]
- On June 14, St. Mary’s Hospital doctors notified police after a 19-year-old woman from a neighboring county came in seeking medical attention. [Neighboring county! Like I said above...]
- Two men were charged with an attempted rape after a 49-year-old woman fought off two men on July 18 when they tried to rape her in their truck on a side street in West Athens. [And, one in West Athens]
So, there you go. I'm calling BS on your pathetic attempt to portray these as being indicative that: "rape on campus is rampant" [Check your comment at 4:53 PM]
Very, very pathetic attempt! But, hey, what can one really expect from a gender-feminist.
So I cheated a little to get down on the FRS level :/
Does that make acquaintance rape okay?
Check out the rape at Drake Univ on frat bro raping frat bro. Listen pal, date rape goes on everywhere.
Anonymous - "Listen pal, date rape goes on everywhere."
No! You listen, dumb-ass!
As has been stated time and time again here, rape is never okay.
But, neither is lying about it.
Either you're lacking in the intelligence to comprehend this, or the intellectual integrity to do so.
Rape hysteria in its current form, has very little to do with protecting women from rape, and much more to do with the "Empowerment" of the Gender / Raunch community.
The last scourge of "Rape hysteria"; when society just could not beleive women would Ever, ever, ever, lie about rape..cost alot of black men their lives. In fact history shows it was the case of the "scottsborro boys" that showed America that women can and do lie about rape, that stopped the brutal "Rapeklan lynchings" of the black man 80 years ago.
I personally feel the current "Rape hysteria" scourge has morphed into a situation where lying women are only a part of the problem. Now Rape hysteria is being used as a tool to "Empower" the Gender / Raunch community, and the Gender / Raunch Klan will also have to assume some of the guilt for the harm they have fomented in their quest for "Empowerment"
Some of the most barbaric and gruesome murders in America were instigated from a womens Rape lie.
"But do say 'many', and not 'all of us', please."
Why, Snark, I'd even be so generous as to say, WOmany, given Archivist's comment to mine.
"If not she, then who is a whore? I get the feeling that you would rather strike this word and concept from language altogether."
No, I don't want to strike it, though it does seem to be a useless pejorative. A whore in common talk is a woman who gets paid for sex, a prostitute.
A woman/girl who has sex with multiple partners is the same as a man/boy who has sex with multiple partners...a happy person? j/k
Seriously, why does there have to be a word for it, other than group sex? When we label the behavior as "whorish," it is instantly seen in a negative light whereas we don't do that (as much) with men. Once we denigrate it, it's a step easier to dismiss anything the "she" says or does as lesser or unimportant.
Wait a sec -- didn't the Baltimore Sun recently publish a series of editorials complaining about how the Baltimore PD was too tough on false rape accusers?
Why then are we now reading about how a false rape accusation resulted in four innocent men being severely beaten? Could it be that false rape accusations are extremely common and totally out of control?
Sun's position:
The PD is too tough on alleged victims who are often disbelieved.
Social worker, again you are "willfully missing the point". The point is, it is women who are shaming women for their Raunchy sexual exploits.
Again, in case you missedn the point again, it is women who are shaming other women for their Raunchy sexual behavoirs.
"Slw my point is == rape on campus is rampant, which is something the FRS continues to deny."
Evidence?
Go read Campus Rape Myth Maybe you'll learn something.
I wonder when we'll see pictures on the front of TIME magazine of guys' faces that have been smashed in by prison inmates while they waited to be cleared of a false rape accusation?
I'm sure this has been commented on before but I find this dynamic quite fascinating(in a horrific way):
I've noticed that a great number of the falsely accused happen to be black men accused by white women who, for some unspecified reason, seem to have more morning after regrets with them then white men.
All of these changes making it easier for women to cry rape and be believed means that the responsibility for racist oppression now rests in white women's hands.
Instead of the state subjugating black men overtly, we now have white women subjugating black men via the 'neutral' apparatus of the state.
Fascinating. Horrifying, but fascinating. The more things change, huh?
Typhonblue
Anonymous said...
So I cheated a little to get down on the FRS level :/
Does that make acquaintance rape okay?
Check out the rape at Drake Univ on frat bro raping frat bro. Listen pal, date rape goes on everywhere.
Aug 13, 2010 8:28:00 PM
"date rape goes on everywhere."
It does? It hasn't happened in my home. You have lost a major amount of credibilty. You lost the battle before you came to this site. OH yeah, no rape occured at my workplace last night or, over the last three years I have worked the. I work at a hotel. Please stop embarassing yourself.
If it weren't for the fact that I was falsely accused of a violent crime, I wouldn't be working at that shithole of a job. I have been tired of being shit on because I am a male.
Pardon my profanity but, that is how I feel.
Date rape is rare. False accusations are not.
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