BOXING champion Pat Clinton's son was held for three days in Greece over a false rape accusation.
Sean Clinton, 19, and a friend were on holiday with a group in Crete when a woman tourist accused them.
But after an agonising three days in custody, they were told there was no case to answer.
It is understood police found no evidence to prove that even consensual sex had taken place.
Last night, Sean was back home with his mum Carol in Kilsyth, Stirlingshire.
And former world flyweight champion Pat, known as "the boy from Croy" during his career, revealed they were considering suing his accuser.
Pat said: "Sean is now back home, thankfully, and has been told the matter is finished as far as any court case is concerned.
"It was a very stressful and worrying time - made worse by the language barrier.
"They were arrested on what was meant to be the last day of their holiday and were eventually released after a two-minute court appearance three days later."
Pat, 46, who went down to Manchester to pick up his son the day after his release, added: "He is fine, considering what has happened, and we are very relieved he is back home safe and well.
"Getting an interpreter was not particularly easy and was what held things up - otherwise he would have been home earlier."
Sean and his friend were arrested as they relaxed by the pool at their hotel.
Pat said: "The girl was staying with friends at the same hotel but she could not get back into her room.
"She stayed in Sean's room and everything seemed OK - then the police arrived the next day."
The accusation marked the end of a miserable holiday for Sean, who also required 20 stitches in a back wound after falling on to a piece of glass.
Mum Carol said: "My son is back home now safe and well and that is the main thing.
"It was a horrible week for him and us all, with his injury and this matter.
"I suppose the one thing you can take from it is how careful young people need to be on holiday."
A Foreign Office spokesman said: "Consular staff provided assistance following arrests in Greece."
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Wow! Greece sounds as bad as Orlando for false rape claims.
Glad to see the poor accuser retained her anonymity. Mustn't disturb the delicate flower by holding her accountable to trying to destroy a young man.
My question for the feminists is this: if there is so much underreporting, why do we have so many false rape claims? Oh, I know: we are supposed to assume there's rampant underreporting even though there is no evidence for that, and we are supposed to assume there are no false rape claims, even though the evidence shows they are rampant. Got it.
"Pat said: "The girl was staying with friends at the same hotel but she could not get back into her room.
"She stayed in Sean's room and everything seemed OK - then the police arrived the next day.""
Well, that'll teach'em 'bout trying to do something nice for someone else.
Given that the police found nothing to even indicate consensual sex, and as neither Pat nor Sean made any claims of "the sex was consensual", it seems likely that there was no sex - just the thoughtful gesture of letting a young women in some distress have a safe place to stay the night.
And the reward? Being accused of rape (or, as it seems, gang rape), of course.
As is still all too typical, the news story makes no mention as to why the young woman, kindly taken in by strangers, would turn on them.
One quick guess is that amongst those "friends" she was staying with was her boyfriend, who demanded to know where she'd been.
Of course, as we've seen so many times before, crying rape works well for woman as a "get out of anything" card. Good chance that's what happen here.
Of course, the underlying situation begs the questions, "why was she locked out of her room?" And, "Why couldn't she get help from either her friends or the hotel staff to get back in?"
Another quick guess is that she wished to get away from those friends, perhaps even to look for a little "side action", and the old "I'm locked out of my room" story worked well to get her attention and sympathy.
Well, it's all just speculation when the media fails to explain things better.
Even if her boyfriend wasn't around, or even if she didn't have one, the girlfriends aren't to be trusted to keep their mouths shut -- to her boyfriend, her parents, you name it.
Sadly, they KNOW they can get away with the "rape" lie because everytime an alleged rape is reported, it is treated with the national solemnity of the dropping of the atomic bomb.
"Wow! Greece sounds as bad as Orlando for false rape claims."
Well, maybe it's just something to do for women on vacation.
Anonymous - "Well, maybe it's just something to do for women on vacation."
That is undoubtedly a significant factor.
We are regularly treated to glowing accounts of women's sex liberation in full flower while "on holiday".
Yet, we are also aware that scientific study has repeatedly shown that women are also highly likely to experience regret over having had casual sex.
The modern liberated women's desire to behave as badly as (the worst of) men, is bound to have many serious collisions with women's innate tendency to regret it afterwards - leading to the very distinct possibility of many a woman trying to explain her own poor choices on the man who "forced her" to do it.
Still, it does seem that as more and more women do it, they (collectively) are being believed less and less.
Greece may be experiencing a rash of FRA's, or it may just be that authorities are catching on, doing proper investigations, and uncovering them more frequently (even thought they've actually been occurring with comparable frequency for some time now).
It's anyone's guess right now.
"Wow! Greece sounds as bad as Orlando for false rape claims."
For now. Unfortnately Grek culture has for centuries tended to see women as less-than-rationa;, not fully human. Expect to see the police on Kos at least to turn a deaf ear to accusations coming from big old Swedish women. And that'll be wrong too.
OT: something I came across in a book I was reading about the philosophy/ideology of new labour. It's called Against the Third Way and is written by Alex Callinicos, a Marxist critic of the mainstream left. This book came out in 2001 and refers to the then Justice Secretary Jack Straw and the party's ideological guru Anthony Giddens:
"Giddens ... asserts that liberty is something that can be maximized, so that it's OK to override individual liberties so long as 'the sum of available liberties' is increased. This is about as serious an argument as the justification that is often given (for example, by Jack Straw) for reducing the rights of suspects that this will protect the rights of the victims of crime - rights that often seem to come down to that of victims of their families to see convicted whoever the police claim is guilty of the crime in question irrespective of the actual evidence against them."
I know that the discussions about Labour and the coalition government where some time back, but it just goes to show that the kind of arguments made against rape anonymity were not ones created to be contrarian to the coalition government's plans. Labour people actually think that way. Shockingly fucked up.
"Still, it does seem that as more and more women do it, they (collectively) are being believed less and less."
That is true, and going back to Archivist's comment about "unreported", in spite of all of these changes in the law supposedly designed to help women come forward is, while the population of the U.S. has increased, the number of rape reports has decreased.
This does not mean that all rapes are already reported, and there isn't any room for improvement. Technically, all crime is under-reported. That's one justification why Uncle Sam counts reports, as opposed to arrests or convictions, as the number of crimes occurred. There isn't any evidence -- in terms of raw numbers -- that under-reporting for rape is any more significant than any other crime.
However, the logically unavoidable result of all of these legal changes that make reports of rape easier -- regardless whether they are true or false -- is that the quality of the reports would decline. Which is what we are starting to hear from the press.
Now, considering that law enforcement is neither stupid nor evil as some frequent commenters to this blog claim, what do you think their reaction would be to this inevitable increase in the ratio of false reports? Would they be more or less likely to believe reports of rape?
So if women who actually have been raped are less likely to be believed, would they be more or less likely to come forward? For forty years feminists have been telling women that the police won't believe them. Now, due to changes in the law that the feminists wanted, that is more likely to be true.
While many might find the following conclusion extreme, it's not entirely implausible that 90,000 reports of rape do represent 90,000 actual rapes, but very few of the same incidents. That given the current legal situation, it is possible that both 97% of rape reports are false, and 97% of actual rapes are unreported. What we tend to forget with all of these grown women making false reports, the one and perhaps only thing that criminologists and feminist surveys both agree is that rape victims are young. The median age is between 17-18 years old.
Archivist, is there any way someone from yer team could interview this guy to get his story so we all could read it?? I would volunteer to do an onterview with this guy if i could say i a journalist from the false rape society. I beleive it would also be a great way to reach out to these young men who have been through hell. I have been falselly accused of a rape that simply never happened, and i wish to god there was someone reaching out to help me,or to at least get my story, but there were not.
Give these young men who have been put through F@@king hell over a false rape accusation a "voice" at the false rape society.
It would help them, and it would help yer cause.
next time she'll make an FRA
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1302057/So-really-happened-mother-claimed-bus-driver-ordered-breastfeeding.html
"a journalist from the false rape society"
That'll carry a lotta weight :/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1302156/DNA-fingerprinting-wrong-results.html
read the whole article, DNA rape conviction...
@Archivist
"Wow! Greece sounds as bad as Orlando for false rape claims."
It makes one wonder why that might be the case. I have a hypothesis that, as the local economy in a given area declines, there is a corresponding increase in rape claims (both false and valid). It's ironic that the US is currently bucking the trend on crime rates:
http://www.allbusiness.com/crime-law-enforcement-corrections/criminal-offenses-crimes/14592648-1.html
"WASHINGTON, D.C. - Crime in the United States dropped dramatically in 2009, bucking a historical trend that links rising crime rates to economic woes. Property crimes and violent offenses each declined about 5 percent, the FBI said Monday, citing reports from law enforcement coast to coast.
It was the third straight year of declines, and this year’s drops were even steeper than those of 2007 and 2008, despite the recession.
There were words of caution from experts.
"It’s fabulous news, but I would draw an analogy to global warming: Even if you believe the long-term trend is increasing temperatures, it doesn’t mean you can’t have a cold year," said Jonathan P. Caulkins, a professor of public policy at Carnegie Mellon University’s Heinz College. "
So, the question is, what other similarities are there between Greece and Orlando, Florida?
It would be helpful to come up with a theory that explains "false rape claim clusters" similar to what Jim Berkland has done for earthquake prediction: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/berkland-jim/6064
Anonymous said...
Give these young men who have been put through F@@king hell over a false rape accusation a "voice" at the false rape society.
It would help them, and it would help yer cause.
Aug 11, 2010 5:35:00 PM
They are not barred from visiting this site.
I would encorage all who are the victims of FRAs' and False sexual assaults' to visit this site.
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