Ben Roethlisberger was not charged with rape for the now-infamous incident that occurred in Georgia last March because of discrepancies in the alleged victim's accounts about their interaction. Now, police videotapes of interviews with witnesses have been released.
The two videos of the interview with the accuser are here. The accuser's identity is shielded.
We've previously reviewed the three statements made by the accuser to police. The first was an oral statement; the next two were written by the accuser. We explained that the accuser's explanation about what occurred can aptly be described as a moving target. She lacked credibility because her three statements to police within several hours of the "incident" suggested the evolving narrative of a woman groping for victimhood. Trace the progression of the three statements: The accuser's (1) "No" in response to a question about whether she was raped, and her "I'm not sure" if she and Roethlisberger even had sex, were later transformed into (2) the accuser claiming she told Ben "I don't know if this is a good idea" before they had sex, which was later transformed into (3) the accuser claiming she told Ben "no, this is not OK" before they had sex.
In the video interview, apparently conducted after the other three statements, she goes even further and flatly says she did "not agree" to sex with Roethlisberger. She claims that Roethlisberger had his penis exposed and was ready for action at the time he pursued her into a darkened bathroom, and that she said: "No. This is not right. I do not agree to this." (The "I do not agree to this" is in a different universe than "I'm not sure" if they even had sex and "I don't know if this is a good idea.") In the bathroom, she claims they did have sex (and that is markedly different than her earlier statement where she said she wasn't sure if they had sex), and that he actually penetrated her (something a woman would likely know when it happened -- but she didn't in her initial statement). But even here in the video interview, she couldn't remember what position they were in (of all the details, I suspect that's the one that would be most memorable). She also claims she told him all the while: "No. We really shouldn't be doing this." And: "We really don't need to do this." And: "This really isn't OK." And he kept insisting it was OK, "I promise."
It is fair to say that the accuser's memory would have been best in the time right after the alleged incident. Here, immediately after the incident, she gave no indication that she was raped. But with the passage of time, the accuser's statements sounded more and more like rape. To see the evolution a rape claim from total uncertainty to total certainty -- from "I'm not sure" if we even had sex to I told him "I do not agree" to have sex, but they had it anyway -- is a very frightening lesson for innocent men. A cautionary tale to be ever vigilant that women like this are out there.
Wednesday, June 9, 2010
Video of police interview with Roethlisberger accused released
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I have not heard the whole interview yet but from what I have heard she dose NOT sound very drunk.
And I also wonder if Ben has any DNA?
Because he did not leave any on her after brutally raping her as she alleges.
Considering you leave dna even on a cigarette just from it touching your lips.
You would think after a brutal rape you would leave a little bit.
She seems to remember everything in great detail except she can not remember what position she was brutally raped in?
Welcome to the united states guys.
Anon, this was apparently conducted days after the event. In conjunction with her earlier statements -- this is frightening to see her narrative inching ever closer to rape as time goes by.
This little porker pig wanted cash from Roethlisberger, and the perversion in our law enforcement community allows her to "Roll the dice" to see if she wins.
Wouldn't DNA not be present if a condom was worn?
WHY does this keep coming up like it's some big validation?
Seriously. Someone please explain to the dumb kid why a condom worn, then flushed, is not considered an option here.
The courts’ reliance on witnesses is built into the common-law judicial system, a reliance
that is placed in check by the opposing counsel’s right to cross-examination—an
important component of the adversarial legal process—and the law’s trust of the jury’s
common sense. The fixation on witnesses reflects the weight given to personal
testimony. As shown by recent studies, this weight must be balanced by an awareness
that it is not necessary for a witness to lie or be coaxed by prosecutorial error to
inaccurately state the facts—the mere fault of being human results in distorted memory
and inaccurate testimony.
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Elizabeth Loftus performed experiments in the mid-seventies demonstrating the effect of ... Eyewitness Testimony: Psychological ...
agora.stanford.edu/sjls/images/pdf/engelhardt.pdf
It is a very serious perversion of our legal system that has fostered and enabled this current false rape culture we now find ourselves in.
The accuser was asked if he wore a condom, she said no. She also said in one statement that she told him "let's go to the bathroom". There are transcripts of that conversation at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette online.
She did claim she didn't remember position in THIS interview. However, in a previous interview, she says he had sex with her while she was sitting on the toilet. Again the Pitt P-G has some of the stuff on their site. In fact there is an interesting audio interview with the Police Officer who interviewed her, and he was confused as to how a 6'5'' male could have sex with her while she was sitting on the toilet.
From his interview, the cop seemed wholly unconvinced that the accuser was telling the truth.
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