Tuesday, April 6, 2010

Travesty of justice: Kevin Ibbs remembered

One of our readers, men's rights advocate Gwallan, brought up the name Kevin Ibbs in a comment to another post. Most Americans have never heard of Mr. Ibbs, but his tragic story is worth telling.

In September 2008, Kevin Ibbs was found dead under a bridge, his life in shambles since the 1980s when a woman named Christine Elizabeth Watson accused him of failing to withdraw for thirty seconds after she withdrew conent. Mr. Ibbs was sentenced to four years imprisonment for that purported thirty second transgression, but was released after six months. In 1997, Ms. Watson admitted to police that she and Mr Ibbs’ ex-wife, Katrina Ann Carter, "had set him up" -- get this -- "to get him out of the house they had all been living in." According to the news report about his death: "Both women were convicted of conspiring to pervert the course of justice and each spent seven months in jail. Mr Ibbs was acquitted in 2001 and the case became widely regarded as a travesty of justice. Mr Ibbs’ career had been ruined, his health had been affected and the case had cost him more than one million dollars. He recently appeared in the Mandurah Magistrates Court and was on bail for firearms-related offences at the time of his death. He was 56 years old."

Ibbs was one of the first to be charged under a new law which made continued penetration without consent aggravated sexual assault. It's interesting to note: "Another of the early cases involved a man who was also wrongfully convicted and eventually compensated." Big surprise. Go figure.

In 2001, after Mr. Ibbs was finally acquitted, four years after it was revealed he'd been set up (yet another example of our system correcting wrongs to the falsely accused at something worse than a snail's pace), he told an interviewer that he found no solace in it. Another big surprise there. "I'm the original living dead - the tissue on the outside's alive but there's nothing inside. That's it. It's gone for that long that the poison's just eaten it away." He was asked how his time behind bars changed him: "Whenever there's a rape anywhere, you're waiting for the knock on the door. Please explain where you were. I've had the task force come through and luckily I was living with my Uncle and he said where I was. I didn't have to say anything. He said no, he's been here." He related the cost of his ordeal: "It's cost me over a million and a quarter . . .. My life - 14 years - they can't give that back to me. I haven't seen my daughter for 14 years. I've been ruined as a tradesman and I don't know how my health is." Oh, and he received no compensation for his ordeal. Of course.

How many more cases like this must we report to illustrate the frightening power women hold over men and boys with uncorroborated tales of sexual misconduct? A man's life was destroyed, literally, by a calculated conspiracy designed to get him out of the house. The women were sentenced to seven months (who knows how long they actually served) in exchange for destroying a life. The ultimate lesson is that so long as women are permitted to destroy men and boys with rape lies without serious punishment -- rape lies told for selfish and petty ends -- there will be more and more victims like Kevin Ibbs.

The case also raises a disturbing question about proportionality in sentencing. The sexual act started out consensually. Even if the accuser's story were true, Mr. Ibbs failed to withdraw for thirty seconds. Thirty seconds. Yet he was sentenced to four years in prison, and his life was destroyed forever. Do the math: thirty seconds, versus the rest of a man's life. Has our zero tolerance for all male sex crimes eaten away our ability to deal fairly? Whatever happened to the concept that the punishment must fit the crime? I promise you that countless young men have burglarized homes or robbed convenience stores and received lesser sentences, and that for many of those, their lives haven't been destroyed by the stigma of their crimes. Rape, aggravated sexual assault and similar offenses carry a stigma unlike any other. Sadly, our criminal justice system just doesn't care about that.

Thirty seconds? Hell, that's nothing. Remember Maoloud Baby, the 16-year-old boy who was convicted of raping an 18-year-old woman in the back of her car? In that case, the woman testified that she told the boy he could have sex with her if he stopped when she told him to, but she claimed that when she yelled for him to stop, he continued for five to 10 seconds. He did not ejaculate but withdrew. He and his "victim" drove to a McDonalds, they hugged, she gave him her phone number, and he left. The boy was convicted of first degree rape and other offenses for delaying withdrawal for as little as five seconds.

Folks, our system is broken when things like this can even get to a jury. It comes down to this: as a culture, we need to grow up. We need to stop regarding human beings with penises as armed and dangerous. We need to stop using the first available pair of balls as an excuse to make a statement about purported female oppression and subjugation. It's time rape feminists realized that if they truly want women to be empowered and regarded as full and equal members of the human race, they have to stop pretending women are powerless. And women need to be held fully accountable when they do terrible things like lie about rape.

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm in college. Not to get graphic, but recently, my g/f was giving me a b/j and I told her to stop because I was in some discomfort (believe it or not, bad leg cramp). She was really trying to pleasure me so she kept going for maybe fifteen seconds. She finally stopped, and I told her I was in discomfort but thanked her for trying to pleasure me. The idea that my g/f sexually assaulted me or that she should go to jail for what she did is just sickening to me. Did I want her to stop? Shit, yeah. But was I defiled by what she did? Was my life I scarred? Was my dignity assaulted? COME OFF IT! IT WAS FIFTEEN SECONDS!

I get sick reading some of the stories on this blog (don't take that the wrong way, this blog does a great service). The people who treat men like shit just because they're men are cruel beyond words, and you need to keep spreading the word.

Anonymous said...

College man, thanx for stopping by.

Anonymous said...

Folks mistakenly think the gender feminist perversion of society is all women.
I have heard from a reliable sourse that the gay male proffessors at Duke university who sold their son on the internet about 9 months ago were some of the staunchest gender feminists in the university. I think peodophiles know inherently that if they get the males out of the way, then they have unfetterd access to children.

Archivist said...

Anon at 9:01 -- I second the other reader: thanks for sharing.

We are stranded in an era where common sense has gone out the window; where, as you say, some people are cruel beyond words, and selfish beyond imagining. Part of it is alcohol; part of it is hooking up with strangers. And, yes, part of it is ideologically driven. But to throw good people under the bus with rape lies, or because he didn't withdraw quickly enough -- it's all sick beyond words.

Anonymous said...

"Ibbs was one of the first to be charged under a new law which made continued penetration without consent aggravated sexual assault."

How do laws like that even get passed?

I'm hardly an expert on contract law, but in what other area is an agreement to do something not an agreement to do something? Remember how Antioch College instituted this "Sexual Offense Prevention Policy" where consent must be "reiterated for every new level of sexual behavior"? Failure to comply could result in expulsion or worse. So it was like they turned sex into this sick game combining "Mother May I" with "Russian Roulette" where only the men could get shot. There was even a written checklist to be filled out and signed.

Now as ridiculous as that sounds, according to this law, having such detailed express prior consent -- even in writing -- is no prevention against "aggravated sexual assault". And it is certainly no protection against being falsely accused. A woman could say that she simply changed her mind, or that she was so drunk that she didn't know what she was signing.

If "no means no", then why doesn't "yes mean yes"?

Anonymous said...

You see folks "Rape hysteria" and the juggernaut behind it, is no longer about "protrcting women"...It is NOW more about the "POWER AND CONTROL" that "rape hysteria" gives the gender / Raunch Elite on college campusses.
Veru little social engineering on college campusses is done without the Gender / Raunch community giving their approval. This would seem ???silly?? if it were not the truth.

AfOR said...

Since it appears that no matter what the "sex crime" laws are, a significant proportion of women will abuse them, and since there is no proportionality is sentencing between the falsely convicted / accused, and the false accuser, I can only see one solution.

Annul all "sex crime" laws.

Women will then be dependent once again on chaperones etc.

Cry me a river.

Anonymous said...

Folks, our system is broken when things like this can even get to a jury

You're actually better off just opting for a bench trial rather than having a brain dead jury decide. A judge is going to be a lot more careful and worried about how he looks by finding a man guilty who didn't stop for 10 seconds.

Anonymous said...

AFOR says

"Annul all "sex crime" laws."

I say, gender feminist perverts will take this out of context, and use this as propaganda against us.

Chef Snark said...

I don't think sex crime laws need to be annulled.

Since men are the primary victims of rape, they simply need to be applied differently.

Much more attention to rape prevention in prisons, much less attention to crying little girls who simply feel 'upset'.

AfOR said...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/8605990.stm


Marske woman stabbed to death on day of divorce party


Well, we can expect to see more of this sort of thing too.

Chef Snark said...

Holding a party to celebrate her financial raping and humiliation of him, hmm?

Whoops, there goes my sympathy.

He doesn't deserve any punishment for this. Clearly there are limits to how far you can push a man before he does something like this.

Archivist said...

The streamer aspect was out of Batman.

Reminds me of the woman who was killed after laughing at the man over the false rape claim she made that sent him to prison.

While we don't know what went on in that marriage, I mean -- having a picture of him with "pin the tail on the X"? Celebrating a man's misery?

Yeah, I don't condone any killing but why do women humiliate men in this manner?

Anonymous said...

A judge is going to be a lot more careful and worried about how he looks by finding a man guilty who didn't stop for 10 seconds.
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Ha ha!

slwerner said...

Archivist - "Yeah, I don't condone any killing but why do women humiliate men in this manner?

While I don't condone murder either, I am reminded that Clara Harris ran down, and circled around multiple times to finish him off, for no more provocation that that her husband was having an affair.

the murdered women her not only had an affair, she divorce her husband, and proceed to mock him [tacky enough if it had been him who had cheated on and dumped her].

But, just as Clara Harris was widely celebrated by other women for her actions, this woman was getting her own round of "you go grrl"s. Easy to understand why someone might snap. Hell, what he endured was even more acute a humiliation than being made to wear sexy high heels (that most women would kill for) while making love.

Give the guy a few months in a mental hospital, and see if Oprah will have him on.

Chef Snark said...

Why do we object to Marcella Chester's nonsense? I think some women are very acute. And that's the end of that.

Skye Riley said...

Ive got to say this..... !!!!!! His lawyers protect him way too much!!!! Kevin Ibbs molested me at 13 on mothers day cos i was naughty! He pahed my younger sister goodnight bfore molesting her at 11 n my youngest sister at 10!!!!! He tried to kill me when i was 14. i was a homeless kid for 4 yrs cos of this man !!!! Dnt u dare have pity for him !!!!!!!! He always tried to kill our mother in front of us very young too.....!!!!!! later her caught her sliced her throat from ear to ear stabbed her in the chest in front of onlookers but she lived a very fearful life for a long time- its not his 1st wife it was his 2nd!!!!! You dont know how evil this man was u shld never had praised him !!!!!!!!!

Kez said...

I was 9 yrs old my sisters 11,12 and 13. Our mum and us girls lived with Kevin ibbs , this monster put us al thru hell and back twice !!! I still remember like it was yesterday, the nights even afternoons he would come into our bedroom and close the door behind him , the splatter of blood all over the carpet, walls and ceilings once, twice a week , my sister getting dragged thru the front door by her hair only to be beaten with dumbells and steel cap boots making us watch until she was so still we thought she was dead, he would tell us if we told anyone wat he was doing he would kill our mum then kill us, he chased our mother down the street to try and kill her, in front of my eyes - a little girl - i saw this man cutting my mothers throat and stabbing her chest. What I have told u is only a small part of what he put us thru . I am 34 yrs old now and I still have nightmares , Kevin ibbs has taken away the innocence of 4 children and their mother, that monster had no right to live after what he has done and what he has taken from us , he should of been hung in 1988.

Anonymous said...

pls contact me kez skye.riley@live.com.au

Kez said...

All I ever read about kevin ibbs is about how his life was ruined. , 24 yrs its been since Kevin abused me and my family in ways that you couldn't imagine in ur worst nightmares , I struggle with these memories every day I wake up. I am absolutely disgusted in how people can defend him , clearly if u had any idea of what he was really like, u would have sympathy for those 2 women who probably did what they did because they were afraid, Kevin would say to me and no doubt my sisters too, that if we ever told anyone of what he was doing to us ,that he would come after us and kill us but first kill our mother, I was petrified of this man. When me and my sisters case was heard regarding kevin ibbs in the supreme courts , the male police officer on guard had tears in his eyes , kevin was found guilty and sentenced to Fremantle prison, when he was released he found out where our mother was living , and attacked her in the middle of the street trying to kill her , I was walking with my mother to the bank in kelmscott on the day he did this over 20 years ago and I still remember looking back that day seeing kevin with a knife on my mums throat and blood everywhere .
KEVIN NEIL IBBS - what he done for my mother , my sisters and myself-
MOLESTATION
RAPE
GREVIOUS BODILY HARM WITH INTENT TO KILL
INDECENT DEALINGS WITH CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS 9 YRS OLD
AGGREVATED ASSAULT TOWARDS CHILDREN
PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY SCARING 4 CHILDREN AND THEIR MOTHER.

And that's only FACTS that I am aware of , who knows, what he did before and after me and my family was involved, I'm only speaking of a short period between 1988-1990.
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Anonymous said...

kerry its me Anne x

Anonymous said...

Hello Anne , I've looked everywhere for records, I can't find any , I think it is so wrong that the worst sexual predators like kevin are able to get their record expunged. So much for protecting the innocent , what a load of crap .

Anonymous said...

Yep! Its so wrong he got away with what he did to myself n my beautiful young sisters, we was so innocent only growing up with our mother and he wreckd everything within months we was taken frm our mother. Our innocence ruined, our trust in shambles our lives changed. Kevin Ibbs tried to take my life when i was just 14 i was working full time too- but cld not return to work i had to go back to being a street kid. Every day i worried for my young sisters but cld not ever face this mutt again. When my bby sister had to witness her own mother get stabbed n throat cut frm ear to ear it was heartbreaking... He changed us as individuals and as a family we once were. No matter what my sisters n i have been thru i love em to death i just hope they all know it. AND UR MUM IS DYIN TO SEE U ALL SHE LOVES U JUST LIKE A MUM SHLD. BUT U HAVE TO LET HER