They staged a topless parade down a busy public street "to bring attention to what they claim is a double standard when it comes to the public display of upper torsos." Yet protest organizer Ty MacDowell said she was not happy by the number of men who showed up with cameras.
"I'm really upset by the men … all the men that are here, just like watching it like it's a parade," she said.
Um, that's because -- it was a parade?
MacDowell said the point of the march was that a topless woman out in public "shouldn't attract any more attention than a man who walks around without a shirt."
Did you get that? Squint hard and read it again. Maybe that was your point, Ms. McDowell -- trust me, men don't care about your point. Men saw multiple naked breasts bouncing down the street, and millions of years of hard-wired Y-chromosome instinct kicked in.
"We should be able to walk down the street and not have this many men taking pictures of us," a participant shouted.
Really? Exactly why would you think that, my dear? Just as you are allowed to show off your naked breasts in public, men are allowed to admire them, to be aroused by them, to make fun of them, to take pictures of them. Why on earth would you think men's freedom should be restricted just because you say so?
You want to give teenage boys erections, knock yourselves out. But don't complain that men are paying too much attention to your naked boobs.
Let me amend that -- you should be able to parade around topless without men paying attention to your breasts -- if men and women were the same. The fact that you don't know they are different tells us everything we need to know about the idiocy that is modern feminism.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20001737-504083.html and http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/topless-women-protestors-surprised-upset-as-men-show-up-with-cameras/story-e6frfku0-1225850121971
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What makes this so arrogant and brazen on the part of the women involved, is that it is in fact illegal to do what they are doing in some areas of the US. The want to eat their cake and have it too.
They would do well to read some Kant and Schopenhauer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative
Don't you get it, guys?
THEY WANT TO BE SEEN, WITHOUT BEING SEEN.
What's so hard to understand about this? The poor dears have been so oppressed for so long. It's about time we stepped back and let them objectify themselves.
If they can do whatever they want in public, then surely we can do whatever we want with our eyes and cameras.
Feminists want to be free in every imaginable way but they also want us to subsidize their freedom, and simultaneously want us to be slaves even in our own minds.
While we're at it, why don't they have a parade in which men walking around with no pants? Let's be consistent about this, ladies (for once). Let's see them complain when the no-pants men attract too much attention.
I believe women are the ones that got offended of bare breast and got it banned.
For example, I remember reading or watching about women that breast fed in public and it was women that usually got upset not men.
If society changed nudity would not be a problem. Feminist are the reason nudity in society is taboo.
RR
"Feminist are the reason nudity in society is taboo."
That is not true. The taboo against nudity not only predates feminism, it predates the United States.
You had me at topless...
:)
Excellent ScareCrow!
I'm a guy and I think that women should have the right to be topless anywhere that a guy can be.
BUT if you choose to go topless you also give up any right to complain about people looking at you.
I used to lift weight constantly and I was pretty muscular and when I had my shirt off people would stare at me so I have no sympathy for women who choose to go topless and have people look at them.
Also is areas where it is illegal to go topless women should be put on a sex offender registry for indecent exposure just as a guy would if he was naked.
Enough double standards all the way around!
To add to my above post I think these women are doing this for hatefull reasons rather than equality.
I don't like that at all.
After women have covered up their chests for hundreds of years it's going to cause a stir if they walk around topless.
The tone of this parade should be that it is ok to look and enjoy....just as it would be if a guy had his shirt off.
If women routinely walked around topless, the sight would lose much of its -- for want of a better word -- titillation effect. Unfortunately, we live in a prudish culture, where "modesty" itself is often its own near occasion of sin. If you flooded the streets with bare breasts, there would far fewer erections at the mere thought of them. Yes, for a time, it would be extremely distracting, but that, too, would go away.
I don't remember if this link was posted back when we were discussing Jaclyn Friedman's modern feminist idiocy, but this article from K.C. Johnson is worth reading:
http://www.mindingthecampus.com/forum/2010/03/a_nightmare_proposal.html
The "ideas" of the Ukrainian feminist movement Femen are much more sexy:
http://un.ua/eng/article/139499.html
http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/news10195.html
""Enough raping our democracy!'' shouted the protesters, who held signs with slogans such as "Help! Rape!''"
Ah, yes.
EVERYTHING is rape!
Why, women are being lung-raped by the very air they breathe.
Protests are about gaining attention. They got attention. Problem = what?
Besides, they might have been taking pictures because the circus is hiring, not because the bare bodies were attractive. Barnum and Bailey can always use another topless feminist to draw the morbidly curious.
Generally most real feminists are not women who would draw attention in a good way by showing their breasts. The looks and pictures taken were probably in reality making fun of them behind their backs.
CBGirl
relevant video i guess:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33q0FIMBWZw&playnext_from=TL&videos=oSj_lE9Lu4c
You know, it's really funny, but in the CBS link, if you look at the picture in the article, the one person with a camera phone.... wait for it..... is a woman.
Funny that.
"the one person with a camera phone.... wait for it..... is a woman."
Clearly she is suffering from a bout of internalised sexism.
She just needs to see THE LIGHT, Steven!
Archivist said...
"If you flooded the streets with bare breasts, there would far fewer erections at the mere thought of them. Yes, for a time, it would be extremely distracting, but that, too, would go away."
This is the goal of radical feminists, to desensitize all heterosexual men. When I was in college, I was verbally bashed by militants who claimed that if I am sexually aroused by women's breasts at all, I am mentally ill and in need if lesbian feminist psychotherapy. These people were not joking, they were completely serious and were dedicated to the goal of a separatist society.
I got two words for ya: National Geographic.
It's been done.
"This is the goal of radical feminists, to desensitize all heterosexual men."
Of course it isn't. Radical feminists are absolutely dependent on men's continued attraction to women. It is the only form of power women can claim over men, though it is often reified by both feminists and some MRAs, especially PUAs.
The utopia they seek is one in which women hold the keys to male sexual fulfillment, and men have no say over their own sexual wellbeing. Men would have to grovel to women to get any kind of satisfaction.
If they wanted to desensitise men, you would think they would be advocating for porn to be legal and everywhere.
Instead, they're against it, because it takes away their own sexual power. Because porn is an alternative to grovelling to women. The same applies to prostitution and sex dolls. Feminists oppose all these because they do not want men to become desensitised. They are fully aware that they can abuse the male reaction to female flesh and use it as a mechanism of control.
Chef Snark said...
"This is the goal of radical feminists, to desensitize all heterosexual men."
Of course it isn't. Radical feminists are absolutely dependent on men's continued attraction to women. It is the only form of power women can claim over men, though it is often reified by both feminists and some MRAs, especially PUAs.
Nailed it.
Anon,
The shaming you received from feminists is all part of the abuse/manipulation.
Allure and shame. These are the twin mechanisms, the cultural pincer movement, of feminist control.
Intentionally exploit men's base desires, then make them feel guilty for it. Make them feel ashamed of being sexual.
It is something I wrote about here.
However, the issue of desensitisation, had not occurred to me at the time.
Something to add:
Intentionally exploit men's base desires, then make them feel guilty for it. Make them feel ashamed of being sexual - when it is the women themselves who provoked these feelings.
It is a nasty, manipulative state of affairs.
This topic, in fact, slots in perfectly.
The women wanted men to see them, in all their (imagined) sexual glory.
They wanted the men to be captivated and titillated, wanting, needing, more.
Men taking photos of them throws a spanner in their works, for obvious reasons.
I.e. it means that the men, so wowed by their (imagined) Goddess-like beauty, don't have to beg and grovel to them to satiate those desires.
So ... the feminists failed.
Utterly failed!
Maybe they need to make it illegal, so that these snotwads can go on the sex offender database. That's what would happen to men if they behaved like this.
Radical feminists are absolutely dependent on men's continued attraction to women.
****
And perhaps more importantly, on men's continued coddling and pity for the all of the unique problems that women hallucinate they have.
"And perhaps more importantly, on men's continued coddling and pity for the all of the unique problems that women hallucinate they have."
Indeed.
It is the true sign of privilege that one can endlessly invent ways in which one is 'disadvantaged' compared to others.
Men, meanwhile, are the primary victims of rape, and their suffering is a punchline.
I said...
"This is the goal of radical feminists, to desensitize all heterosexual men."
Chef Snark said...
"Of course it isn't. Radical feminists are absolutely dependent on men's continued attraction to women."
I think you misunderstood my post, perhaps I should be more specific. Study up on Separatist Feminism. The abuse I received was real, I wish you could have been there to witness it.
Trust me, I didn't doubt your abuse for one moment.
All I'm saying is, they were shaming you, but not because they wanted to desensitise you.
If you became desensitised, they wouldn't be able to shame you any more, would they?
The thing is, for feminists, the suffering of men is the end in itself, not a means to some other end.
They just want you to feel pain: as much as possible. Which includes refusal to acknowledge your pain, or their own culpability. That is feminism 101.
They don't want to desensitize you! That want to teach you new tools to help you deal with all of the problems you suffered because of too much patriarchy. (No joke: that was up on feministing: let's teach men new tools so they can deal with their emotions!)
In other words, they don't just want to impose feminism: they want to make it work -- for you as well as for them.
They want you to be perfect little Stepford Husbands who would never, ever behave like Tiger Woods! "Shutup, be happy."
"that was up on feministing: let's teach men new tools so they can deal with their emotions!"
Strange, because if either sex can be said to competently 'deal with their emotions', it is most certainly men.
E.g. men do not throw a fit and start bawling in a crowded restaurant because someone else has the same outfit.
That is what I would call the mismanagement of emotions.
Male stoicism, on the other hand, is not a lack of emotion, but the complete inner control of emotion.
Women, so anally-expulsive, cannot comprehend a calm and reasoned response to situations which they would respond to by bursting into tears or making a false accusation.
This is why they 'figure' that men do not have emotions, and are soulless brutes indifferent to everything, including their own suffering.
In reality, men can and do suffer greatly, very often at the hands of women, but we have the gifts of self-control and dignity. Men perceive sleights, and they brush them off. Women perceive sleights when they aren't even there, and attract everyone's attention by bursting into tears, getting everyone else involved.
It's pretty damn selfish, and it's quite clearly an example of unrestrained emotional turbulence.
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