Police say the woman in the story below lied that the man she killed had tried to rape her. If the police are correct, this woman is the personification of evil: she not only killed an innocent man, she tried to destroy his good name after he could no longer defend it.
Thanks to Kevin for the link.
‘Witch’ charged with slaying man during spring ritual
A rite of spring allegedly turned deadly for a New Mexico man.
A woman claiming to be a follower of Wicca, a pagan religion often associated with witchcraft, is accused of killing a man shed met an Albuquerque hiking trail with a dagger she said was to be used in ritualistic celebration of spring.
Angela Sanford told police that victim Joel Leyva, a man she had only just met, tied her arms, made “inappropriate sexual gestures,” and took the dagger from her, ABC News reports.
Sanford told police that she feared Leyva was going to rape her, and decided to take charge of the situation by wriggling free of the ropes and allowing him to believe he was being seduced. She allegedly pushed Leyva on his back, removed her clothing except for her underwear, and knelt on the ground over him. She then then stabbed Leyva “three times in the stomach area.”
Sanford allegedly left the scene, eventually asking a hiker to use a cell phone to call police.
But investigators found multiple inconsistencies in Sanford’s story of attempted rape. Leyva was actually stabbed 11 to 13 times in the head and torso, police said.
According to police reports, none of the witnesses saw Sanford fleeing the area or calling out for help, and her clothes were found folded at the scene.
“Sanford is currently facing a single count of murder, and she's being held on $500,000 bond,” Pat Davis of the Albuquerque District Attorney's office told ABC News today.
Albuquerque Police Department spokeswoman Nadine Hamby told ABC News that Sanford's claims of Wiccan beliefs have not influenced the investigation.
“A homicide is a homicide,” said Hamby.
Link: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/03/25/2010-03-25_witch_charged_with_slaying_man_during_ritual.html
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So even psycho murderers know that playing the rape card is guaranteed to shift things in their favour.
Alleged Rape is now used as a justification for absolutely everything.
Now we are seeing mainstream news stories that Jihadi female suicide bombers are "recruited" by being repeatedly raped so they have nothing to live for, cf the Black Widows who bombed the Moscow subway.
Right, AfOR. Note the boys recruited to be suicide bombers obviously are treated very well. Right.
It reminds me of the book:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_Home_%28novel%29
and the miniseries The Dark Secret of Harvest Home back in the late 70's with Betty Davis and David Ackroyd.
It is the ultimate feminist horror movie. A mini-series from 1978, The Dark Secret of Harvest Home tells the story of a young couple and their daughter that move to a remote New England town for the simple life. They get to meet the people of the town such as Widow Fortune (well played by Bette Davis), and they begin to notice there are some very strange things going on, such as pagan rites, in-bred neighbors, etc. The father is understandably concerned when he notices the people of the town’s strange fascination with his daughter. The nasty and shocking ending to the film could be seen as an extreme version of a feminist call to arms! Definitely a must see (and is one of Bette Davis' last performances before her death). It still gives me the creeps over 30 years later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bQt5dIp6AE&feature=related
AfOR - "So even psycho murderers know that playing the rape card is guaranteed to shift things in their favour."
As an historical retrospective, I'd agree. Yet, it seems to not be working so well anymore (this case, for instance).
Here, I'd point to what seems to be better training of the detectives who were able to determine that the fact that no one had witnessed her fleeing in a panic, her clothes being neatly folded, and the inconsistency between her statements and the actual observable wounds WAS sufficient to disbelieve what she was alleging.
If the police really did have a rape-hysteria agenda, this is a case where they could really have mishandled and had a meaningful impact. It would have served as a wonderful example of a politically correct character (the women) successfully defending herself against a politically incorrect character (the man) who had tried to oppress her wit the most devious tool in g the arsenal of the patriarchy. It would have made for a wonderful feminist-hero read.
But, as we can clearly see, the police were not fooled, and did not simply believe everything she claimed.
Furthermore, no VAWA grants were applied for based on her account, no invalid statistical point was included to misrepresent any criminal trend, and no one acting as and agent of LE encouraged her to come forward with her allegation. Any misuse of this case to help foster the climate of rape-hysteria was done by individuals and/or groups NOT associated with LE. [cut-n-paste boilerplate which could easily be applied to the majority of cases highlighted here]
AfOR - "Now we are seeing mainstream news stories that Jihadi female suicide bombers are "recruited" by being repeatedly raped so they have nothing to live for"
I would try to act surprised, and demand, "Are you serious!?"; however, I'm sad to say, I would actually have expected such unsubstantiated BS to come quickly from the mouths of the MSM - just as quickly as they could pry their lips from the gluteal regions of their politically correct idols.
We have a story running tomorrow about a police officer who killed himself after being accused of a rape -- for which police determined there was no evidence. Again, I am certain that the police are disgusted about such claims but they can only do so much.
I'm not an anti-pagan nut or anything, but it's worth mentioning in passing that Wicca is a very female-oriented, feminist-influenced religion.
On another subject, Maureen Dowd has more craziness in the NY Times today. In case anyone needs the entertainment.
Anonymous - "I'm not an anti-pagan nut or anything, but it's worth mentioning in passing that Wicca is a very female-oriented, feminist-influenced religion."
I had been wondering about the role her Wicca religion might have played in her motivation to murder.
I'm not particularly knowledgeable about Wicca, but it does seem to have a large influence WRT it's followers imagining that they are rediscovering (perhaps via some imagined channellings of ancient spirits), some ancient and long-forgotten ceremonies - especially tied to the changes in seasons (we do get a mention of a rite of spring here).
It therefore seems conceivable that a psycho-sexual ritual human sacrifice could well have been this womans intention.
After all, women today see little human value in men anyway. How else could the Marcella Chester's of the world turn a blind eye to the very real suffering of men falsely accused/wrongly imprisoned for rape? Gynocentric feminist indoctrination has taught them that only wymin really matter.
Although a ceremonial dagger was involved, this was probably just another mixed-up, angry broad committing a crime on impulse. If the killing was intended to have ritual significance it probably would have been committed in a far more organized manner.
And who knows? Maybe she didn't even do it. But yeah, Wicca is very, very female-oriented.
So much for the idea that wicca is "just another religion" - I cant recall the last time a Christian or Jew killed someone as part of a ritual!
Anonymous - "Although a ceremonial dagger was involved, this was probably just another mixed-up, angry broad committing a crime on impulse. If the killing was intended to have ritual significance it probably would have been committed in a far more organized manner."
So, perhaps, this was a case of her trying to get some (apparently random) guy to join her in some non-sacrificial ceremony?
He might have gone along with the part where she undressed and danced around, but then, perhaps, he started laughing at the sheer insanity of the whole pretentious affair; where upon, she went berserk, stabbing him repeatedly for having the audacity to laugh at her?
I suppose that would explain things just as well.
There have been plenty of murders committed by deranged Christians who thought they were doing God's work.
And Muslims. And Jews. And atheists, for whatever reason. I can't speak for other religions, but there isn't a single plausible basis to conclude that the Christian Bible justifies such misconduct. My guess is that wicca doesn't condone such acts, either, or else I suspect the gov't. could use the Rico laws to go after it. Criminals will always find a rationale to do what they want.
I am not Wiccan but in my business I have met many and know many who are in the same genre of art as I am. I don't know any of them who would do such a thing. The 'ones' I know would give you the shirt off their backs to help if you are in need.
I would imagine her being a Wiccan was just coincidence and it really had nothing to do with the murder itself.
Now, if she is a Satanist, then I believe they do do rituals like blood sacrifice.
Again, I am no way an expert. I just know a few Wiccans. lol I am a Christian.
CBGirl
I'm pretty sure that the only pagan religions involving actual sacrifices of animals are Santeria and the like.
Of course, all of this is secondary to the fact that the police have determined that a woman committed a false rape accusation in order to get away with a murder. If this is true then it is utterly reprehensible.
I hope the little gender/Raunch pig goes to jail for the rest of her life. Hopefully she does not get some "part time perversion" old man judge who lets her off with a slap on the wrist.
How come this isn't dominating main stream media??
Beacuse main stream media is now dominated by "gender feminist" perverts!!
Slwernre: "How else could the Marcella Chester's of the world turn a blind eye to the very real suffering of men falsely accused/wrongly imprisoned for rape?"
It's not that Marcella Chester turns a blind eye to the suffering of men. She just doesn't "focus" on their suffering. She focuses on the more acute problem of women being raped.
Inviting her to this site to increase ratings is despicable, knowing that if she were to accept harlan's invitation, she would be subjected to filth.
Intellectual debate is her forte, but why would she want to listen to filth and profanity?
Harlan would be wise to take a few etiquette lessons from Sacks and Johnson.
"She focuses on the more acute problem of women being raped."
False claims may, in fact, be more common. I don't know for sure, and neither do you, Marcella.
"Inviting her to this site to increase ratings is despicable, knowing that if she were to accept harlan's invitation, she would be subjected to filth."
Mr. Harlan to you, Marcella. In fact, you would be greeted with respect and challenged with pertinent queries. You ought to think about doing it. Seriously.
"Intellectual debate is her forte, but why would she want to listen to filth and profanity?"
I literally laughed out loud at that sentence. In all seriousness, we deal with objectively verifiable facts here, not victim metanarratives here, so you probably would be out of your realm here.
"Harlan would be wise to take a few etiquette lessons from Sacks and Johnson."
Mr. Harlan to you.
Mr. Harlan has made a hell of a lot more money than either of those gentlemen, is my guess. And, gee, every time a judge chides him for being vituperative or sarcastic . . . he somehow wins! Go figure.
"Inviting her to this site to increase ratings is despicable"
Were you invited? I don't think so!
Rape is not a more "accute" problem than false rape accusations. The victims of false rape accusations suffer many times more than rape victims do, and often serve horrific sentences for crimes they didn't commit. Please stop downplaying the pain caused by liars and their enablers.
I don't know who or what Marcella Chester is but I have no use for anybody who can't grasp those basic facts.
Guys, on another note, I thought you might enjoy this: http://digg.com/d31MU8V
The title: "French feminist calls children 'tyrants.'"
I am curious as to how the man was stabbed 11 to 13 times. Unless he was caught off guard, I would imagine he might have been restrained, perhaps as part of the ritual.
Actually, I just looked up Marcella Chester. She has a website called "Carnival Against Sexual Violence." (Apparently 'carnival' is a term for getting together on the internet and sharing experiences on a particular subject.)
Here is my question for Marcella Chester: since your website invites everybody to post their stories about being date-raped, how are you going to make sure that the stories are true? Is there going to be any filter at all, or are people free to make things up? How do you prevent liars from exploiting you and your website to get attention?
slwerner,
In your 1:52 post, I have to disagree with just one thing:
no invalid statistical point was included to misrepresent any criminal trend...
If the initial report was written up to include the rape accusation, then it will be included in the stats.
We know this, as those in the "Rape Industry" are always touting the "6% of reported" rapes end in a conviction. Funny, isn't it, that DOJ figures show that around 46% of all rapes cases that go to trial end in conviction?
The 6% figure means that they have concluded, before any investigation is ever conducted, that every report of rape is factual and true.
It makes absolutely no allowance for the large number that we know are determined by Law Enforcement to be false.
Only 46%? That sounds far too low.
A great president once said that the irrational hysteria that lynches the black man today, will be the same hysteria/klan menatlity that will consume all men (if this irrational hysteria is left un-challenged)!!
It is hard to imagine that the new gender feminist community are a bunch of hysterical (and now perverted) klan mob, who rule by mob hysteria, and will "in effect" lynch anyone who challenges their rule.
"If the initial report was written up to include the rape accusation, then it will be included in the stats."
While New Mexico or some local jurisdiction might produce their own statistics, the federal government no longer tallies numbers for "false" or "unfounded" reports of rapes. According to the the current green book, whenever a department determines that a complaint of a crime is "unfounded or false", it eliminates that offense from its crime tally. So, slwerner is correct, this datum would be excluded from the stats.
"I had been wondering about the role her Wicca religion might have played in her motivation to murder.
I'm not particularly knowledgeable about Wicca, but it does seem to have a large influence WRT it's followers imagining that they are rediscovering (perhaps via some imagined channellings of ancient spirits), some ancient and long-forgotten ceremonies - especially tied to the changes in seasons (we do get a mention of a rite of spring here).
It therefore seems conceivable that a psycho-sexual ritual human sacrifice could well have been this womans intention."
I am an occultist. I can clear this up for you.
Having spent many years as a practicing pagan, what I can tell you is that Wicca was basically invented in the 1960's by some very feminist types. Just as there are various sects of Christianity, Catholicism,Mormonism, Baptist, Methodist, and so on, there are various sects of Paganism, and Wicca has several different "styles" of practice.
If this woman happened to be Dianic Wiccan, I would almost certainly ascribe to her actions a "religious" motivation, as among Dianic Wiccans, man-hate is very much a part of their religion, just as much as the worship of ancestor spirits and Nature and possibly even more so.
It is very rare for Pagans to sacrifice anything and the subject is verboten in most occult communities, earning you the label of pariah more surely than if you were a leper. I know this firsthand, as I personally believe in animal sacrifice in the name of religion, but not animal sacrifice as it is portrayed in movies and the media. The original intent of an animal sacrifice was to share the unusable parts,such as the blood or entrails, of an animal selected for a religious feast with one's deities. The idea of an animal sacrifice is basically to show appreciation for the animal you are eating and to remember that one cannot afford to waste precious resources,even so, in the pagan community, even an idea that goes hand in hand with the central tenets of most pagan religions is not allowed to be raised without rebuke.
"So much for the idea that wicca is "just another religion" - I cant recall the last time a Christian or Jew killed someone as part of a ritual!"
0 A.D. The Christian religion began with a human sacrifice, and they symbolically cannibalize their sacrificial victim every chance they get. Also, there have been various Christian psychos over the years who have killed their children believing they were possessed by demons, and Jews have killed entire civilizations of people because "God commanded them to", read the bible. It's quite common for Christians or Jews to commit murder due to religious motivations.
I am not judging your religion or its followers, as every belief system eventually accumulates murders in its name, and I am not trying to excuse the wiccans, as they are a cancer that most serious occult practitioners would love to see wiped off the map.
Their brand of New Age "white light" spiritualism does all of us reputational harm and impugns the character of all practicing pagans,not to mention that they are a nest of feminists.
In short, this woman's actions are not characteristic of all pagans, as most pagans are self-detrimentally peace-loving, nor are the beliefs of wiccans characteristic of all pagans, as many of us wouldn't save a wiccan from a bonfire. If you want to be angry at any sect of Paganism because of this, the Dianic Wiccans are the ones who are responsible, them and their auxillary, the Faery Wiccans.
My personal beliefs are as different as night and day to theirs.
E. Steven Berkimer - "If the initial report was written up to include the rape accusation, then it will be included in the stats."
On the larger point of the initial report of a rape being included in the DOJ totals for reported rapes, yes, you are correct.
Admittedly, I was being a bit snarky in going after the claim often included in those "Break the Alliance" posts - that Police proactively act to create claims with the supposed goal of reaching the "only 2% of rape claims being false" mark.
However, not only was I trying to make light of the absurdity of simply pasting in the same boilerplate, over-and-over, without regard to the actual story at hand; I was also making the point that, in this case, even if it were initialy filed as a rape allegation, the fact that it was then determined to be false would goes diamtericaaly against the claim that police are trying to make the 2% figure look better - because they just included yet another false one into those stats.
Maybe I wasn't too clear on my intention there, and I can see how it might well be seen as my claim that it would not figure into the overall stats. That one's on me, I failed to make the distinction that I was suggesting it as an example of how police are clearly NOT working to create claims and trying to make the non-nonsensical 2% figure appear correct. As many of us are aware, the statistics we do have that actually demonstrate a much higher rate of FRA's mostly come from the police - the same police who are never-the-less the target of those misguided posts.
Anonymous - "the federal government no longer tallies numbers for "false" or "unfounded" reports of rapes. According to the the current green book, whenever a department determines that a complaint of a crime is "unfounded or false", it eliminates that offense from its crime tally. So, slwerner is correct, this datum would be excluded from the stats."
However, I must admit that I'm only accidentally correct. I wasn't really even considering the DOJ numbers, just the real vs. false stats that one poster continually claims the police are manipulating.
But, thanks for sticking up for me anyway.
Dianic Wicca University. Lol
Greek Witchdoctoresses! Oh my.
11:32, thanks for the beautifrul setup. My answer is
ASK HARLAN
It's a bit after the fact, but I was surfing the Web, looking for updates on the Angela Sanford case, and found this discussion.
The reason I'm following this case is that I've been a British Traditional Wiccan for 39 years, and like many of us I keep an eye on media that give a false impression of Wicca. We have enough trouble without that.
Angela Sanford did NOT kill her victim in the context of a Wiccan ritual. The original article says plainly that Ms. Sanford invited a male casual acquaintance to hike up into the hills with her to perform a Spring Ritual, the name of which was mis-reported as Beltain but was actually Ostara, the Celtic precursor to Easter.
Sanford and her companion stopped at the restrooms on the way to the site, where she killed him for whatever reason but probably not rape. It seems he asked to come into the ladies' room and watch her pee, she agreed and that's where things start to get hazy.
There's been a lot of confusion here about the nature of Wicca's seasonal rituals. They're like the liturgical calendar of the various Christian denominations: special occasions to celebrate the changes of the seasons and give thanks for the bounty of Nature. They do not involve 'sacrifices' any scarier than the garden produce on the church's offering table at Harvest Home. No Wiccan ritual involves harming a living being above the sentience of a carrot.
Wiccans do use athames -- ritual daggers -- in our rituals. When transporting them we put them, along with our other ritual tools, in a backpack or such. We don't just stuff it in a back pocket as Sanford had her knife.
These days many people adopt the name and a few of the trappings of Wicca in order to feel 'special' or 'different' despite having no clue what it's actually all about. Angela Sanford was one of those. A traditional Wiccan is a dedicated priest or priestess, serving the gods and minding his-or-her own damn business.
That's right -- Wicca has priests; it's not just led by women. Each coven is led by a male-female partnership who conduct rituals (our word for services,) teach classes, and act as mentors & resources for the members.
I hope this clears up a few issues and sets some minds at ease. I'm posting this as 'Anonymous' for convenience' sake, but I am:
Dana Corby
Wiccan priestess
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