A reader on another thread linked to the following hate screed from Feministing community concerning the case about Biurny Peguero. You remember, she's the New York woman whose lie sent an innocent man to prison, not for a few days or weeks -- for four years -- where, he revealed, he was subjected to those prison atrocities reserved for rapists.
A writer named "Sophia" declares that she doesn't understand all the media attention for this "mundane perjury story."
You read that right. "Mundane perjury story."
Ladies and gentlemen, feminists have applauded convicting a teenage boy of a felony when, after engaging in consensual sex, he delayed withdrawing for five to ten seconds after the older girl with whom he was having sex told him to withdraw. Kindly compare that five to ten second ordeal with one that lasted four years. Ms. Peguero, you see, could have released her victim from his false rape hell at any time, and instead of waiting five to ten seconds, she waited several years until a priest convinced her to do so.
Five to ten seconds warrants a felony conviction. Four years is a "mundane perjury story."
What does Sophia think is left of the innocent man's life right now? Does she even care? If she cared to think about him as a human being for even a nanosecond, would she be sufficiently dishonest with herself to think he will ever be right after that?
Sophia then makes this astounding leap in "logic" that you will need to read several times even to assure yourself you've not missed anything: "The message ingrained in this one headline, . . . is that women will make up being raped or physically assaulted by men. Women are meant to be recipients of a male's sexual appetites and when she rebukes this role, innocent men go to prison."
Come again? From what despicable, disgusting corner of Sophia's ass did that come from? This underscores what we've known all along: women like Sophia would do well to ditch the Womyn's Studies classes and invest in a few logic courses instead. Read her statement again, and try to follow the twisted, misandric rationale: false claims are really nothing more than women rebuking men's sexual desires.
Once more, you see, as is always the case, "men" as a class are the problem, not criminals, not even someone like Biurny Peguero, whose lie destroyed another life. I know nothing about Sophia aside from the post I excerpt below, but based on this it seems clear that Sophia can't concern herself with Ms. Peguero's lie because, hey, it was just a loathsome male she destroyed. There is no other rationale for this bizarre, hateful, girlish diatribe.
Let's cut the shit: if a woman were subjected to four years of the kind of atrocities this innocent man suffered, it would be the biggest story on the planet. A man is subjected to such atrocities and, to this writer, it's just a "mundane perjury story."
Sophia ends, like all self-righteous persons who contort truth, logic, and morality beyond all recognition: "I'm disgusted."
No, Sophia. We're disgusted. You're disgusting.
HERE'S AN EXCERPT:
Why is this front page news? By all accounts, she deserves no more mainstream retribution and criticism than any other person who commits an act of perjury or falsely reports a crime. It is not readily apparent to me why this woman's particular story was featured on the front page of a high-traffic , mainstream, online media outlet. After digging through the related news stories spanning many years, I still can't recognize why her story is national-media attention worthy?
And this is where my mind starts in.
The message ingrained in this one headline, regardless of the content and context of the article, is that women will make up being raped or physically assaulted by men. Women are meant to be recipients of a male's sexual appetites and when she rebukes this role, innocent men go to prison.
Reading the words "fake" , "rape" and "victim" strung together carelessly, in effect sensationalizing an otherwise mundane perjury case, conveys a sense of illegitimacy and unimportance. The title of this story simultaneously portrays the story of this woman as a slight against all innocent men, perpetuates the sociological theme of the wanton Jezebel and contends that rape and its victims are no real problems in our society.
I am disgusted.
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She is indeed disgusting. Wouldn't it be nice if someone were to commit mundane perjury against her, giving her a nice long four years to think about things while the outside world calls her all sorts of horrible names and laughs at the sexual abuse she suffers on the inside.
Because prison rape isn't real rape, you see - it's the kind of rape that even feminists can celebrate and laugh about! Or maybe that's only when it happens to men.
Kind of puts another twist on the term "Bitch."
It is posts such as Sophia's that engender disrepute of the entire feminist movement.
"From what despicable, disgusting corner of Sophia's ass did that come from?"
Hahahaha.
Feminists are so spiteful, even their asses have corners.
When confronting people such as Sophia, one should make good use of Epistemology:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology
How do we know what we know?
True believers on any side can never be reasoned with. Objectivity, fair-mindedness and fair treatment, personal and group accountability, critical thinking, a focus on equal justice, minimizing humiliation and providing dignity to all concerned while countering feelings with facts are our only hope in resolving the false rape issue.
It's easy to call her all sorts of names (which I could do also), but it is far better to hold her up to a standard of reason and accountability. As a falsely accused, still under investigation, with the Sword of Damocles dangling over my head, and situation-induced health conditions that may well end me before I am either cleared or falsely imprisoned: I hope that Sophia becomes educated. Whatever godawful things that happened to her or her loved ones or that she believes happened that cause her to hold the attitudes, opinions and values that she does can never be assuaged by my suffering, death, or imprisonment or that of any other innocent man. Will she and others like her continue until there are no more men, and by consequence, no more feminists? It doesn't matter who started it. It only matters who is suffering.
American beurocracies are dominated by the gender/ Raunch communities. They are extreme liberal, and will spend our tax dollars, and even our childrens tax dollars ..to expand their beurocratic pork offices until they collapse under their own weight.
The extreme liberal gender /Raunch crowd retain complete hegemony of the American political landscape by getting law enforcement to "Manufacture faulty and inflammatory statistics" for them ..which is un-constitutional.
This would be silly if it were not the truth.
Against my better judgment, I decided to take a look at the Feministing piece. Actually, I was somewhat pleasantly surprised to see most of the comments being posted tended to be refutations the position of the author, one Sofiafromoregon.
But, there was one glaring exception, one GREGORYABUTLER10031 (aka mangina* extraordinaire), who made the ridiculous argument that putting Gonzalez in jail did nothing to make things any better for McCaffery, therefore, she should not be imprisoned (otherwise stated, she should receive NO punishment at all).
I guess by his same logic, since putting rapists in prison will not un-rape their victims, there is also absolutely no reason to ever bother punishing rapist either.
* Assuming, by the name, that the poster is male.
"I guess by his same logic, since putting rapists in prison will not un-rape their victims, there is also absolutely no reason to ever bother punishing rapist either."
That occurred to me too. I wonder if the other posters at feministing know that advocates this.
that he advocates this *
That liar deserves a life sentence, and if she were a man who had destroyed the lives of three women you'd better believe that's what she'd get.
As for whats-her-name, no woman in America is required to satisfy the appetites of men. If you want to live as a lesbian and never interact with men at all then you are free to do so, and in her case that might be a good idea. I don't want someone like her making a mess out of a man's life.
I read that post some time back, and most of the replies were fairly supportive of the true victim. I was surprised, to say the least.
I think the readers over there have more sense than the bloggers. Of course, that's probably true here, too.
"Oh, and the biggest problem here? The fact that I'm sure there are women rape survivors who will not press charges out of fear that they'll end up like Peguero."
Thank you GREGORYABUTLER10031 for straightening us all out! It sounds like William McCaffrey owes all 'women rape survivors' an apology for sending Peguero to jail for three years.
I'm giving GREGORYABUTLER10031 the 'Feminist Moron of the Week' award.
Archivist said:
"I think the readers over there have more sense than the bloggers. Of course, that's probably true here, too."
Gee thanks, Archivist!
But...you really should give yourself more credit, too. As a falsely accused, I would be in much worse shape in every aspect were it not for this site. Thanks for having sense to shed light on this issue.
OT:
http://autos.aol.com/article/prius-driver-scam
Here we have the perfect analogy for the prevalence of false claims: The Toyota acceleration issue.
How many Toyota Prius drivers are making false claims on the Prius acceleration issue in the hopes of making a profit?
"I'm giving GREGORYABUTLER10031 the 'Feminist Moron of the Week' award."
Me, too!
I think if Sophia were here she'd tell Archivist to 'get over it' unless he actually enjoys waddling in self pity.
Anonymous said...
I think if Sophia were here she'd tell Archivist to 'get over it' unless he actually enjoys waddling in self pity.
Mar 15, 2010 11:44:00 PM
I personally don't think Mr Archivist wallows in anything, not even self pity. I imagine Sophia would however be like a pice of bacon dropped into a school of piranha, if she were to visit this site.
"I think if Sophia were here she'd tell Archivist to 'get over it' unless he actually enjoys waddling in self pity."
Which is precisely why I said I hope she becomes educated. Ignorance and flip answers will never solve the great injustice of false accusations that we seek to address on this site (which affects men, boys, and women too). Of course, you can't speak for Sophia or anyone else. However, when you can form a rational opinion of your own based on: direct personal experience with false accusations; unbiased research; facts; and empirical data do let us know. One more thing: unless you have a really good reason to remain anonymous (as I do) come out of hiding! Using Sophia as your personal Teflon coat does her no justice either.
"I think if Sophia were here she'd tell Archivist to 'get over it' unless he actually enjoys waddling in self pity."
Get over WHAT? Some foolish and evil woman with a bullhorn who thinks it's no big deal to grind her stiletto heels into a guy's balls? Yeah, I'll get over it -- when people like Sophia, and you, not only are silenced but are shipped to some island without the benefit of anything male-made. In other words, at best you'd both be living in huts. And within two weeks of this double X chromosome bliss, you'd be scratching each other's eyes out. (Except I think the commentator really is Sophia -- taking a break from studying for a Womyn's Studies midterm.)
How's THAT for getting over it?
To the comment above me.
I agree.
On the living in huts comment you made think of this.
Did you ever notice when prostitution is talked about that it is considered "buying a woman's body" and is violence against women?
Well 12,000 men die a year doing construction work and hundreds of thousands more are injured...some very severely. But no one ever calls construction "buying a man's body" or violence against men.
So unless feminists move out of their houses or apartments and boycott shopping at malls and other stores they are supporting violence against men.
Most of the writing at Feministing is reminiscent of some crappy undergraduate newspaper. It is good to read for comic relief only. I do get a good laugh out of the intellectual pretensions, tiresome cliches and strident self-righteousness of these silly girls who think they know it all because they have some useless degree in PC victimhood identity politics or some such.
Normally I wouldn't get too upset over anything written there, because they are just a bunch of dumb bimbos who are frankly not worth my emotional energy.
But I can understand the anger when this sort of tripe has infected public policy and is ruining innocent lives. We can only hope that one day when feminism is discredited and marginalised we can enjoy it for the freak show it really is.
Snark said...
"Because prison rape isn't real rape, you see - it's the kind of rape that even feminists can celebrate and laugh about! Or maybe that's only when it happens to men."
Prison rape is done by other MEN. Choose your target wisely.
Personally I think that 5-10 seconds after she said "stop" would be a lifetime to the victim in that position, and certainly more than enough time to withdraw. Also, I feel that your comparison is flawed: rape is rape, no matter if it's a male or female victim, and the attacker in that position should be sentenced for violating the rights and dignity of the victim. Four years may have been excessive, but this was probably bartered down from life etc, and perhaps the defendant's lawyer was unable to find any way of reducing the sentence further for whatever reason. You could just blame the gender bias in favour of women in this case, rather than the prosecutor. Do something about it, don't just sit on the internet and bitch about people who have been raped.
"Prison rape is done by other MEN."
And celebrated by feminists.
"Personally I think that 5-10 seconds after she said "stop" would be a lifetime to the victim in that position, and certainly more than enough time to withdraw."
Oh no wat a porr porr victim. He didn't withdraw for 5-10 seconds. That's a LIFETIME gone! She must be traumatised forevermore! Waaaaahhh.
Admit it, you just love being victims. You'll bend every rule to attain your cherished victim status.
if you are feeling especially masochistic, you can follow 'sophiabiabia' on twitter. she's a single mom (oh, that poor child).
gregory a. butler has a blog or two and even a book or two, though surely not 'real' books. i dissected his thought process very easily: he lumps women in with victimized minorities, which is sort of his racket. his livelihood is playing the race card, so he's in camp with any other group playing their own victim card. it's probably gotten him a few free hugs too.
for people like him, enlightenment through education is just absolutely not an option, since it would disenfranchise him. yet, in our democracy, his new york vote counts the same as mine.
"she's a single mom"
Bombshell! I didn't see that coming!
Let me guess, she doesn't need a man, but still claims child support from the government, i.e. from men's labour.
Also ... I love it when rabid feminazis use the internet as a shaming tactic.
"Do something about it, don't just sit on the internet and bitch about people who have been raped."
How about you do something about it, don't just sit on the internet and bitch about people who have been falsely accused of rape.
Duhh ... if you're saying this on the internet then it works both ways. You're rather dumb.
"Prison rape is done by other MEN. Choose your target wisely."
Prison rape is done by RAPISTS. On this blog, and in every civilized space, we talk about "innocent people" and "guilty people." Get it? You sound like one of these hateful manshees that wants to lump all "men" together, the innocent with the guilty.
Sheeeesh!
"Personally I think that 5-10 seconds after she said 'stop' would be a lifetime to the victim in that position, and certainly more than enough time to withdraw."
Did I say he was innocent? Hmm? Actually, the conviction was tossed on appeal, but hey . . . .
"Also, I feel that your comparison is flawed: rape is rape, no matter if it's a male or female victim, and the attacker in that position should be sentenced for violating the rights and dignity of the victim."
Your statement is mindless babble. Yes, of course, rape is rape. The sun is the sun and the urine is urine. What the hell does that mean? In terms of the harm to the individual, the attack on the dignity of the person, NOT ALL RAPE IS THE SAME. Get it? THAT'S the point. And four years in prison for a crime you didn't commit is far worse -- in a different universe -- than a five to ten second delay.
Sheeeesh!
"Four years may have been excessive, but this was probably bartered down from life etc, and perhaps the defendant's lawyer was unable to find any way of reducing the sentence further for whatever reason."
Um, I think he was sentenced to 18 years -- but the "whatever reason" was -- SHE LIED. Get it?
SHE. LIED. OK?
Sheeeesh!
"You could just blame the gender bias in favour of women in this case, rather than the prosecutor. Do something about it, don't just sit on the internet and bitch about people who have been raped."
Dear, we ARE doing something about. We are changing the public discourse about rape. We are confusing and maddening people like you. We are going to have the entire Western World know that false rape claims are common. And there's nothing you can do to stop us!
The rest of your comment makes no sense.
Next time, don't come to a gun battle with a plastic sword.
This troll can't even pay attention for five seconds.
She thought that the guy sentenced to eighteen years - NOT FOUR - is the same guy who didn't withdraw for 5-10 seconds.
Snark, I knew something was off, but I didn't even bother to figure it out. Thanks much.
"Personally I think that 5-10 seconds after she said "stop" would be a lifetime to the victim in that position, and certainly more than enough time to withdraw."
She's only victim to her own poor judgement, for a start.
Second, 5-10 seconds is not a lifetime. I've had to ask my husband to withdraw due to a medical condition I have called "vulvar vestibulitis", where the nerves in the vestibule become hypersensitive, and even at its worst, it hasn't felt like a lifetime if he's ever hesitated.
That woman will get no sympathy from me. Ever.
"Personally I think that 5-10 seconds after she said "stop" would be a lifetime to the victim in that position, and certainly more than enough time to withdraw."
These people will do anything for victimhood status, won't they?
Tell you what, you plucky little feminist gargoyle you, how about YOU try it?
When we drown your insane little movement in a sea of logic and reason, we'll just have the laws reversed and see how YOU like going to prison for 10 years because you waited 5-10 seconds to get off a man in the heat of passion. Fair's fair, right ladies?
Oh, that's right, no it isn't. Because it isn't about your "traumatic ordeals" at all, is it?
It's about your in-built bigotry and hatred of men, your jealousy of men, and your neverending need to blame someone-men-for YOUR bad decisions.
FUCK YOU,BITCHES. YOU WILL be subjected to the same human rights abuses we have been when we take over, and your feminist blogs, newspaper articles, and female supremacist books will ALL BE USED AGAINST YOU and read aloud as a list of your crimes before you are beaten to death in the street by a mob of the same innocent men that YOU put behind bars.
Sweet dreams,cupcake.
"True believers on any side can never be reasoned with."
That's a good point, for example this keeps getting posted,
""The extreme liberal gender /Raunch crowd retain complete hegemony of the American political landscape by getting law enforcement to "Manufacture faulty and inflammatory statistics""
but no matter how many times people have asked, no one has ever provided any examples of a faulty statistics manufactured by law enforcement.
"Actually, I was somewhat pleasantly surprised to see most of the comments being posted tended to be refutations the position of the author, one Sofiafromoregon."
I felt the same way.
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