Yesterday's conviction of Biurny Peguero, and the controversy about whether she should have been incarcerated after her recantation, reminded me of the following post, which our newer readers might find extremely interesting: http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2009/05/boy-who-delays-five-seconds-withdrawing.html
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I'd love to hear a feminist answer this.
I can't imagine anybody choosing several years in prison over being raped for five seconds, unless it's an incredibly violent five seconds.
Which is not to downplay the suffering of rape victims, but we need to stop pretending that false rape accusations are a victimless crime.
Yeah, there's no need for any comparison. Rape has always been exalted as the second worst or even the worst crime, and that is just silly. Again, not to minimize the atrocity and indignity of a rape where, in the worst cases, one human being uses another as his personal plaything, but I can think of some pretty brutal assaults that have to rank up there just after murder. (And please, feminists, understand the shame young men feel having to report that they've been beaten by another young man -- it doesn't mesh with the macho image women insist we adopt. That macho crap, by the way, is one of the characteristics women use in selecting mates, so don't go blaming us for it.)
So which crimes are worst? Murder is always first. After that, it depends -- on the facts.
It seems most "rapes" I hear about are some drunk girl whining about a bad date.
To me I would much rather wake up to some girl I did not want to have sex with if sober. Or have her continue for 5 seconds after I say stop than spend one DAY in jail or even be arrested.
My scale of these things goes like this.
Murder
Serious injuries like broken legs
Being shot or stabbed
Being in jail
Being falsely accused
Getting a parking ticket
Getting a hangnail
Getting a paper cut
Having a girl not stop for five seconds while on top of me
Anon, I can't argue with you. I think that much of the acquaintance rape hysteria is a backlash against perceived male selfishness (". . . he knew I didn't want to have sex.").
Ya know, a girl may not want to have sex but might want the relationship so she goes along with the sex. Ain't rape. It's selfish -- maybe. But it ain't rape, by any measure.
The debate today isn't over stranger rape. The debate is acquaintance rape. First time sex. And the anger, the hysteria, the feminist manufactured outrage is over perceived male selfishness -- and how men have been taking advantage of women (supposedly) since pre-history. It's not about a crime, or injuries from a crime, it's about gender power asymmetry. And most of it -- not all, but most -- is bullshit in the extreme. To want to send your date to prison for years because you've decided he was selfish is beyond evil.
Faulty and inflammatory "manufactured statistics" promoted to the public, create a sort of general hysteria that turns an otherwise sane and responsible court into a type of " Klan court".
The gender / Raunch culture who now dominate American politics do not make good leaders.
They rule by mob/Klan hysteria, and piss all over the constitution. Get gender feminist hysterics out of our legal system.
While the other person should stop, it should not be considered rape.
If someone stops paying for a car they rented legally and the renter cancels their agreement or it otherwise expires prior to the vehicle's return, at worse it's conversion of leased property, a misdemeanor. And even that requires intent. In no way is it grand theft, a felony, because the renter initially gained possession and left with car with its owner's consent.
How this even met the statutory requirement for sexual assault, why the state decided to prosecute, or how he was convicted is beyond me. And what woman would voluntarily hug and give her phone number to an actual rapist?
If man is having sex with a woman, and he decides to stop, and she doesn't immediately get off of him, what do you think the chances are that she'll go to prison for rape?
"If man is having sex with a woman, and he decides to stop, and she doesn't immediately get off of him, what do you think the chances are that she'll go to prison for rape?"
Absolutely no chance whatsoever.
Perhaps the best advice we can give men who don't want false rape claims is "woman on top." (But then again, I think I saw a false rape claim for that, too.)
"Perhaps the best advice we can give men who don't want false rape claims is "woman on top." (But then again, I think I saw a false rape claim for that, too.)"
Of course, that wouldn't make any difference if she is willing to lie. There are plenty of cases involving alcohol where the woman was the aggressor (eg. Sara Klein at Brown University), or cases where there wasn't any sex (eg. Crystal Gail Mangum).
"Of course, that wouldn't make any difference if she is willing to lie. There are plenty of cases involving alcohol where the woman was the aggressor (eg. Sara Klein at Brown University), or cases where there wasn't any sex (eg. Crystal Gail Mangum)."
Right. Send her a text message right after: "That was great tonight, but next time, maybe you could let me be on top for a change?"
I know you think that won't be enough -- trust me: there is a 99% likelihood that no D.A. would touch a rape claim with that sort of evidence.
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