FRS comments will be interspersed.
Police don’t know why 14-year-old made up story of being abducted.
A 14-year-old girl lied about being sexually assaulted Jan. 14 near a school bus stop on Steam Mill Road, Columbus Police Chief Ricky Boren said during a news conference Friday.
Glaring inconsistencies in evidence collected by investigators from the scene of the alleged crime as well as a confession from the East Columbus Magnet Academy student led police to charge her with falsely reporting a crime. She has been released to the custody of her mother. The charge is a misdemeanor and will be handled by juvenile court because of the girl’s age, Boren said.
FRS Comment: A misdemeanor and juvenile court. Which means that all proceedings are private, and the public will never know what the outcome is. And, since she is anonymous, she is free to do this again, because no one will ever know what she did.
Boren said the 14-year-old admitted around noon Thursday that she had fabricated her story. The chief said he did not know why the girl lied.
FRS Comment: Did the chief ever think to maybe ask?
“The mother expresses regret that it happened and was very apologetic to the police investigators as well as the city of Columbus and the east Columbus neighborhoods,” Boren said.
The student had told investigators she was walking to a bus stop on Steam Mill Road when a heavyset man with a lazy eye grabbed her near the intersection of R.C. Allen Drive, dragged her west into the woods and assaulted her.
Her report caused additional alarm because it came less than two weeks after a 12-year-old girl was abducted Jan. 6 while walking to East Columbus Magnet Academy and assaulted in a restroom at Belvedere Park.
FRS Comment: Would it have possibly caused less alarm if the police had investigated the claim first, before they decided to publicly announce something that was determined to be false?
Investigators arrested 20-year-old Marcus Louis Wade in that case, and they are following up on other reports they believe involved Wade, Boren said. But since Wade’s arrest, police have received no fresh, credible reports of someone stalking school children, he said. Wade still is being held in the Muscogee County Jail on multiple charges, including child molestation, aggravated child molestation, aggravated sodomy, kidnapping and armed robbery.
During a 3 p.m. news conference Friday at the Columbus Public Safety Center, Boren urged residents to consider some of the “positives” of the situation.
The chief said neighbors in southeast Columbus are working together to protect their children, with residents watching for suspicious people and churches offering to protect students on their way to school. And just the fact that the assault did not happen was a relief to investigators and to parents fearing a predator was prowling that part of town, he said.
FRS Comment: Lets also look at the negatives. Every single person who wasn't from this neighborhood was looked at with suspicion, people were living with a fear that was unecessary, and could have been prevented. People were protecting their children from something that didn't exist. Those are just a few that come to mind.
Still, residents always should be wary of crime, Boren said.
“I think that you always have to take care of your children,” Boren said. “I think that we live in a society today that demands that we take care of our children ... And I do not think that we should drop our guard anytime we’re dealing with a child.”
One reason police did not earlier announce the girl had recanted her story was that they did not want to give a false sense of security to residents attending a meeting Thursday night at St. James Missionary Baptist Church, where ministers asked neighbors to work together to protect children.
FRS Comment: You didn't announce it because you didn't want to give a false sense of security? Seriously? So you supported a lie and kept people in a state of fear, and that is how you give a sense of security?
“We see a neighborhood that’s now closer together,” Boren said.
Julie Rose, a licensed psychologist who has worked with and researched sexual abuse victims and sexual assault, said the very fact that the police poured investigative resources and manpower into what turned out to be a fictional account of a sexual assault could have negative psychological effects on true victims of such crimes.
FRS Comment: Hang on to your hats. Lets see if this makes any sense. The police took a rape accusation serious, put who knows how many resources and manpower into the investigation, and that is going to have a NEGATIVE effect on real victims of rape? After hearing people such as Miss Rose constantly state that victims don't come forward because police don't take their claim seriously, now it is the fact that police do take the claim seriously, that will have a negative affect. Talk about trying to have your cake and eat it too.
Rose said stories like this do discourage rape and sexual assault victims from filing police reports and seeking help, because they doubt authorities will believe them.
FRS Comment: Again, the police believe the story, take immediate action to investigate the claim, and Miss Rose states that people are afraid they won't be believed. Sorry, but the actions taken by the police show that they WILL be believed, and that Miss Rose's statements are pure garbage.
“Any time somebody falsely accuses someone ... victims out there feel betrayed and they get very upset, because they feel that this was a horrific type of trauma that happened to them, and now this other person’s duplicating it out of whatever motivation she has.”
Rose encouraged all victims to get help as quickly as possible after an assault because “time is definitely of the essence.”
“About this particular case, people should keep in mind that this is a 14-year-old, and there are all sorts of reasons people make false accusations, and I’m sure the situation is more complicated than any of us will understand. But the primary thing for most people to know is that it’s not a reason to not go forward, that it only keeps perpetuating the cycle of violence and sexual assault when someone does not go forward.”
FRS Comment: Please note the part in italics. Seems to me, that several studies have come to the same conclusion. Glad to have a bit of confirmation from someone within the "Rape Industry". And no Miss Rose, what keeps the cycle going, is that there is no real concerted effort to get to the root causes of violence and sexual assault, and actually fix the problem. And this is a case of a false allegation, which does a disservice to those falsely accused first, and those who are ACTUAL victims of these types of things, second. Perhaps, if you were to advocate for stricter punishments for false accusers, who do more to damage the credibility of true victims, we wouldn't see so many false accusations. But the focus on a completely different crime than the one this girl committed, does a very large disservice to those who are falsely accused. And it is shameful.
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Keeping people in a heightened sense of mass hysteria..leads to klan type irrational hysteria lynchings.
In the early part of the last century, perhaps.
There haven't been lynchngs since the 1960's....which wasn't that long ago, I suppose----
I think the term is used in the same manner Clarence Thomas used it when he referenced what he deemed to be his own "high tech lynching."
”But the focus on a completely different crime than the one this girl committed, does a very large disservice to those who are falsely accused.”
And, this is exactly the problem with the reporting on this story. As with many other similar stories, the press goes to someone who makes a living in the rape industry, and allow them to effectively “refocus” the report away from the real story.
Rather than a story whose tone is “The claim was false, and caused needless concern and expense, and could have resulted in the arrest of an innocent person”, it basically becomes “Whew, we sure dodged a bullet this time – but rape is still a huge problem that we all need to continue to focus on”.
”After hearing people such as Miss Rose constantly state that victims don't come forward because police don't take their claim seriously, now it is the fact that police do take the claim seriously, that will have a negative affect.”
As you point out, the police DO take rape claims seriously – very seriously.
On the one hand, it’s hard to fault them on this particular one. A report of a child being abducted and assaulted – especially so soon after another incident – is likely to result in a rapid response. We would expect no less of them if their were a report of and armed robbery or shooting with a suspect on the loose, including so-called reverse 9-11 to residents to warn them.
And, it does appear that they did a proper investigation, finding that that she was lying, and charging her (at least as strongly as they are able to, since she’s a juvenile).
But once they had her recantation, hey certainly should have immediately issued an “all clear” to the public.
Now, perhaps it is because they didn’t want to take the “steam out of the sails” of that rape awareness meeting – which wouldn’t necessarily seem all that egregious. But, I happen to think that it’s simply more likely that they were just plain old embarrassed, and were reluctant to have to publicly admit it.
Which segways nicely into the other point I wanted to make. The idea that FRA’s make Police less likely to believe subsequent victims has some legitimacy – it’s just not what the rape-culture whiny-asses portray it as.
Too often, the rape-hype nonsense is that Police will ignore claims – but that it utter BS. What will likely happen is that, while they will continue to handle the claims in accordance with their proper procedures, getting embarrassed by a liar – a 14 year-old one, at that – will give them pause, and they just might investigate before they go off “half-cocked” and do something stupid.
Personally, I think that it would be a damned good outcome if Police would learn from FRA’s to avoid rushing to judgment.
This would apply to DV as well. I’m surprised that some of our friends who are less sympathetic towards the police haven’t yet brought up this serious F’-up, in which over-zealous officers got the wrong man in a DV complaints, and beat him nearly to death.
There will no doubt be a substantial lawsuit, and the end of careers over this. The same should happen whenever similar mistakes lead to harms to FRA victims.
"Police don’t know why 14-year-old made up story of being abducted."
Oh, really!? I think the answer is pretty much staring them in the eyes:
"Her report caused additional alarm because it came less than two weeks after a 12-year-old girl was abducted Jan. 6 while walking to East Columbus Magnet Academy and assaulted in a restroom at Belvedere Park."
How many times have FRA's been "copy-cat", aiming to get some of the attention. Are there bigger attention whores than teen-aged girls?
Which just makes it doubly regrettable that the reporting that it had been an FRA didn't occur before the meeting. Had it been known that it was just an attention-seeking lie, then the meeting could have also focused on the crime of making an FRA, the consequences, the costs, and the potential harms - all for the selfishness of wanting attention.
Another rape-hysteria/rape-hype "show" could have been transformed into a really learning experience.
slwerner,
That link gave a 404 - not found error. I cleaned it up a bit, and it can be accessed HERE.
Excellent points all around. Have you ever thought of blogging? You'd do well.
I sent him an email one time asking if he'd be interested in joining us -- and he blew me off.
Pierce Harlan - "I sent him an email one time asking if he'd be interested in joining us -- and he blew me off."
My apologies if it appeared that I was blowing you off. I can't remember specifically responding to your suggestion, although I had intended to. I may have forgotten to do so.
I had actually talk with my wife about your invitation. She was very hesitant to have me do so out of a fear that if I was known as an author, it might, in some way, come to be used against her as a prosecutor. She has been concerned enough at the detail I've sometimes included regarding cases she's handled. So, in deference to her concerns, I had decided not to take you up on your gracious invitation.
If I neglected to respond and explain, mea culpa. Would you "buy" that I'm getting older and more forgetful?
The police remind me of naive little boys with no real understanding of the world or a female's Nature. Females and children should NEVER be believed because they are natural born liars and fabricators. They lie for many reasons which I won't go into here. Psychologically, females and children have a distorted and skewed sense of reality. I did not say that the police should not investigate these cases but they should take everything with a very large grain of salt and unless they have some real evidence, other than some kid's statement, no arrests should be made. And let's remember that it wasn't some great police work that exposed this hoax but the fact that the girl recanted. Otherwise they'd still be out there on a wild goose chase wasting taxpayer money, harassing innocent men, and frightening the town.
Would you "buy" that I'm getting older and more forgetful?
Aren't we all? I can understand your dilemma. When Pierce first extended the invitation to me, I had to talk over with my wife:
1. Should I do it.
2. Would I put my name out for all to see, or would I use an alias. We decided to use my actual name.
Some may remember a poster here, and at other sites, from over a year ago, wolfboy69 (I am a big supporter of wolf conservation and I was born in 1969. I used boy because I didn't want to step on the toes of the great one, wolfman Jack :) ).
Anonymous - "And let's remember that it wasn't some great police work that exposed this hoax but the fact that the girl recanted."
We aren't told specifically why she recanted, but typically, recantation come about because the police confront the accuser with evidence that points towards the likelihood that she is lying.
I cannot be certain about what we are not informed of, but it seems unlikely that a girl looking for attention would decide to recant unless something else was compelling her to do so.
slwerner, I was only kidding -- and, in fact, I figured that was the reason for your reluctance. If you ever change your mind -- just let us know!
And let's remember that it wasn't some great police work that exposed this hoax but the fact that the girl recanted.
Anon,
From the first paragraph:
Glaring inconsistencies in evidence collected by investigators from the scene of the alleged crime as well as a confession from the East Columbus Magnet Academy student led police to charge her with falsely reporting a crime.
It wasn't just her confession. My guess is, that they found these inconsistencies, and when they confronted her with them, she confessed she made it up. We see this regularly in the stories we post here. Only after something doesn't add up, and the cops bring up those inconsistencies, do the accusers realize they screwed up, and then come clean.
So long as no one has been arrested, or even detained for questioning, then the police are doing exactly what they should do. Investigate the complaint, and determine if the evidence supports that complaint (not tailor the evidence to match the complaint). If it doesn't, it's time to start questioning the complainant on those inconsistencies.
Most people are really bad liars, and when confronted with their mistakes, they come clean (Obviously, there is a difference between being honestly mistaken and outright lying). The outright liars are the ones we see, more often than not, in these stories. By their own admission, in most cases.
Damn slwerner,
You beat me to the punch. :)
"Females and children should NEVER be believed because they are natural born liars and fabricators."
I am cautioning our readers that remarks attributing negative characteristics to birth classes are not tolerated here under any circumstances. I am only leaving your comment up to make a point. Please go elsewhere with these sorts of hate comments because they reflect badly on those of us trying to raise awareness about false rape claim victims.
Females and children should NEVER be believed because they are natural born liars and fabricators.
Anon,
A generalization would be to include the word SOME before all of that. Some men are the same way, btw. Your statement comes across as pure bigotry.
And please stop with the ad hominem attacks and the condescension.
Neither Pierce nor myself will ever see 40 again.
To the individual whose comment I just deleted: I agree that children are more likely to lie. And I don't know whether "a female perceives reality the same as a man." But that's not what was so offensive. You called women, in general, "natural born liars" who are "never to be believed."
Aside from being offensive to every fair-minded person, you are really hurting us here. Do not post any more comments, please.
Anonymous flamer - ”It's apparent to me that what I believed was a good website just turns out to be a handful of people who will never really get anything done. You simply do not have the will, the right motivation or the tactics to achieve your purpose. “
One has to wonder what tactics you would suggest? Alienate all but some limited hard-core who are itching to take up arms or blow up a court house to protest the trying of rapes as crimes?
What was that organization Timothy McVeigh associated with? Nobody, save a handful of extremists, remembers them, nor gives their movement any credibility. And, did their acts ever bring about the sort of change they sought?
I think Pierce and Steven would prefer wide-spread credibility as opposed to a devout hard-core faithful. Their goal is to help and educate, not single-handedly bring down the system. Is there another side that is disseminating so much to such a wide audience? It took years to get into the mess, it’s unreasonable to expect to reverse everything over-night. As it stands, there is a growing readership, even if only causal readers and those passing by. The “message” has a much better chance of sticking with them if they aren’t offended by extreme positions, and the impression that this is a site catering to misogynists and rape-apologists.
Anonymous flamer - ”You'd rather attack one person who questions the cops right to make an arrest without any evidence and/or witnesses but worry more about some little feminazi who may read my comments on thsi site and then paint you all with the same brush.”
The question of how arrests should be made is a very valid point to raise. Likewise the need for cohobating evidence, especially in he-said/she-said cases.
However, urging proper cautions has a better chance of serious consideration than does never arresting/never prosecuting.
There are some very valid arguments for allowing officers a wide latitude WRT probable cause. There is also a valid case to made for assessing whether an immediate arrest is warranted.
And, as for prosecuting he-said/she-said’s, many wise prosecutor already decline to pursue such cases unless they have some solid evidence. This is hardly universal, of course, but is frequently the case. Those who haven’t yet learned to avoid taking them on are likely those who continue to realize a rather low conviction rate for such cases.
It is widely believed that a minimum IQ of 120 is required to be able to pass the least demanding of Bar examinations. One would have to suspect that barring extreme arrogance (yes, a problem for some attorneys), most, if not all, would be able to learn that it takes really good, solid evidence to get a conviction in he-said/she-said cases.
The issues are worth debate, but it would be better that the core message regarding the pervasive problems of FRA’s and the harm to those who are victims of them, come to be received and embraced by the wisest possible audience first.
That’s not going to happen if posts here are calling for no arrests and no prosecution, and demonstrating deeply misogynistic attitudes. Even though rapes are not as frequent as some hysterics make them out to be, they do happen. Yet, not all men are guilty simply by the association of gender. Only those who commit or enable the crime are guilty. Likewise, only the women who make or enable FRA’s bear any guilt for them. Both of these messages need to come through to readers of this site as well.
I guess that you are not really too intelligent or sophisticated. If I were to make a statement "all dogs bark" that would be generally true. Now of course you can find that one (or 10) dogs out of a 100 who have never barked but in general that statement is true. Morality, civilisation and laws were created by men and didn't exist throughout 99% of human history. Just because some new rule is codified into a written law does not change a person's basic thinking, behaviour or instinct and it takes a great deal of moulding from childhood to fit them into civilised society. Both men and woman must learn to suppress their natural primitive instincts. Lying and fabricating are natural survival instincts in the female but females are rarely held to account when their lying damages a man. And I have no "issues" with females but merely understand their natures and how they should be dealt with.
Please read theis article in whole.
Prosecution of Innocent Man Seals Martha Coakley’s Defeat
Wednesday, January 20, 2010
By Carey Roberts
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2010/01/20/prosecution-of-innocent-man-seals-martha-coakleys-defeat/
Feminazi land;land of prisons
Feminist Gulag: No Prosecution Necessary
Written by Stephen Baskerville
Thursday, 07 January 2010 00:00
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/family/2705-feminist-gulag-no-prosecution-necessary
The source of both of these articles;
http://mensrightsboard.blogspot.com/
If you read the comments, you will discover SgtMom has posted some incireful comments regarding the erosion of men's rights. She appears to be a champion of men's rights. IMHO, she appears to be antifeminist.
Boren said the 14-year-old admitted around noon Thursday that she had fabricated her story. The chief said he did not know why the girl lied.
FRS Comment: Did the chief ever think to maybe ask?
Of course not, that would be "revictimizing her" (sarcasm)
Pierce Harlan said...
I think the term is used in the same manner Clarence Thomas used it when he referenced what he deemed to be his own "high tech lynching."
Instead of physically destroying our targets these days we destroy them socially, professionally, financially and above all completely assassinate their character.
The tools may be more subtle but the inquisitions, witch hunts and lynchings have always been with us.
It's a cultural thing really, and men are as guilty as women of creating it.
Back in the day your word was your bond, speaking personally I still adhere to this, and while I am not prepared to give examples here to be googled for all posterity, I could give many examples in private.
Off the top of my head, all of these examples are examples that have a cost to me, financial or otherwise, e.g. the job you quoted a thousand bucks for the cost two thousand to do right, you did it right, eat the thousand bucks lost, and hopefully learned to quote better in future.
I have also made many personal promises to people that came back and bit me in the ass, badly.
I can also argue quite persuasively that if I had not stood by my word with certain people I would not now be involved with them some years later, and not have been around to be falsely accused of rape.
But the fact is these are all "my (spoken) word is my bond" examples, I could break them and it becomes school playground he said / she said stuff, and of course it is easy enough to see why people lie for personal advantage.
"My (written) word is my bond" is a different thing ENTIRELY to my mind.
You simply can't claim afterwards that you did not give that bondage of yourself.
My vehicle insurance contract is an example of this, and the quote for work done I talked about above, if given as a written quote, is an example of this, and the "I promise to pay the bearer, on demand" written on silly worthless little pieces of linen / paper that forms our currency is an excellent example of this.
The problem we face as a society is that we allowed ever increasing levels of deception over written bonds, and simply did nothing about it.
Perhaps it started out with the politicians "I did not have sex with Miss Lewinsky"
But when it gets the the point that people ROUTINELY bear false witness on oath in writing, and we still do nothing about it, we have a very, very, very serious problem indeed.
What happens then is that in the absence of penalties to moderate behaviour, people inevitably start to game the system (wiki "game theory") to their own advantage.
And as we have all seen from our police and court systems (and I am not limiting myself to false rape accusations here, they are the tip of the iceberg compared to family law cases) the system itself gets deluged and effectively ceases to function as intended.
Note well, you have the same numbers of staff and judges and lawyers, and the same quality and professionalism and expertise, it is exactly equivalent to forcing a hospital with 3 operating theaters that normally does 15 operations a day that now they must to 40 operations a day. You simply will not be able to avoid the chaos and botched operations.
cont...
Nor will "triage" be any use in screening these potential patients, because the very first time the triage nurse gets it wrong and excluded a genuinely ill patient the roof will fall in and she will no longer be allowed to screen anyone, just prioritise...
which leads to more gaming still...
It is not until those who deliberately lie on oath get punished for deliberately lying on oath, as a matter of routine, that we will see any improvement.
Things in the UK are now starting to move in that direction, the supertanker juggernaut has had the helm over for some time, and keen observers are starting to see some deflection of the course, but it has further to go, which brings us to the last time this happened.
In the UK there is the Perjury Act of 1911, and to be convicted there must be "mens rea" (intention) and "actus reus" (to have committed the act) so that you don't get punished for simply holding a belief that turned out to be false.
In the US and in the UK in practice you were better off lying in Court than lying to the Tax man, the Tax man will bury you face down and fuck you in the ass, because of the cost to the state of everyone lying about tax, the judge will probably do nothing, because of the (historically) minimal cost of lying in court, and the perception that everyone lies in court, especially the accused.
But now the court and legal systems are literally collapsing under the strain, at the present time in the UK in the family courts division your child custody case simply is not going to be heard for at least a year, nothing at all will happen for at least a year, unless you can come up with something "nasty" and urgent.
SO everyone starts doing nasty and urgent...
The VLCC that is the UK legal system is tackling this (watch the bows closely) in two ways...
1/ The worst cases of forswearing are being dealt with, for example false accusations of rape are prosecuted as perverting the course of justice, and since October 2009 now carry a mandatory prison sentence, usually about 2 years.
2/ In all family law cases the judges are declining to hear arguments on issues that they cannot reasonably be expected to make a finding on, e.g. all the he said / she said stuff.
These measures that are being taken now aren't going to do anything except stave off the literal collapse of the system.
What they do is buy some time for the bows to swing around and for other course changes to be made.
It is worth noting that "at the coalface" of police work in the UK there is the blandly stated fact that we are in this state due to the constant meddling by the politicians, constantly rearranging the goalposts as to what police work is, entails, and aims to do.
As the Chinese say, we live in interesting times.
Off-topic, but related...
What is NOT a crime one year, becomes a felony the next:
http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2009/12/parole-board-texas-created-59-new.html
"Parole Board: Texas created 59 new felonies this year (2009)
According to the "Offense Severity List" from the Board of Pardons and Parole, as a result of new laws passed by the 81st legislature, Texas now has 2,383 separate felonies on the books - an increase of 59 compared to the 2,324 they counted in 2007. (See the full list -pdf.)
Shannon Edmonds at the Texas District and County Attorneys Association previously had said they'd counted 40 new felonies crimes among all the bills that passed this year. Apparently they missed another 19. (N.b.: See comments for correction/clarification.) Shannon says prosecutors hate new crimes, and certainly one wonders how anyone is supposed to prosecute them if the DAs don't know they exist?
For the record, there are still only eleven felonies in Texas involving oysters. I counted. We did have another oyster related enhancement bill pass this year, but it only increased a penalty from a Class B to Class A misdemeanor. Going forward, if the Texas oyster industry goes belly up (do oysters have bellies?), perhaps we'll no longer need those. But it's clear the Texas Legislature will inevitably find more things to criminalize.
Fifty-nine new felonies, and even the prosecutors don't know what they all are! "
My point posting here is this: someone may say that "such and such" is the law, and it may be so. Prohibition was the law in the US until it was repealed. The parallels between Prohibition law of early part of last century and the current changes in federal and state law regarding the protection of women and children are intriguing. Will the new laws suffer the same fate as Prohibition? One can only hope that the rule of reason, accountability, and right authority prevail just as it did with the repeal of Prohibition. The cure of new laws are in some cases worse than the disease.
P.S. -- As gritsforbreakfast commented in a reply to his own post: "For the record.... none of the eleven felonies you can commit with an oyster in Texas require sex offender registration. Yet. ;)"
While I completely agree that much more emphasis should be put on how false rape accusations hurt the accused, I think some of Julie Rose's comments might have been taken out of context. False rape accusations do have negative psychological effects on true victims of such crimes, and might discourage actual rape victims from filing police reports and seeking help.
I also agree that the police do take rape claims very seriously. And they should. However, feminists will insist that rape victims are not believed and supported, even though they have little evidence to support that claim. One reason for this is that another one of their claims, that also has little evidence to support it, is that the vast majority of rapes are not reported. If rape victims were believed and supported then it would be their fault -- the fault of women -- for not reporting rape. So rather than "blame the victim", by telling women that the police will not listen to them, feminists can put the blame on men.
Anonymous - "...telling women that the police will not listen to them, feminists can put the blame on men."
Absolutely! Because many gender-feminsts are less interested in actually helping women than they are in preaching that men (and the imaginary "boogeyman", the Patriarchy) are to blame for all the ills of the world.
Pierce has mentioned (repeatedly) of his desire to "team-up" with those who are advocates for rape victims & anti-rape activists. Marcella Chester of abyys2hope is one recent example. One would have thought that she would have been welcoming to this proposition.
But, instead, she sought to smear this site, and all that it stands for via by disingenuously focusing on one single story discussed here, and claiming it was both representative of the entire site, and that to demonstrated a penchant for rape-apology.
Others, myself included, have tried to open a dialogue with Denise Romano, yet, in the end, she is simply dismissive of the male POV as nothing more than abject hatred towards women (suggest that women are anything less than perfect, and your an evil misogynist).
Extend a hand, and they just bite it. To them, men are ultimately "the enemy", so they have no use (nor patience) for those who seek to help men.
BTW, there have been numerous high-quality anonymous post of late, which seem to be of similar style. I suspect that you (the author I quoted) have posted most, if not all of these.
I's like to be able to give proper attribution in responding, so perhaps you might consider adopting a "handle" to post under.
"False rape accusations do have negative psychological effects on true victims of such crimes, and might discourage actual rape victims from filing police reports and seeking help."
Absolutely. Rape victims I hear from are also very clear in their opposition to false rape claims.
Archivist said...
To the individual whose comment I just deleted: I agree that children are more likely to lie. And I don't know whether "a female perceives reality the same as a man." But that's not what was so offensive. You called women, in general, "natural born liars" who are "never to be believed."
Aside from being offensive to every fair-minded person, you are really hurting us here. Do not post any more comments, please.
Jan 23, 2010 9:14:00 PM
I would bet that was a feminist troll trying to "make her mark" and damage the credibility of this fine and outstanding site.
"I's like to be able to give proper attribution in responding, so perhaps you might consider adopting a "handle" to post under."
Thanks, I'll consider it, but I'm not sure of the risks and benefits of doing so.
I've also thought of volunteering to write entries, but there seems to be quite a bit of mindshare in that soon after I think of a specific topic, there is often a post addressing the same issue.
Anonymous said...
"I's like to be able to give proper attribution in responding, so perhaps you might consider adopting a "handle" to post under."
Thanks, I'll consider it, but I'm not sure of the risks and benefits of doing so.
I've also thought of volunteering to write entries, but there seems to be quite a bit of mindshare in that soon after I think of a specific topic, there is often a post addressing the same issue.
Jan 25, 2010 11:06:00 AM
Brilliant minds often think alike.
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