A woman has been accused of making sexual advances to teenage boys in a lurid news story that is sure to attract a lot of attention because of its provocative nature.
But her attorney says the allegations are false, the nasty result of a nasty custody battle.
We don't know what the truth is, but we know that just as a presumed innocent man should be afforded anonymity for alleged crimes of a sexual nature, so, too, should this woman. Why? Because she might be factually innocent, but now her good name has been destroyed, possibly forever. Even if the charges are dropped and even if the claims are found to be false, she likely will never again get a decent job. Her social relationships likely are destroyed beyond repair, too.
Yes, I know: false allegations happen to men far more than women. But that little fact doesn't really help a specific woman who happens to be on the receiving end of it, does it? If she was falsely accused, the two advantages that she'll have over a falsely accused man are: (1) if she is convicted, she'll serve far less prison time -- if any -- in all likelihood; and (2) the stigma won't be as severe -- but it'll be severe enough.
You see, this site is about victims of a certain kind of crime, not whether those victims have a Y-chromosome.
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I think this is a good post. If we're going to insist that men have rights, we need to be consistent. We don't want to be like the feminists.
Anon at 3:31: I feel as badly for this woman as I do for men in similar situations. Her ultimate fate isn't nearly as scary as it would be if she were a man -- I can only imagine the possible sentence here if she were male -- but I just hate how the news media destroys people with sex allegations.
P.S. To the extent that there is a lack of concern for this woman's good name (just as there is a lack of concern for the good name of similarly accused men), we can blame it on the folks who control the public discourse about rape -- rape feminists and the sexual assault counselors. They refuse to entertain notions of anonymity. In adopting this position, they have zero regard for the harm they cause to either men or women. As for the latter, first there are the women who are falsely accused, rare though they are; second, there are the women who are affected when a man is falsely accused, and there are countless such women. You see, false accusations are a woman's issue, too.
Very fair of you. How often do feminist sites dealing with rape highlight prison rape of males? I'd bet hardly ever.
This woman is in deep shit more generally. Her "good name" is well past it's use by date.
Suggest reading this as well for the little bit of extra background...
Teacher accused of offering teens wine, sex
Guarantee that when this gets to a proper courtroom she will claim the teenagers tried to rape her.
1/ As a falsely accused man, it is nice to see you dealing with "false accusations" and not just "false accusations against men"
2/ It was only a matter of time, before men in custody battles learned the lessons taught to them by women in custody battles over the pas decade.
3/ Expect this sort of thing to ramp up a hell of a lot.
4/ Expect to see the MRA sites talking about biters being bitten.
5/ Sad to say, but this may actually be what makes things change, see my earlier comments about change always coming from lone individuals pursuing their own ends...
AfOR
I agree, it was good to post this story. Whereas certain other (big-name) MR/FRA board(s) border on chivalry, giving a distorted view of the picture (i.e. that women are almost as often affected by certain problem as mens), and also playing into the hands of 'women as victim' to appeal to the masses. That's what feminists do, and we need to stay away from doing that if only for that reason.
I prefer addressing and confronting feminists on their mantras, metanarratives, theories, etc. I doubt the gender feminists would allow this woman's plight to persuade them from considering the damages they have to men and women with all of their sex crimes/violence against women crap. I can imagine how they pass the blame for what they caused to happen to this woman on a man or all men.
"they have to men and women"
should be "they have caused to men and women"
A false accusation is a false accusation no matter what gender the accused may be.
Exactly. All false accusations should be considered for what they are; crimes against innocent people and crimes against the people whos tax dollars are wasted on them.
As others have stated, I will echo as well.
It is a show of professionalism here when a female is accused falsely (rare as it may be) and still gets press...
Deservedly I might add. For it's the FRA that is the issue, not the gender.
Kudos folks!
TMOTS
Excuse me, but being accused of a sex crime does not harm a woman's good name. On the contrary, women with the sexual vitality to break the law are refreshing and never fail to impress me. Only feminists and morons take the concept of a female sex offender seriously anyway.
In any case, I am against anonymity for the sex-accused as well as accusers, and even if accusers must stay anonymous then I don't want it for accused men. Anonymity will hurt men and benefit women in the long run. Sure, it can be uncomfortable for individual men when rape allegations are made public, but it is far worse if prosecutors can work in silence and never be exposed where they end up dropping the charges or losing the case. Then only successful rape prosecutions will get much publicity and false accusations will be even more glossed over. Corruption will be much less likely to be discovered -- temporary damage to a man's reputation is worth it to bring down corrupt prosecutors. Just imagine if the Duke hoax had been shrouded in anonymity; then the backlash would have been much milder.
We have some of the most odious and successful feminists in the world here in Norway, and they are happy to conspire to maintain anonymity up to trial and usually even after the man is convicted -- because they know that anonymity will serve women and hurt men the most in the long run.
Most importantly, we need complete openness in order to expose feminist rape law reform. The stigma associated with being a "rapist" will vanish when men wake up to the fact "rape" usually just means a woman regrets sex and the law is on her side even if it was consensual. I for one would only be proud to be accused of rape and would want the whole world to know.
We need poster boys for the details of what "rape" actually means nowadays, and anonymity will take most of those away.
It doesn't work like that here in the U.S. or the UK. Even though the Duke lacrosse players were vindicated, there is still the dark cloud of suspicion that hangs over their heads (" they must have done something"). They do not have the words innocent, falsely accused or, victims carved into their foreheads. Society in the U.S. and the UK are far too influenced by feminist mantras, dogmas, theories and, feminist "logic" to care about the falsely accused.
Would you rather have Nifong still on the job? However bad it is to have a cloud of suspicion hanging over one's head, it is much worse to be convicted, and anonymity would help prosecutors stay focused on that no matter how corrupt they are. Someone anonymously accused will usually just want the matter to go away as soon as they can. The publicly accused will be much more likely to speak up against false accusations and corruption of justice until they are publicly vindicated, and we need that.
I think anonymity is a terrible, Kafkaesque idea. Scandinavian society is even more influenced by feminist mantras, dogmas, theories and logic, and that is precisely why the police and media conspire to keep the names secret of nearly everyone accused and even convicted. It is much worse here in every way except the prison terms are shorter. In the US you have certain rights they don't dare take away, like to face your accuser and a jury trial. Here they just play a recording if the accuser is a child and they are seriously working on abolishing the jury in rape cases and replacing it with professional feminists. There is nothing to stop them and this is the final hurdle before the entire system is 100% feminist controlled -- rape law is already reformed exactly as the feminists wanted, but it turns out juries are reluctant to convict based on the feminist definition of rape). We also have at least triple jeopardy. Even human rights are set aside in sex cases, and the police routinely use long periods of solitary confinement in order to extract confessions, a practice Amnesty has criticized as torture.
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