For your amusement, here's part of a comment left by an insane, extreme feminist named "Elaina" under an incomprehensibl blogpost that was made after the alleged rape at Duke. It is well for all of us to know that insanity like this exists. I am trying to find this woman's retraction and apology after it turned out the only victims at Duke were the young men:
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I used to do work with a group in TN that opposes the death penalty, because I’m against the death penalty in a capitalist system. I’ve written papers on it. It’s situations like the one at Duke that have forced me, many times, to reevaluate my position, though I still stand firm that under capitalism the legal system won’t deliver justice to those sorely in need of it.
Right now I’m thinking that these men, even the ones who stood by and didn’t stop what was happening, even the ones who maybe only watched, they’re ALL guilty of rape, and right now my gut and my heart tell me that they’re wasting precious oxygen and resources by being allowed to live.
After looking at my local “sex offender” registry, it seems that in TN law enforcement does a better job of castigating small-time drug dealers and meth addicts. You’re more likely to stay in jail longer for these kinds of offenses than if you commit a sex crime- sexual assault or statutory rape, say.
The law isn’t the place to look for guidance or comfort. It never has been.
I wish that we’d evolved to a point where “paranoia” over social upsurge as a reaction to rape wasn’t just a “white paranoia.” I wish you could call it “male paranoia,” if that makes sense. But we aren’t, because we don’t have the same kind of social upheaval around the issue of rape here, for some wacky reason. Men are very comfortable in that they don’t have to worry about riots and fires and losing their own personal property when a woman is raped and her attackers are set free. And I’m not saying that in any sort of attempt to negate the “blackness” of the woman who was brutally attacked at Duke. This “black-woman”-ness will be key in the white-male defense strategy, because defense attourneys can play on all the preconcieved notions that the white-male-centric legal system holds when it comes to people that aren’t white and aren’t men.
That said, my hope is that these fuckwads get the steepest sentence imaginable that’s available for what they’ve done. I don’t think what’s available is enough, but that’s my humble opinion, I guess.
I hope that my sister in NC comes out of this whole thing as close to “OK” as she can. Her life’s been permanently changed at the whim of privileged white debauchery. I fucking hate that. Hate it like crazy, and I hate it more and more every second of the day; as a result I turn the mirror to myself to see what it is I can do, on a day-to-day level, with my life and myself to stop this system that just acts as fucking anal-ease for men who feel like doing this sort of thing. I think that if I’m doing that, then all the men, radical or not, leftist or not, all the men reading this blog need to be doing the same thing. I hope that’s happening. It seems like it, from the commentary here.
I might comment more later. Right now I gotta go and fight the man.
Link: http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2006/04/03/duke-rape-from-biting-beaver/
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The law enforcement community has stepped over some very real constitutional boundaries.
It is now a reality that law enforcement communities are "cashing in"..their manufactured statistics for federal VAWA dollars. Using state and federal dollars to manufacture faulty and inflammatory misinformation is un-constitutional. It does not matter how many are doing it..this perversion will not stand the test of time.
Until the time that the gender feminist / law enforcement misinformation Alliance gets challenged in court..it will continue to spread and inflame the anti-male perversion into society.
lol it's Biting Beaver ...
In a rare moment of charity, I will say that she is a particularly rabid form of feminist.
On the other hand, I wouldn't have identified it as Biting Beaver's writing without the link at the bottom.
Because this particular piece could conceivably have been written by any of the more 'progressive' feminists who insist they are all about 'equality'. In fact, I assumed it was, until the end.
It only underscores their stupidity. This is one stupid comment, and its author has severe mental problems. I promise you she does not have a decent job -- she sounds too messed up. There is no way she can interact with men, which means she can't do anything worthwhile.
in a way, the author of this pile of garbage is a victim of feminism too.
why?
because old -school feminists get wet panties from the thought that their ideologies could harm a young, fragile woman's mind so much, that she can no longer have a healthy relationship with a man.
thx simone beauviour. you messed up her soul. good job.
in a way, the author of this pile of garbage is a victim of feminism too.
why?
because old -school feminists get wet panties from the thought that their ideologies could harm a young, fragile woman's mind so much, that she can no longer have a healthy relationship with a man.
thx simone beauviour. you messed up her soul. good job.
Unfortunately, for every Duke non-case, there are hundreds of cases that are all too familiar. When will it stop, and is this how you complile your statistics:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/31/sports/sports-of-the-times-a-woman-takes-on-the-system.html
Dawn, I am Pierce Harlan, founder of this site. You are wrong, Dawn, for reasons we've demonstrated here countless times. In fact, you are not just "wrong," you are woefully uninformed on the subject, Dawn. Terribly, awfully uninformed
First, do you know the first thing about this website, Dawn? The question scarcely survives its statement. You don't.
For your information, Dawn, this is the world's leading site that gives voice to persons falsely accused of rape. We have innumerable victims of FRA who read our site, and your hit-and-run trolling is as unappreciated here as a rape apologist's comments would be on a feminist site. But kindly note, my dear Dawn, that this site allows hateful and uninformed comments from people like you. Unlike feminist sites, we rarely ban people, Dawn. So welcome to False Rape Society.
You would do well to spend several weeks reviewing the objectively verifiable information on this site about FRA. That's how long it would take you. Perhaps then, Dawn, you would understand that FRAs are likely more prevalent than actual rape, and that pretending that FRA is not a significant problem is, by any measure, morally grotesque.
By the way, Dawn, I don't have "my" statistics on rape and FRA, I refer to objectively verifiable, unbiased statistics that were not compiled by the sexual grievance industry or by Womyn's Studies professors. How about you, Dawn? My guess is you get your stats from your campus' rape center, one of those places Heather MacDonald called the loneliest place on earth.
Oh, by the way, Dawn: one can oppose RAPE and FRA at the same time. It's possible, you know. The owners of this website prove it can be done.
Now go away, Dawn. We have countless readers who have been victimized by false rape accusers and your very presence dishonors their victimization.
You tell 'em Pierce.
Pierce, you did a piece a few months ago about a boy that was beat to death with a baseball bat in his sleep over a false rape accusation. Another boy, and the girl that made the false rape accusation snuck into the sleeping boys house and beat him to death with a bat.
Maybe you could dedicate a corner of this site to that boy, as a constant reminder of what a false rape accusation does.
Will do, Scott. Great suggestion.
The tragic price of a false rape claim
"Unfortunately, for every Duke non-case, there are hundreds of cases that are all too familiar."
Hundreds!?!? Really? Can you document that - because all I'm seeing is one ten-year old case that you've linked.
One would think that if there were, in fact, hundreds, you'd be able to link one or more recent examples.
The one case you did link suggests to me that you had to dig pretty deep into the archives to find even that one.
"I wish you could call it “male paranoia,” if that makes sense."
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense because it was real - black male paranoia. This digusting white sewer should be flogged and then hanged and left to die just like all the black men white lying white "ladies" murdered by proxy.
And white feminists wonder what they can do to improve dialog with "WOC" and get past their reputation for racism. Somehow they never think of the obvious answers.
Dawn - a typical white girl name for a white feminist - totally clueless in her female priviege, and dishonest about her ignorance.
Slewner the reason I used an old case was to parallel your old Duke case. I can give you plenty of current examples of rape and the rapists who get away. It's common knowledge that we are told not to talk about our situations. They threaten us with disciplinary action if we tell anyone. I can't believe you people are not aware of what really goes on.
I can't believe you people are not aware of what really goes on.
Do you have a clue Dawn? Do you really have an f***ing clue?
I doubt you do. You are wearing rose colored glasses thinking the justice system is fair to all, it isn't lady.
FRA ruin families, families lose everything, real rape victims are being negatively affected by FRA.
My life is ruined, my husband's life is ruined but the false accuser? Her life is so much better because she gets PAID for lying!!!!
Go F yourself!!!
CBGirl
Sorry for the language... my religion is not holding up too well through all this.
Dawn has deigned to come on a site that is, among other things, a support group for people falsely accused of rape, in order to talk about an entirely different crime -- rape. I suggest that Dawn go to one of the multitude of rape sites. We have virtually no false rape sites, and this is pretty much it. The disdainful tone she has adopted suggests that she minimizes the false rape epidemic, which, of course, is insulting to the countless victims of this crime. I will be deleting any further hate comments from Dawn.
Thankyou for taking a stand against this kind of bigotry, Pierce.
Pierce,
I have to express my anger someway. May as well be towards 'one of those' (feminists) LOL But thanks
(((hugs))))
CBGirl
To CBGirl, yes I know what goes on because I live in that environment. The administration puts gag orders on girls who make a complaint. That's not what they call it, but that's what it is. The truth is I don't know a single girl here who has made a false accusation. Why do you hate me?
WOW, you know of no one? I know of 3, 4 if you count my husband's accuser since he is her 2nd victim, possibly third. In the tiny community I live in there are 3 rape cases going on right now. This area has less than 10k people.
One is my husband's accuser who didn't get what she wanted from him even by blackmailing him so 'she showed him'.
The other 'high profile' case is a man whose x-wife doesn't want him to have visitation or rights to their child.
The other one was mad because her boyfriend lied about how much money he had.
It's funny that little ole me, who lives in the middle of no where, knows of 3 false rape claims and YOU who work in it know none.
Maybe you really are an idiot!!!!
CBGirl
Oh I don't hate you, that would mean I cared.
What are you talking about? I don't work here, I go to school. You are targeting the wrong person. I did nothing to your husband.
You said "yes I know what goes on because I live in that environment"
Then you said "The truth is I don't know a single girl here who has made made a false accusation"
I understood these comments that you live/work in an environment that works with rape cases and that you don't know of a single girl who has lied about it. That all who are accused are guilty.
I know you didn't do anything to my husband. I am not a student, I am a 50 year old woman who has never been arrested, never in trouble at all and living through hell because of these FRA!!
CBGirl
Just for curiosity's sake:
Dawn, do you acknowledge that false rape accusations do great damage to the accused, financially, emotionally, and otherwise?
If so, do you think that it is an acceptable casualty, and not worth addressing by making reforms to the current laws pertaining to how rape cases are handled?
If not, why not?
As for everyone attacking you, its rather obvious: the reason for this site is advocacy and exploration of the issue of false rape accusations.
Rape obviously occurs, nobody here is an idiot. There are plenty of sites dealing with that. But very little for false rape accusations.
Why come here to talk about something other than the blog's subject matter?
Dawn - "The administration puts gag orders on girls who make a complaint."
Sorry, but I'm going to have to cal BS on this one.
If what you are claiming was true, you and the other women affected are but one audio recording away from a multi-million dollar law suit settlement - and the administrators careers are over (there social lives as well).
In the current PC climate, what you are claiming seems absolutely preposterous.
Hell, why don't you just tell me where you go to school so that I can hire a woman to enroll and pretend she's been raped so that she can record the administration warning her to shut-up about it. We'll split the money, and we both can retire.
Me, too, slwerner. I have experience with the collegiate rape kangaroo court, which is anti-male.
I can hire a woman to enroll and pretend she's been raped so that she can record the administration warning her to shut-up about it. We'll split the money, and we both can retire.
I'll do it. I want to go back to college anyway and I need to make some cash to buy a real attorney ;)
CBGirl
Just because this lady's crazy doesn't mean she can't use teleportation or remote viewing to know that a rape occurred. In fact, most people with paranormal abilities do appear crazy to us run-of-the-mill people, we who just can't see things the way they really are, and so operate on out-moded concepts like justice.
Dawn is now being enabled to lie. You can't be angry at her, for she just regurgitates the puke that the university gender feminists tell her too.
You can be angry at the root of the perversion, which is now the gender feminist / law enforcement misinformation Alliance. Law enforcement can now "cash in" on women as victim hysteria from the VAWA act..they can, will, and do "manufacture statistics" to do just that.
This gender feminist / law enforcement "misinformation Alliance" is a perversion of our legal system..and it is Un-constitutional.
She can dish it out but can't take it. If this continues, all men will be on the Sex Offender list, just like 'they' want it and all lives will be affected or destroyed because of this travesty.
Unfortunately, this is the beginning.
Why don't the men in law enforcement see what is really going on. They can change it.
CBGirl
"Why don't the men in law enforcement see what is really going on. They can change it."
Most do, and most don't rush to judgment. Based on everything I've seen, most law enforcement weed through the false claims very carefully before destroying a young man. The problem is that there are so many false claims, and law enforcement policies/skills/agendas vary from one jurisdiction to the next, and that's why we see so many false rape claims in the news.
Dawn says she doesn't know any woman who has lied about rape. If that's true, Dawn knows very few women. If she shows five who claim they were raped, chances are two or three at least were liars.
Dawn - "The administration puts gag orders on girls who make a complaint."
Do you have any evidence of this? What is keeping them from going to the police? Actually, we've seen the opposite with administrations stacking things in favor of accusers, vilifying behaviors way beyond the law, and inflating the numbers to get more money (eg. http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/10/02/davis#Comments)
Also, Scott, what you are saying is factually true, so there is no need for exaggerated language. Writing about an "Alliance" reads like conspiracy theory.
CB Girl
I just wanted to say I have read a lot of your comments and I like you.
I wish all Women thought like you this world would be a great place!
Dawn said...
"What are you talking about? I don't work here, I go to school."
Yeah, we know. Another misandrist puppet in training from the Womyn's Studies department.
Get a life you loser.
RM
Anon 1:56
Thank you, you make me blush.
CBGirl
Dawn,
have you seen the Kanan or McDowell studies on false accusation rate?
I rest my case.
The lady in the o.p. is a hurtin' toad. Probably the only thing that would help her is some kind of 'boot camp' to become a born-again Christian.
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