Wow... The NCFM issued a press release calling on Rihanna to "woman up" and confess to her own perpetration of domestic violence, and now the blogosphere is ON FIRE. All in the timing.
Here's the NCFM press release:
NCFM News Release calling on fair coverage of Rihanna/BrownThursday, November 5, 2009http://ncfm-activities.blogspot.com/2009/11/ncfm-news-release-calling-on-fair.html
Here are just some of the sites where the discussion is raging. I keep seeing posts saying things to the effect of, "Yes! I don't know who NCFM is, but thank God that they are speaking out and saying this!" All this right on the cusp of Rihanna going on the talk show circuit promoting her album and acting as though she represents victims everywhere. Take a look:
1. "NCFM: Rihanna Needs To Come Clean About Her Violence Too!"http://theybf.com/index.php/2009/11/05/ncfm-rihanna-needs-to-come-clean-about-her-violence-too/
2. "NCFM says: Blame Rihanna! She Deserved It!"http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/40795620.html
3. "CHRIS BROWN says Rihanna needs to come Clean About Her Violence Too!"(Actually Chris Brown did not say this; the blogger made a mistake and thought NCFM was speaking for him...)http://www.industryblitz.com/2009/11/chris-brown-says-rihanna-needs-to-come.html
And here's a little one that I found in the course of reading the frenzied discussion...
"Rihanna hits brother with a glass bottle"http://earsucker.com/2007/06/26/rihanna-hits-brother-with-a-glass-bottle/
Spread the word! While you're at it, please point people to DVStats.org (a searchable database of research on domestic violence against males) if you need any help convincing them of the sheer magnitude and validity of the data which show the true story about female perpetration of partner violence.
John Dias
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Rihanna is a drunk violent drug addict that is being enabled in her violence by the gender feminist community.
The faulty and inflammatory picture of a women beat half to death that was "mysteriously leaked" during the Chris / Rihanna media circus...was not Rihanna.
They're enraged because you're messing with their phony female victimhood narrative, just like happened at Duke! Rihanna needs to be an innocent victim or they can't use her to pimp their pseudo-religion.
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-why-women-should-be-concerned-about-mens-rights-groups/
According to this feminist blowhard, men's rights groups are becoming "disturbingly effective"!
It's probably wise to mention the Fiebert or Strauss sites too. People don't know what to look for if they don't know anything.
Maria Carey was on Larry King discussing HER DV a few days ago.
It was so obvious it was embarassing.
"I was beaten" "I was molested" seems to be the current kick off campaign for singers and actresses and book writers with wares to sell these days.
On one of those Nasty Grace shows the spokes models were shrieking about how unsafe women are, they can't even go "star gazing", when the three women disappeared in North Dakota --only to be found in 10ft of water they drove their Jeep into.
Not a word of apology...
Yesterday I searched for a bit about the case. Has what actually happened in the car between them ever been released? I've heard that she was the one who started hitting him while he was driving. If so that REALLY changes everything.
If that's the case and they have made her to be blameless it's disgusting. It's almost as pathetic as her having an interview about it and acting like she's standing up for women......just bc her new album is coming out. How sick is that?
"I was raped, buy my album!"
"On one of those Nasty Grace shows "
Grace is a complete fascist. Only in this day and age would that kind of stuff be aired.
The FRS is a mutual admiration society that nobody listens to. This site is the biggest joke on the web. Why? Because none of you are real "rapists". All of you found this site by accident. lol
WAKE UP~!
"The FRS is a mutual admiration society that nobody listens to. This site is the biggest joke on the web."
You have good reason to be afraid. The appointment of a victim of False Rape Allegation to an advisory board of the State of Illinois Corrections shows just how much the tide is turning.
"The FRS is a mutual admiration society that nobody listens to. This site is the biggest joke on the web."
Thanks for the publicity!
In a study that span nine years, sociologist Eugene J. Kanin’s findings were that in the United States, 41% of rape allegations are false. Kanin discovered that most of the false accusers were motivated by a need for an alibi or seeking revenge. Kanin was once popular and highly praised by the feminist movement for his groundbreaking research on male sexual aggression. His studies on false rape accusations have received very little interest.
These findings are not exceptional. The U.S. Air Force studied over five hundred rape accusations in 1985. More than 130 of the accusers admitted, either just before they took a lie detector test or after they had failed it, that no rape occurred. A more in depth investigation by independent reviewers established that 60% of the original rape allegations were a sham.
Linda Fairstein is the head of the New York County District Attorney's Sex Crimes Unit. She states there are a concerning 4,000 reports of rape each year in Manhattan. Of these, about 2,000 did not happen.
Read more: http://abuse.suite101.com/article.cfm/false_allegations#ixzz0W9RDuWZC
Anonymous said...
Yesterday I searched for a bit about the case. Has what actually happened in the car between them ever been released? I've heard that she was the one who started hitting him while he was driving. If so that REALLY changes everything.
If that's the case and they have made her to be blameless it's disgusting. It's almost as pathetic as her having an interview about it and acting like she's standing up for women......just bc her new album is coming out. How sick is that?
Nov 6, 2009 8:45:00 PM
According to the media, she was punching him in the head and kicking him while he was driving. She not only endangered her own life but, that of Chris and the public. All of this was know as the media and the public condemned him for retalliating.
know should be known
Sgt Jim,
off topic, but I note
your author at that web site, Karen S. also wrote,
"In July of this year, ABC News reported that there are about 60,000 female military personnel who have been sexually abused while serving for the United States military.
Prevalence of Sexual Abuse in the Military
Veterans Affairs researchers have found that one in seven female soldiers who were deployed to Afghanistan or Iraq and later sought health care reported being sexually harassed or assaulted during their military service. In contrast, the same research found 0.7% of male soldiers reported similar experiences."
Are you sure she has her head on right? There is a world of difference between harassment and assault. She doesn't tell us over what time period/range the 60,000 female soldiers come from. She doesn't tell us what % of soldiers (male or female) sought health care. and the .7% is probably due to under-reporting - when I went to get my V.A. disablity review a couple years ago, the board asked me if I was ever sexually abused in the military; they asked me that out of the blue, it has nothing to do with my disability, so I suspect if they ask it the percentage must be quite a bit higher.
Also the lady brags about conversing with D. Suzuki, who as far as I know is an expert on Zen Buddhism - so what?
And finally, she doesn't mention that the 41% in the Kanin study was recantations alone.
to tell you the truth, the impression I get about her is that she copies and pastes snippets from the web here and there, and that's about it. Also that suite 101 website looks kind of dinky, don't you think?
The U.S. Air Force study breaks down to 1 out of 4 for false rape accusations, which sounds quite accurate, considering not all incidents are reported.
Yeah, Rihanna deserved to be beaten to a pulp ... bloody, bruised face with black eyes. Many on this blog have probably done the same thing.
Yeah, Rihanna deserved to be beaten to a pulp ... bloody, bruised face with black eyes. Many on this blog have probably done the same thing.
So people who simply question and debate the fact of what actually happened are abusers? That's nice to show how stupid you are.
I will bet that the reality is that the majority of women who are blindly taking this topic as Rihanna somehow being a hero to feminism(even though she is disgustingly using this to simply sell albums) have emotionally and physically abused their boyfriends or husbands without any retaliation bc the large majority of men accept it bc that is what society dictates. It's the rare occasions when the man hits back an outcry of abuse is whined throughout the media.
If women learned that anybody hitting anybody is wrong and even if you hit someone who is stronger and conditioned to never hit back, there is a chance that it may indeed come back to you. Unfortunately the teaching of women that it's OK to hit men leads to more domestic violence.
May she rest in peace, but remember when sweet little Farrah Fawcett was FORCED to testify against her 'abuser'?
Mutual combat http://www.dvmen.org/dv-29.htm
It usually takes two to tangle!
In all surveys it is quite apparent that most domestic violence is the result of mutual combat. For example, from U.S. Army data Cook (1995) shows 60%-64% of the couples were both violent (Table 8). In looking at domestic violence as a function of age, Stets and Straus (1989) found that 52%-61% of couples between the ages of 18 and 34 were mutually violent (Table 9), although cocombatancy tapered off with older couples.
Mutual combat occurs even in families such as the 1999 Mrs. America, Starla Stanley, who admits to giving her husband a bloody nose, and he has shoved and slapped her (Salt Lake Tribune, October 18, 1999).
Or, in another famous example, who is the villain and who the victim in this fray?
From Farrah Fawcett's testimony in August, 1998, during a trial in Santa Monica, California, she described a fight with her lover, director James Orr, as follows: According to her, after dinner at his home he went in and laid down on his bed. Fawcett admits she started whacking the mattress with a fireplace poker. He stormed off to the kitchen; she followed and grabbed a drum stand. He picked up a bar stool. They faced off like lion tamers. Farrah then threw the drum stand and went off to the bedroom to pack. Orr drew her back into the fight by insulting her. She retaliated by kicking in a lead-plated window. As she left to go to her car, Orr grabbed her and spun her to the ground, fell on her, and her head hit the asphalt. Orr was convicted of assault for that. Fawcett, after getting up, ripped a sign out of his lawn and threw it through a window. Not content, the next day she smashed his car with a baseball bat. Note that the male is convicted, but who initiated and used the most violence?
Feminists really need to learn how to read. Where did anybody say anything about Rihanna deserving to be beating to a pulp? As usual logic flies out the window any time a woman is criticized for anything, even if it's as simple as saying that women shouldn't hit men because they're angry about an affair. If HE had been hitting HER and she has bashed him over the head with an ashtray then no feminist would feel sorry for HIM.
Rihanna is also a tasteless opportunist for using this issue to promote her work. This is nothing but man-bashing.
SgtMom, what you just described is Facett committing vandalism and the man hitting her in retaliation. If you're going to argue from an MRA standpoint you should try to use good examples, not poor ones.
Sgtmom is too busy balancing herself atop the fence. She lives on the edge instead of making any meaningful convictions? It's called sucking up to MRAs.
I have mixed feelings about this case.
IF she indeed hit and kicked Chris, then not only was that wrong but she shouldn't think that she should be free to do something like that without him reciprocating. Other sources said that she slapped him. I don't know about you, but does a slap really call for a beat-down as severe as Rhianna's?
It seems to me that Chris is stronger than Rhianna, so it shouldn't have been necessary for him to beat her like he did. If she did attack him first, it looks like that whatever she did was not enough to bruise him or for him to have an overnight stay at the hospital.
Here's the thing though. Is there any actual proof or documentation that she ACTUALLY hit him first? According to her, she never attacked him that night. If this is true then it's disturbing how people assume that she MUST have done SOMETHING to cause him to beat her like that.
I'm not excusing her or supporting her if she did indeed hit him first, but that is not nor should it be used as an excuse for Chris to beat her like he did.
don't know about you, but does a slap really call for a beat-down as severe as Rhianna's?
No, but has anybody suggested that it does?
"Fawcett admits she started whacking the mattress with a fireplace poker. "
Life (for her) can be an imitation of 'art', eh?
"The U.S. Air Force study breaks down to 1 out of 4 for false rape accusations"
If you're talking about the McDowell study, it was 28% based on recantations, and 60% overall.
Not to get off topic.
I think if Atom was banned than Renee should be too. If nothing else, she appears to be too stupid to converse with us.
SgtMom,
you forgot to mention that Strauss and the others have shown that women initiate DV at a rate equal to or greater than men.
"[SgtMom] lives on the edge instead of making any meaningful convictions? It's called sucking up to MRAs."
Anon, I can't tell if you're being tongue-in-cheek.
"The faulty and inflammatory picture of a woman beat half to death that was 'mysteriously leaked' during the Chris / Rihanna media circus...was not Rihanna"
Are you sure? If so, that changes the entire picture, doesn't it?
"SgtMom, what you just described is Facett committing vandalism "
No, you are wrong. Under current law, beating someone's car or other property is classified as DV.
I think if Atom was banned than Renee should be too. If nothing else, she appears to be too stupid to converse with us.
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I wouldn't ban Renee. I don't think she's anywhere near as idiotic as Jeana or Atom, and she doesn't turn every thread into a conversation about her.
No, you are wrong. Under current law, beating someone's car or other property is classified as DV.
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Oh? That's interesting.
I did not know that.
"No, you are wrong. Under current law, beating someone's car or other property is classified as DV.
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Oh? That's interesting.
I did not know that.
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Yes, I have seen it stated several times on Glenn Sacks' board. It usually comes up in the context of specific cases , for example I recall there was a woman who demolished her ex-boyfriend's car with a baseball bat (they even had 'after' pix of his car).
The problem is that here, we have another area of unequal treatment: if a man tears up someone's stuffed bunny, that is an instance of DV which affects his punishment; whereas the woman who beat up the man's above car got off pretty much scott-free, since she 'did it in an episode of rage', if I remember correctly.
The press didn't call it DV, as they probably would have had a man done it; and I believe she was in fact slightly punished for vandalism (fined or whatever).
btw, that use of asterisks is a good idea:)
As insane as it may sound, a man who hits the bed with a pillow during and argument is, at least according to feminist logic, considered to have committed DV.
should say "during AN argument".
Back to Chris Brown, people keep calling us assholes for pointing out that the violence in the relationship was anything but one-sided, and they accuse us of wanting to give him a free pass.
They're missing the point. Chris Brown has already been charged, convicted and sentenced. Rihanna is the one who has been given the free pass, and if it's true that she has assaulted him on numerous occasions as has been alleged, why hasn't she been charged with those crimes? Especially if she's going to use this situation to promote her music.
The feminists are regular Judge Dreds when it's time to prosecute a man; then the law is the law and that's all there is to it! But when a woman commits a crime the law suddenly becomes an inconvenience to be circumvented.
Men have to stop allowing these selfish, dishonest women to have it both ways.
Chris Brown deserves to be punished. Why should that excuse the girlfriend if she was also guilty of DV?
Or is she innocent by reason of vagina? I thought so.
Chris Brown deserves to be punished. Why should that excuse the girlfriend if she was also guilty of DV?
Or is she innocent by reason of vagina? I thought so.
Once again, is there actual proof (documentation, records, etc.) that she abused him especially on a regular basis? Has he come forward admitting that she abused him or at least hit him first that night? Or is all this victim-blaming; simply word-of-mouth in an attempt to find a reason for her being beaten and to save his image?
Rihanna is the one who has been given the free pass, and if it's true that she has assaulted him on numerous occasions as has been alleged, why hasn't she been charged with those crimes?
Ummmm, if it's true, maybe it's because he didn't press charges at those times.
Like I said, I don't condone women hitting men. My thing is, if she did anything that night, it wasn't to the severity of what he did to her. Since he's stronger, it shouldn't have been necessary for him to beat her to that point, especially if it was just a slap. There was visual proof of what he did to her, hence he was charged.
Ummmm, I don't care if he didn't choose to press charges, m'kay? It like, doesn't matter, m'kay?
Renee said...
" I have mixed feelings about this case.
IF she indeed hit and kicked Chris, then not only was that wrong but she shouldn't think that she should be free to do something like that without him reciprocating. Other sources said that she slapped him. I don't know about you, but does a slap really call for a beat-down as severe as Rhianna's?
It seems to me that Chris is stronger than Rhianna, so it shouldn't have been necessary for him to beat her like he did. If she did attack him first, it looks like that whatever she did was not enough to bruise him or for him to have an overnight stay at the hospital".
I noticed the media had plenty of pictures of Rhianna after the incident but, not one picture of what Chris looked like after what she did to him. Since there were no pictures of what he looked like after being assaulted, we do not know the extent of what Rhianna did to him. Seems very biased to me. Just as her appearance is very important to her, his is very important to him. IMHO, people have different but, many times, similar ways of dealing with being physically attacked. If some were assalting you, how much would you take before you retalliated?
Norm said...
"As insane as it may sound, a man who hits the bed with a pillow during an argument is, at least according to feminist logic, considered to have committed DV".
Nov 7, 2009 5:07:00 PM
I would bet it is considred DV if the man even breathes while the least bit angry, according to feminists.
Norm said...
"[SgtMom] lives on the edge instead of making any meaningful convictions? It's called sucking up to MRAs."
Anon, I can't tell if you're being tongue-in-cheek.
Nov 7, 2009 3:40:00 PM
Anon doesn't know tongue-in-cheek.
He's not the brightest twinkle lite on the tree.
The Farah Fawcett case was a pivotal DV case.
SHE started it, SHE provoked it, SHE continued it.
He was arrested.
SHE was threatened with charges when she refused to testify against him.
So, in spite of her own DV, she became the 'victim' and he went to jail.
After that she made her 'Burning Bed' movie, and became a poster model for DV.
Seriously.
"[SgtMom] lives on the edge instead of making any meaningful convictions? It's called sucking up to MRAs."
I think it's called not getting the attention you want on feminist blogs, and trying to get it on MRA blogs instead.
As for The Burning Bed, all I remember from that movie is: "TV dinners? You know I don't like them!"
And didn't he rip 200 pages out of each of her college textbooks so she'd flunk?
3:22, yup, makes ya wonder where she finds time. You'd think her time and effort would be better spent trying to get her son freed, instead of cleaning out the men's locker room.
"After that she made her 'Burning Bed' movie, and became a poster model for DV."
Cause by then she was too old to be a good looking Playboy swimsuit poster model anymore. Kind of like Jane Fonda - suck up to the patriarchy by being a bimbo when you're young, then when you turn ugly pretend you were brainwashed all along, and reverse course.
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