Friday, November 20, 2009

Down the Rabbit-Hole: The Loyola woman who accused three young men of rape recanted and the police aren't charging them, but the dean of students calls her -- a 'survivor.' Say what?!

"The rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way, and then dipped suddenly down, so suddenly that Alice had not a moment to think about stopping herself before she found herself falling down a very deep well."

We recently reported that a woman recanted after accusing three 18-year-old male classmates of raping her at Loyola University.  The university didn't think the incident posed a danger to the student population, and the police aren't charging the three young men. 

Now the dean of students had this to say -- and men, don't spit out your coffee or punch the computer screen when you get to the third paragraph:

Jane Neufeld, dean of students, said if the university felt the student population was in any danger following the report of the assault, an e-mail would have been sent out immediately.

“It’s been reported and it allegedly happened,” Neufeld said. “We’re following our procedures to get to the truth.”

“We take sexual assault very seriously,” she explained. “We need to be able to protect the survivor and all those involved at this sensitive time.”

Did you get that?  The woman recanted; the university itself didn't think there was a danger; the police aren't charging the three men who are barely older than boys -- but the woman is a "survivor"?

Come again?  And the female dean also says this is a "sensitve time"? 

Of course it's a sensitive time -- for the three falsely accused young men.  (Here's something you won't see feminists do, I'm going to engage in a little victim blaming: boys, you were stupid to put yourselves in that situation. No one ever deserves to be falsely accused of rape, but you need to be more careful about the women you trust.  It's an occupational hazard of being born male.)

But let's think about what it means to say she's a "survivor"?!  Here's the bottom line:  if she's a "survivor," the three young men must be RAPISTS.  So much for due process, the presumption of innocence, fairness, justice, and gender equity.  Dean Neufeld has declared the boys guilty by reason of penis.

What in hell is wrong with you, Dean Neufeld?  Seriously?  When you find this post -- and people like you usually do -- please write to me and explain what motivated you to use that term.  You trivialize rape and rape survivors by sweeping in their company women who recant rape claims. The only "survivors" here are the young men, but I suppose their victimization doesn't count, because of the penises and all.

And people wonder why young men are staying away from college in droves?

What is so difficult for people to accept here?  There was no rape; the woman recanted; the police aren't charging the young men with a crime; and the school needs to drop it.

And Dean Neufeld needs to apologize to the three survivors.

24 comments:

slwerner said...

"And Dean Neufeld needs to apologize to the three survivors."

I was just ranting about this on the last thread:
"It gets to the point that they can only bring themselves to care about women as victims, to the complete exclusion of any consideration of men"

Feminist (or, more correctly, gender-feminists) like Jane Neufeld have become unable to wrap their heads around the very notion that men can be victims.

If I had to guess (which I do, give the lack of detail forthcoming), Neufeld simply takes the position that a young woman has been made to be upset - in and of itself, a serious crime in the eyes of the gender-feminists. Thus, whatever the three young men did to upset the women was far more important than her making an FRA against them.

I couldn't help but notice that the University is continuing to "investigate". No doubt this means they are looking for ways to railroad the three young men in a kangaroo-court for the heinous crime of upsetting the women to the point that she was compelled to make the FRA (aka "cry for help from a troubled women").

My guess is that the three men will end up getting kicked out of school (for something, or other), and the woman will get a grade-pass for the current term (how could she be expected to perform up to her real capabilities after all she's been through?), along with (free) counseling to help her overcome the "tragedy" of her having been made upset.

Archivist said...

Good one, slwerner. And I repeat: they wonder why young men stay away from college? White, hetero young men instinctively know that they are regarded as second-class citizens. And criminals.

Anonymous said...

Universities are the worst places where feminism has taken control. I've seen quite a few obvious false rape claims be considered true. I actually took a class where at the end of the semester the girls in the class approached my friend and I and told us we should write a complaint to the university about how we were obviously harassed by our female professor who was so anti male that she made all of the girls uncomfortable. They all signed the letter. Of course it went completely ignored even though the fact was our grades were reduced at every turn simply for being male. Imagine if the genders were reversed.

My mother was also pushed out of her doctorate program after being the star student. The reason? Her thesis was going to e about domestic violence.....against males.

If you're looking for or expecting any sympathy or due process for males at college you are a bit naive.

Archivist said...

Anon, right. The "rape" trials are often kangaroo courts with procedures heavily titled against males. It is absolutely sick. The supposedly enlightened people in charge of these things often have a screw loose, they are so bent on "righting" the oppression they've convinced themselves is rampant against women.

The anti-American, anti-middle class, anti-Christian, anti-Israel, and yes, anti-male atmosphere is just deadly.

Exception: the sciences. The engineering profs don't seem to buy into this nonsense.

scott said...

It may take a civil rights action that removes the gender feminist misinformation Alliances from our law enforcement community.

Anonymous said...

Three men on a ONE woman?
Do any of you MRA's feel the same disgust I do? I bet they were "gentlemen" who truly feel they did nothing wrong.

And you call them 'victims' and 'survivors'. Unbelievable. Thank God the incident is still being investigated.

Archivist said...

"Three men on a ONE woman?
Do any of you MRA's feel the same disgust I do? I bet they were "gentlemen" who truly feel they did nothing wrong. And you call them 'victims' and 'survivors'. Unbelievable. Thank God the incident is still being investigated."

It must cause you lie awake at night to think of comments that top your previous comments for their utter stupidity. Congratulations, you've succeeded.

No one here is talking about morality apart from the letter of the criminal law. For the record, and not that it's at all pertinent to FRS, I have a problem with premarital sex generally, not to mention group premarital sex. But, dear reader (and I know by the style that you were banned previously here under a different name), the feminist movement has taught us that women are permitted to express their sexuality in an infinite variety of ways -- it's called empowerment -- and they are not to be questioned for it. If this young woman wanted to have sex with three young men, it was (unfortunately) her choice. She is, after all, a free moral agent, isn't she? It was not a crime, and absent her rape lie, no one would ever have heard about it.

And, dear reader, it is not me who suggested she lied about the rape -- a lie that could have sent three young men to prison for many, many years. She's the one who flatly admitted it. Her lie is consonant with a rash of lies about purported gang rape of late, including the one at Hofstra. But I am sure you would insist even Hofstra was an actual rape, despite the presence of a video that proves it wasn't.

Archivist said...

P.S. I am going to delete all subsequent comments that contain the phrase "you MRAs." I am an advocate for the falsely accused, an FRA opponent. Some women are also falsely accused, and I go to bat for them.

Johannes said...

is the incident still being investigated? i thought she'd recanted. which is the end of that matter as far as i can see.

anon's post is truelly bizzare. just very generally speaking, many people believe that when it comes to sex, men are always responsible. whatever happens.

if not i don't understand anon's comment. this seems to be a common attidute today. maybe this also explains why the FRA offender is still being viewed as a 'survivor'.

i think the bottom line is that men should be in the know that whatever happens during a sexual encounter can be used against them, as women are basically perceived as children. and not free moral agents.

Norm said...

Probably by 'survivor' she didn' t mean the girl 'survived' the false accusation itself, she instead means that the girl was not raped, like they thought she was. Get it? The rape epidemic is so bad, any woman who is not raped is a survivor.

Norm said...

@anon 1:31

"our female professor who was so anti male that she made all of the girls uncomfortable"

really? For that to happen, it must have been so bad that it was equivalent to physical torture or being burned alive.

Archivist said...

Norm at 9:09 -- of course that's what she meant. That's why the entire thing is so offensive.

Anonymous said...

"Three men on a ONE woman?
Do any of you MRA's feel the same disgust I do? I bet they were "gentlemen" who truly feel they did nothing wrong.

And you call them 'victims' and 'survivors'. Unbelievable. Thank God the incident is still being investigated."

Delete this post. All non-supporters should be deleted.

scott said...

Anonymous says
"Three men on a ONE woman?
Do any of you MRA's feel the same disgust I do? I bet they were "gentlemen" who truly feel they did nothing wrong."

Scott says..where have you been anomymous?? These girls that gang bang 3, 5, 10 guys at once are the new "gender/Raunch girls". To blame the boys that she gangbangs with, is to be "willfully ignorant" of the gender Raunch culture.

Anonymous said...

Gender / Raunch is liberating these girls to be the sexual pigs that they want to be.

Anonymous said...

Gender Raunch culture is simply "liberating" both boys and girls to fallow their sexual preferences, irrelevant of any social, societal pressures to "conform".

Anonymous said...

Norm said...
Probably by 'survivor' she didn' t mean the girl 'survived' the false accusation itself, she instead means that the girl was not raped, like they thought she was. Get it? The rape epidemic is so bad, any woman who is not raped is a survivor.

Nov 20, 2009 9:09:00 PM
and a " victim" ( according to the gender feminists).

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Gender Raunch culture is simply "liberating" both boys and girls to fallow their sexual preferences, irrelevant of any social, societal pressures to "conform".

Nov 20, 2009 11:28:00 PM

"Liberated" boys are considered criminals while liberated girls are cosidered "victims". This, IMHO, is a sick double standard amongst other sick double standards that are a result of gender feminism.

Anonymous said...

If a guy had sex with 3 women would you think all the women should be investigated?

Anonymous said...

Princess Cruises waiter acquitted in sexual assault case

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_13834854

Anonymous said...

I personally call the three young men survivors.

Anonymous said...

Gender Raunch culture is simply "liberating" both boys and girls to follow their sexual preferences, irrelevant of any social, societal pressures to "conform".

BULL SHIT. It's a trap. The female can now falsify rape charges at anytime. All males who participate in this activity can easily lose their liberty.

Anonymous said...

"If a guy had sex with 3 women would you think all the women should be investigated?"

Only if he caught the crabs.

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