Another in the cavalcade of rape myths, along with the two percent canard and the one-in-whatever (pick a number, I promise you there's support for it in the sexual grievance industry literature) lie, is that publicity about false rape claims, and charging false rape accusers with a crime, somehow deter actual rape victims.
All myths are concocted to serve a purpose. The purpose of this myth, for the uninitiated, is to lend plausibility to the sexual grievance industry's insistence that rape is rampant and that the actual number of rapes far exceeds the numbers of actual reports of rape. A secondary purpose is to coerce and shame people like us from discussing the false rape epidemic. The subject of false rape claims has been made so politically incorrect by the persons who dominate the public discrouse about rape that Professor Alan Dershowitz was once charged with sexual harassment for even raising the possibility of false rape claims in a class at Harvard.
Let's take a step back and explore the illogic of this myth:
On the one hand, the sexual grievance industry insists women don't lie about rape; on the other hand, they whine when we report irrefutable news accounts that women do lie about rape.
On the one hand, the sexual grievance industry insists false rape claims hurt actual rape victims; on the other hand, they refuse to do anything whatsoever to help eradicate the false rape epidemic.
On the one hand, the sexual grievance industry insists women will be deterred from reporting rape because of false accusers; on the other hand, not even other false accusers are deterred by false accusers.
The fact is, there's no credible support for the myth. None. Yet their entire cult of rape victimhood depends on it because without this myth, there is no underreporting, and without underreporting, rape is a relatively rare crime, and they can't come close to reaching the fabled one-in-whatever number of women are raped. Without this myth, it's obvious to everyone that (1) false rape claims are far more prevalent than actual rape claims, and (2) prison rape of innocent males is far more prevalent than rapes of females. (If you ever want to really expose the sexual grievance industry's lies in this area, just do a calculation trying to reconcile their one-in-whatever numbers with their standard numbers for underreporting, as we've done here. What you get are two wildly, fantastically inconsistent numbers, a divergence that only serves to underscrore their complete absence of credibility.)
Anyway, do you ever hear about burglary victims being hesitant about "coming forward" for fear of not being believed? Robbery victims? Victims of fraud? But rape, we are told is different.
I submit to you that, yes, rape is different. But the problem isn't that women are afraid of coming forward; the problem is that too many women come forward -- hordes of false accusers come forward, along with the actual rape victims. The dirty little secret is that women lie about rape a lot more than people lie about other crimes. FBI stats for two recent years show that women lie about rape anywhere from four to eight times more often than people lie about other serious crimes. And that's for claims where we know with certainty what happened. Unlike other crimes, most rape claims usually don't lend themselves to such certainty (they are of the "he said/she said" variety), and the number of false claims might be a lot higher. I mean, a lot higher. Why do so many women lie about rape? Because, as we've demonstrated time and time again, rape is extremely easy to lie about, and there are essentially no consequences for destroying the life of an innocent man or boy with a rape lie. The real question is, why aren't there a lot more false rape claims, given the ease with which rape lies are made?
Newsday talked about the issue of whether women are deterred from reporting rape due to false rape claims yesterday: "Experts interviewed for this story were not aware of any research on whether high-profile recantations in sexual assault cases - such as the Hofstra case or the 2006 case in which three Duke University lacrosse players were accused of rape and then vindicated - have a chilling effect on victims' willingness to report sexual assault. But victims' advocates said they had no doubt that public anger toward Ndonye would discourage actual victims of sexual assault from coming forward." Link: http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/hofstra-rape-case-could-alter-procedures-1.1531413
So there you have it. Experts aren't aware of any evidence for the myth. But the sexual grievance industry, that purveyor of misandry, insists it must be so. Along with all their other lies.
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OT, ish
http://shrink4men.wordpress.com/a-shrink-for-men-index/
My false accuser is CLEARLY a BPD/NPD, I wonder how many other false accusers are?
Just for fun, from
http://shrink4men.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/crazy-bitch-quiz/
This isn’t a rhetorical question. If you’ve asked yourself more than once, “Is my girlfriend/wife/fiancee a crazy bitch?” as a clinical psychologist, I’m here to tell you the answer is, “Yes. Diagnostically speaking, she may very well be a crazy bitch.“
A crazy bitch insidiously makes you feel like the unstable, angry person. You soon doubt your interpretation of events and experiences. In psychological circles, this type of woman is said to suffer from Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) or Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) or a combination of the two. Actually, the ones who really suffer are the people who come into contact with the Borderline or Narcissist.
Here’s a quiz to find out if you’re involved with one of these women:
* Does she fly into rages without warning over relatively trivial matters like a web page loading too slowly?
* Are you always the scapegoat/bad guy whenever she’s frustrated, disappointed or just plain bored?
* Do her friends (that is, if she has any) describe her as a “drama queen?”
* Does she describe herself as a drama queen? If so, congrats. You found one with a modicum of self-awareness.
* Is her lipstick a little too red? Is it applied like theater makeup and a tad crooked?
* Did sex begin with an earth shattering bang and fizzle into infrequent, transactional and conditional sex?
* Is she a black-and-white, all-or-nothing thinker?
* Do you lie to your family, friends and colleagues about what goes on at home?
* Do you find yourself making excuses to your family, friends and colleagues for her inexcusable behavior?
* walking_on_eggshellsDo you find yourself walking on eggshells around her?
* Does she hate your friends and family and become angry or tearful when you spend time with them?
* Is she pathologically jealous?
* Does she project her feelings onto you? For example, she’s yelling and raging and then accuses you of being angry. WTF?
* Does focus solely on her emotional experience while exhibiting little or no empathy for yours?
* Have you distanced yourself from friends and family because of your relationship?
* Does she place you on a pedestal one day only to tear you down the next day? “I’ve never known anyone like you before. You’re so wonderful!” Next day: “You’re the devil! You’re the most selfish bastard I’ve ever met! You don’t love me!”
* Did she change her identity after she landed you? For example, when you first met her she was a sexy, adventurous, sweet ballbuster; now, she’s afraid of her own shadow, has no outside interests and goes ballistic if she has to do anything without you.
* Does she put you into “no win” situations in which nothing you do is good enough and you’re guaranteed to fail?
* Does she exhibit stalker behaviors? This usually occurs during the courtship phase or when she senses you’re about to make a break for it. For instance: Calling and hanging up? Calling over and over and over until you answer the phone? Does she wait outside your home, uninvited, until you arrive? Does she show up at places she know you’ll be, also uninvited? Has she tried to get close to your friends in inappropriate ways?
If you answered “yes” to more than two of these questions, you may be involved with a Borderline or a Narcissist. You’re not alone. They’re everywhere.
AfOR
Enabling women and girls to make false rape accusations is the cornerstone of the gender feminist war on men. Not all men are under attack though..just the heterosexuals.
"...not even other false accusers are deterred by false accusers."
Exactly!
I don't think there's any way to demonstrate the nonsense of the "women will be deterred from reporting rape because of false accusers being punished" any more clearly, nor any way more irrefutably.
In fact, a more rational argument to make would be that the (relative) non-punishment of known false accusers clearly serves to encourage other false accusers that they can either be successful in their bid to ruin the life of an innocent man, or "walk-away" with a mere slap on the wrist for having tried.
The point I am attempting to make here is this...
I think that we would find is that the majority of false rape accusers have a serious personality disorder.
We are talking about a mental health issue.
Of course men with strange perspectives on the world sooner or later end up in the penitentiary, women get a "bye"
AfOR
". . . the (relative) non-punishment of known false accusers clearly serves to encourage other false accusers that they can either be successful in their bid to ruin the life of an innocent man, or "walk-away" with a mere slap on the wrist for having tried."
And that, of course, is one of the central, running themes of this site.
AfOR - "I think that we would find is that the majority of false rape accusers have a serious personality disorder."
AfOR,
Are you making this as a tongue-in-cheek comments?
Now, of course, the false-rape apologists (Kathleen Rice, etc.) will always declare any women caught lying about having been raped a "deeply troubled woman".
However, in my opinion, MOST false rape accusers are not mentally ill, but rather cold, calculating, self-interested, and without any empathy for the men who will be harmed.
We see this in so many instances where false rape claims are made to cover for infidelity - they are sick and twisted, but, completely rational. We also see the cold and calculation nature of those false rape claims made in domestic disputes. Again, in a perverse way, a very logical tactic to take. The same holds true for those instance where no sex takes place, but a false rape claim in made never-the-less to account for some other bad behavior on the part of the accuser. A rape claim is not only convenient, it is also the best way to deflect any anger the accuser might otherwise be facing - cold and calculating, but but a matter of mental instability.
Even in cases of after-the-fact regrets, the use of a false rape claim is a purely logical attempt at their personal absolution for their own role in consensual sex, and their attempt to rehabilitate their reputations amongst their peers.
The only time I would even suspect that mental illness comes into play is in those cases where the false rape claim was made in order to garner attention and sympathy.
The notion that a rape victim would be deterred from lodging a complaint with the police because she saw that the Hofstra accuser was a liar - is absurd. This assumes a stupidity on the part of actual rape victims that is staggering: "Gee, that woman lied about rape, and they caught her red-vagina-ed with video from a phone camera, so therefore, they won't believe me, even though I am telling the truth!"
How interesting the list includes red lipstick...
During my son's sentencing hearing my sister in law showed up wearing flaming red lipstick - all these years later it still disturbs me.
Now I know why.
14 possible pathways to false allegations: lying; borderline personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder, psychosis, gender prejudice, substance abuse, dementia, false memories, false interpretations, biased interviews, sociopathy, personality disorders not otherwise specified, investigative mistakes, and mistakes in determination of the degree of harassment. Copyright © 2006 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.
AfOR,
Are you making this as a tongue-in-cheek comments?
Actually, no....
My false accuser could be accurately described by what you say, hell, that is what I thought too.
THEN I started reading up about Bordeline Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and it was like someone turned the light on.
BPD/NPD are not "ilnesses", they are not "sicknesses", they are mental defects, and what is more they are mental defects THAT CAN ONLY EXIST if the mental defective is allowed to continue that behaviour pattern...
eg, nobody calls them on it, nobody imprisons them when they make false rape claims.
I am NOT saying they are sick in the head, so go lenient.
I AM saying they are sick in the head, so stop treating the cunts as citizens with equal rights to everyone else...
OK Miss Smith, you've accused your boyfriend of rape and DV to win a child custody battle, there is no evidence so I am sending you for psych evaluation, if your diagnosis is BDP/NPD you get to choose between jail time or time in a secure mental facility, where you will stay until / unless pronouced cured. Sole custody of the child is awarded to the father.
All rise.
AfOR
"BPD/NPD are not "ilnesses", they are not "sicknesses", they are mental defects, and what is more they are mental defects THAT CAN ONLY EXIST if the mental defective is allowed to continue that behaviour pattern..."
Granted that it probably does apply in some cases, but, I'd proffer these two potential problems with bring such "conditions" into consideration.
First, if we are too accepting that it happens in some cases, this will no doubt lead to it's liberal application to virtually all cases.
Which ties into the second potential issue - to potential for a mental disorder to be conflated with a mental illness.
A good example would be the Danmell Ndonye case, in which the prosecutor was clearly conflating the suggestion with her being a "deeply trouble young women" with her suffering from a mental illness, which, in turn, called for therapy rather than punishment.
Unfortunately, I can see this happening with great regularity as soon as the false rape apologists recognize that they can use it as a loophole for cold callus victimizers to avoid punishment.
I do understand that you are calling for them to be punished regardless of any existing (or claimed) personality disorders; but I can all too easily see feminist and chivalrous mangina judges and prosecutors taking great liberties with such a "diagnosis" to justify issuing deferred sentences rather than actual punishments.
In a more perfect world, it would be clear that, like false rape accusers, most all criminals suffer some form of personality disorder. And, as such, no "class" of criminals would be able to use it to their personal advantage.
However, in this world we do live in, there is a strong tendency to suppose the best of women, and to seek to justify and down-play any and all wrongdoing on their part.
Thus, your scenario is as likely to turn out:
"OK Miss Smith, you've accused your boyfriend of rape and DV to win a child custody battle, there is no evidence so I am sending you for psych evaluation, if your diagnosis is BDP/NPD you will be considered to have already suffered enough, and you will be given the opportunity to undergo (half-assed, BS) therapy so that YOU can be granted primary custody of the child.
We will reconvene in six months, at which time a court-appointed therapist will rubber-stamp your treatment, and I will award you custody.
All rise.
I am not especially interested in why "why" women make false rape claims, I must be perfectly candid. The very discussion of this subject smacks of attempts to rationalize lenient or no sentencing, and it's just another way of implying that false rape claims are rare aberrations. While "crazy" women might make false rape claims, men who don't rape need not fear because "normal" women -- which is the vast majority of womanhood -- would never do that. That's the attitude.
Sorry that I can't get more interested in this. It's off-topic in any event from a very important post. But I would add this in passing: there is no interest in finding out what makes men and boys commit sex offenses. In fact, ill-conceived science is applied to punish men and boys who have served their time for sex offenses but somehow we think it's OK to subject them to inhumane treatment that we would not wish on a dog. All in the name of protecting children and women.
Could some of this epedemic be due to "victim's Compensation"? My husband's accuser could get upwards of $50k if he is found guilty.
These drug addict prostitutes will OBVIOUSLY do anything for money, why not get it this way? Fifty Grand will buy a lot of dope!!
CBGirl
CBGirl, of course. There is no question this plays a part.
False rape accusers may be disturbed, and they're obviously losers, but they know exactly what they're doing. If there was any downside to their actions whatsoever then many of them would not commit their pathetic crimes.
CB girl, my false rape accuser also got a chunk of "victim funds". She also has a drug habit. I feel it is particularly disturbing for a society to enable sick/violent women to make false rape accusations for cash to feed their drug habit.
I've read that over 75% of women at battered women's shelters are drug addicts. I'm not absolutely sure that's true, though.
Another thing that makes me go "hum".
Can the government not see how fraud is taking over this country? Can they not see that these false rape claims are adding to the burden of the tax payers to pay out these 'victim's' compensations? Fraud is everywhere now so if they are paying them for these claims, then they have nothing to lose. They are criminals/druggies anyway.
Maybe we need to start writing letters to our Congressmen about this travisty.
I have written mine so much,(I love politics-Christian Conservative here, LOL) they call me now. So I am on it!!!
CBGirl
Archivist said...
I am not especially interested in why "why" women make false rape claims, I must be perfectly candid.
and
But I would add this in passing: there is no interest in finding out what makes men and boys commit sex offenses.
Hmmm, you say "women" in the first para, and you say "men and boys" in the second.
Not all women are false rape accusers.
Not all men and boys commit sex offences.
male sex offenders are a subset of males, and false rape accusers are a subset of women.
pointing this out, is CONTRARY to both what the feminists do, and indeed to your sentiments...
THIS IS IMPORTANT
You will NEVER make headway on the false rape issue as long as you brand ALL womankind as false rapists.
Frankly, it ain't even true.
_IF_ false rapists are closely related to Personality Disorders, then THAT is an excellent wedge to drive...
You say to feminists, "If you do not denounce false rapists, then you are a believer in Personality Disorders" much like the child pornography / censorship crap.
The only people who can possibly object are those with Personality Disorders themselves.
Oh, you don't have a personality disorder? Then obviously you won't be wishing to promote, or associate yourself with, those who do.
AfOR
AOfR said
Then obviously you won't be wishing to promote, or associate yourself with, those who do.
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This is the ONE thing I do not understand about my husband. Ok, he cheated on me but WHY with someone like this? Why not pick a nice professional woman (not a hooker, professional but a college educated woman?) Why associate yourself with such scum?
Was it worth it? I doubt it. But 3.5 months in jail for a crime one did NOT committ accused by a drug addict prostitute hopefully has taught him a lesson.
You are who you associate with. He KNEW what she was..of course he did not know she would pull this stunt. If he had, he probably would not have proceeded in the 'relationship'.
CBGirl
CBGirl
You are who you associate with. He KNEW what she was..of course he did not know she would pull this stunt. If he had, he probably would not have proceeded in the 'relationship'
This is a VITAL point.
Why did _I_ spend so long with my false accuser, who, frankly, wasn't the easiest person on the planet to live with?
The fact is I have only just discovered one VITAL fact.
She has a Personality Disorder, and such abusive behaviour is an eventual certainty with this type of person.
I DID NOT REALISE THAT.
I DID NOT REALISE THAT BECAUSE I DID NOT REALISE SHE HAD A PERSONALITY DISORDER.
I thought she was just difficuly, cranky, fragile, all the other words that we use.
NO FUCKING WAY would I have stuck around if I had known she has a Personality Disorder.
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For my future life, dead simple, NOW I KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR, avoid women with Personality Disorders.
How rare are women with personality disorders?
not at all rare, but the fact is, once you know what to deal with and look for, avoiding them is EASY.
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Why is the recidivism rate for sex crimes so low?
people ask...
Well, read above, there is your answer, you get burnt once by an BPD/NPD and you avoid them like the plague, job done.
This is a GREAT site, but
http://shrink4men.wordpress.com/a-shrink-for-men-index/
made me see and understand how I got to the place where I needed this site.
AfOR
AfOR at 2:47: no reasonable construction of my words supports your crabbed and peculiar misreading of them. Sorry.
Nor do I agree with the remainder of your comment.
I don't get it either, Archivist. It's like saying, "I don't care why teens have sex out of wedlock." Nobody would interpret that to mean ALL teens have sex out of wedlock. But certainly teens do have sex out of wedlock.
OK, I'll drop it.
It was just a Eureka moment for me to discover that all important answer to the questions of..
WHY?
WHAT DID I DO WRONG?
WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS?
And the answer was of course
Nothing, you just were not aware of BPD/NPD, THAT is why you got falsely accused.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1215464/Why-I-loathe-feminism---believe-ultimately-destroy-family.html
ERIN PIZZEY set up the world's first refuge for battered women in 1971 - and went on to establish an international movement for victims of domestic violence. But what she has never made public before is that her own childhood was scarred by the shocking cruelty of both her parents.
AfOR - "She has a Personality Disorder, and such abusive behaviour is an eventual certainty with this type of person."
AfOR,
While I certainly do not wish to minimize your personal experience with a woman with BPD, I would still argue that it comes into play in only a specific few instances of false rape allegations.
Most false allegations come not as a result of a mood swing, or temporary dissociation event, but rather as a well reasoned tool towards a personal end.
As I mentioned earlier, if a woman needs to explain evidence of sexual activity with someone other than her partner, a rape claim is the only logical alternative reason she could hope would suffice.
Or, as I had neglected, but CBGirl and Scott remind us, if a woman is inclined towards receiving victims compensation money (often enhanced amounts given specifically to victims of alleged rapes), the only way for them to get that money is to claim that they've been raped.
If a woman with BPD has neither of these personal goals in mind (nor any other particularly well served by using a false rape allegation), she might just as well accuse you of plotting to kill her in her sleep, or some other such crime. The BPD woman is simply lashing out at you, and not necessarily for either logical reasons, nor in particularly logical ways.
The specific use of a false rape claim is, however, a perfectly logical "tool" to use whether or not a given women has BPD or not.
Most false allegations come not as a result of a mood swing, or temporary dissociation event, but rather as a well reasoned tool towards a personal end.
You just described a BPD/NPT personality mate....
AfOR
anon says
I've read that over 75% of women at battered women's shelters are drug addicts. I'm not absolutely sure that's true, though.
Scott says..I have also heard that these shelters are being used as a womens homless shelter, for women with drug habits who spend all their rent money on drugs.
In the article I just linked to, Prizzey said that 62 of the first 100 women who walked through the door of the world's first women's shelter were themlselves abusers...
AfOR
How much did your false accuser get Scott? Just curious. I apologize if I am stepping over boundries. Don't answer if I am;)
I do wonder since there are so many witnesses (now 6 can account for him during the time of the alleged crime but he remains jailed) to my husband's whereabouts when this supposed crime happened, if something more sinister is going on.
CBGirl
It's sad. These battered women's shelters aren't even sheltering battered women any more. At least in the past there were more abused women than liars, but now the liars are soaking up all of the resources (and the attention).
This system isn't even about helping any genuinely abused women. It's all about supporting liars so they can afford more crack, and about raking in the government dollars.
How come I'm the only one who ever seems to notice this?: when the public finds out the way rape claims are treated by the system, for example when cases like Duke appear in the media, false accusers as well as legitimate ones are actually encouraged to come forward. It is obvious why this is true...look how far things can go on just a claim - that is, on the woman's word alone.
Archivist said...
I am not especially interested in why "why" women make false rape claims, I must be perfectly candid. The very discussion of this subject smacks of attempts to rationalize lenient or no sentencing, and it's just another way of implying that false rape claims are rare aberrations. While "crazy" women might make false rape claims, men who don't rape need not fear because "normal" women -- which is the vast majority of womanhood -- would never do that. That's the attitude.
Sorry that I can't get more interested in this. It's off-topic in any event from a very important post. But I would add this in passing: there is no interest in finding out what makes men and boys commit sex offenses. In fact, ill-conceived science is applied to punish men and boys who have served their time for sex offenses but somehow we think it's OK to subject them to inhumane treatment that we would not wish on a dog. All in the name of protecting children and women.
Oct 19, 2009 1:58:00 PM
Very well put
BNP and/or MPD = Things for gender feminists to claim more victimhood for women? "She is a VICTIM of BNP/NPD" ?
Are males going to be blamed for this too?
SgtMom said...
" How interesting the list includes red lipstick...
During my son's sentencing hearing my sister in law showed up wearing flaming red lipstick - all these years later it still disturbs me.
Now I know why".
Do you remember Hollywood's cinematic femme fatale's? If I remember correctly,they wore red lipstick. Red is the normal color of what body fluid? Blood
Anonymous said...
" OK, I'll drop it.
It was just a Eureka moment for me to discover that all important answer to the questions of..
WHY?
WHAT DID I DO WRONG?
WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS?
And the answer was of course..."
Oct 19, 2009 3:37:00 PM
IMHO, this is how gender feminsts would bluntly answer your questions;
" WHY"? If you are a male, the answer is obvious. You are a male who obviously did something to bring it upon yourself. It's your fault.
WHAT DID I DO WRONG? You were born with a y chromosome.
WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS? See the answers to the questions above.
The long answers I won't even bore you with as I have been tired of hearing them myself.
In regards to domestic violence, abuse shelters for women were mentioned by some of you, a visit to the following site might prove interesting.
http://www.mediaradar.org/
No, this is not spam.
Norm said...
How come I'm the only one who ever seems to notice this?: when the public finds out the way rape claims are treated by the system, for example when cases like Duke appear in the media, false accusers as well as legitimate ones are actually encouraged to come forward. It is obvious why this is true...look how far things can go on just a claim - that is, on the woman's word alone.
Oct 20, 2009 1:42:00 AM
Being the victim of a false accusation, I noticed.
"look how far things can go on just a claim - that is, on the woman's word alone."
Living in a woman's state, I know how far things can go when a woman makes a simple accusation. The whole damn system comes at the man, in full force, ready to destroy him and everything about him. There are no apologies when/if it is discovered he was innocent all along. Do yourselves a favor guys, avoid Tennessee at all costs.
Read this; http://www.radarsvcs.org/docs/RADARreport-Ranking-of-States-DV-Laws.pdf
If a man's civil rights can be abused when he is simply accused of domestic violence against a woman, you can imagine how his rights, including his constitutional and human rights, can be violated. Imagine how they are violated when/if he is simply accused of raping,sexually assaulting a woman or, committing any other crime against her.
How come I'm the only one who ever seems to notice this?: when the public finds out the way rape claims are treated by the system, for example when cases like Duke appear in the media, false accusers as well as legitimate ones are actually encouraged to come forward. It is obvious why this is true...look how far things can go on just a claim - that is, on the woman's word alone.
Bingo!!!
Anon said:
Imagine how they are violated when/if he is simply accused of raping,sexually assaulting a woman or, committing any other crime against her.
Oct 20, 2009 4:02:00 AM
I don't have to imagine, I know. They are treated as guilty, they are slandered, they are thrown in jail without proper representation, they are treated like scum. Bail is set at exhorbant amounts, they are denied medical care, they are denied appointments with their attorneys. They are awaiting life in prison and these are the ones who are falsely accused. (Except those with funds and well known families) They are treated differently, at least in our area.
CBGirl
Red lipstick was in vogue during the 1040' -50's, and ALL moms wore it when I was a kid.
When I first entered the military red lipstick was offically listed as part of the 'WAF' uniform - in 1971! (along with girdles and stockings when those things were long out of style).
"Disturbed" gals aren't just getting away with false rape accusations
Women who have molested children are sometimes given a pass because they use 'bi polar' disorder as an excuse. (You most def want to stay away from a bi polar woman, btw).
A woman found to be intentionally making her children sick to gain sympathy and attention has Munchaussen's by Proxy. Hospitals have even installed hidden cameras to catch women at it.
When they are caught, there is no 'poor disturbed woman' reaction - their children are taken from them and they do JAIL time.
Women who make false abuse accusations of her children to garner attention, sympathy and victimhood also have Munchaussen's by Proxy. They intentionally put their child through invasive physical exams and police investigations. They have no problem putting an innocent person through the world's most hellish nightmare by false accusation, either. It's all part of the excitement.
When caught, they just go back to their lives.
No punishment for the poor thing.
Usually they aren't caught - since an accusation of child abuse is almost automatic conviction for the accused.
When 'stalking' hit the talk show circuit in the '90's, my sister in law made the claim she was being 'stalked', but refused to involve the police - she seemed content to complain and talk about how terrified she was.
In high school she was always claiming to be pregnant - many times. Tears. Agnst - "I'm CATHOLIC! What am I gonna DOOOO?"
When Oprah introduced us to DV, guess what? One night her husband got drunk, blacked out and doesn't remember it ,but he BEAT HER UP!!! He was no longer allowed to drink, but it didn't stop HER from swigging a beer and retelling the tale.
She dropped that story quickly when no one responded...much as I despise her husband, I didn't believe Mr. Milquetoast had it in him.
Then she discovered "The World Of Child Abuse" (her husband's words)and life is good.
SgtMom, only thing I would disagree with is the almost "automatic conviction" of an accused child predator. I think hard evidence puts a predator away.
Also, think of all the thousands of predators of your day and mine who got away with child molestation.
The "red lipstick" thing is interesting. In high school, we wore red lipstick ... just like our moms. Ick!
Atom - most people 'presume' it takes hard evidence to put anyone away.
I've posted this before, but I'll post once again - however much it takes.
Take a minute to read it over. If you know something this guys doesn't - or you can verify he's lying, I'd love to hear about it.
This is exactly how my son's case went down, except they don't touch on rape shield laws hiding previous false accusations.
http://paulstuckle.com
The Rules to Have Changed to Secure Convictions
All across our nation, state legislatures have supported child advocacy special interest groups. The following illustrates how constitutional rights have been taken away in child sexual assault trials:
No Right to Confront Your Accuser:
Criminal law codes have been rewritten to where in many cases, the child accuser does not have to appear in court and face the accused. Instead, the state can offer the child’s testimony through a video tape made by agents of the prosecution.
“Hearsay Evidence”:
Hearsay is defined as “a statement, other than one made by the declarant while testifying at the trial or hearing, offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted.” (Tex. Rules. Evid. 803 (2)). In Layman’s terms, “Hearsay” evidence is when a witness testifies about something they do not personally know, but were told by someone else. Hearsay is considered unreliable and is normally inadmissible as evidence against an accused. In child abuse cases however, hearsay evidence is admitted as evidence of guilt. A so called “outcry” witness can testify as to what a child supposedly said to them regarding the alleged abuse.
“Syndrome Evidence” Is Admissible Against the Accused:
In most states, the prosecution can have an expert witness testify that the child is suffering from “Child Sexual Abuse Accommodation Syndrome”(CSAAS). This psychological “mumble jumble” is an unscientific theory of supposed traits of abused children. The psychologist who came up with this syndrome many years ago has since indicated that this theory is not reliable evidence in a court of law. Prosecutors do not care! This junk science makes its appearance in courtrooms across the country daily.
With Syndrome Evidence, the State Replaces Its Lack of Real Proof with Speculation.
CSAAS theorizes that because an alleged victim is supposedly demonstrating certain behavioral patterns that he/she must have actually been abused. Unfortunately, a big problem with this and other syndromes is that the character traits offered to show abuse are also common for non-abused children. If the child has been crying, he/she must have been abused. If the child has nightmares, he/she must have been abused. If the child is withdrawn, he/she must have been abused. If the child is outgoing, he/she must have been abused. If the child is happy around the accused, its because the child enjoyed the abuse. The list of factors goes on forever. But to a jury, when an expert witness is connecting typical childhood behavior with indicators of abuse, the testimony is extremely damaging to the falsely accused.
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Convictions Without Physical Evidence:
Our prisons are full of persons who have been convicted of child molestation without any physical evidence ever introduced against them at trial. In other words, the typical evidence in which the state offers to convict a defendant, such as body fluids, blood, semen, hair, DNA, are not introduced at trial to link the accused to a crime.
Medical nurses and employees whose livelihoods depend upon their contracts with child advocacy centers will give opinions that a child was abused. Failure to give the right opinion will mean the contract is not renewed. These opinions from medical “experts” will say the findings are “consistent with” sexual abuse. Of course, “consistent with” is not a true medical diagnosis. This testimony, as demonstrated by a competent defense attorney will reveal the findings given as “consistent with abuse” are just as “inconsistent with abuse”.
Prosecutors Secure Convictions by Manipulating the Juries’ Fear of
Releasing a Child Molester Back Into the Community.
Instead of physical and medical evidence, the falsely accused are convicted upon theories, inferences, and speculation. Prosecutors secure convictions by manipulating the juries fear of releasing a child molester back into the community. This fear will be combined with hearsay, expert witness “syndrome evidence”, misleading medical testimony, and the biased opinions of child advocacy investigators.
To support this speculation, a biased child protective services caseworker will produce a video taped interview of the child. This biased interviewer will use leading, suggestive, and coached questions to easily obtain an “admission” from a child. Many times the child does not make a statement that abuse occurred, but merely agrees with the adult authority figure who informs the child of the abuse.
After an outcry, it is easy to find witnesses who can place the accused in circumstances in which he was alone with the alleged victim.
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There MAY be "hard evidence" in the case of a truly person.
That's merely a bonus.
If there is no evidence, there is no problem.
"Children Don't Lie" is evidence enough.
Here is another case you might want to read about.
Don't forget, Atom. Women have been falsely accused and spent HARD prison time on children's false accusations. No one is safe.
Not me.
Not you.
http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2009/05/accusers-as-victims-case-study.html
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