Pink is everywhere this month as government and commercial entities alike have joined hands to urge us to fight breast cancer. More than 40,000 women will die of it this year, according to the American Cancer Society. American Cancer Society.
What is often lost in the tidal wave of pink is that more than twice that number of men will die this year of lung cancer. More than 27,000 men will die of prostate cancer. When was the last time someone urged you to eradicate prostate cancer?
And, yes, women die of other cancers, too. For example, far more women die of lung cancer than breast cancer.
So why the push to fight for breast cancer to the exclusion of other cancers? Is it because any help to fight breast cancer will almost exclusively benefit women while efforts to fight other cancers will also benefit men? And isn't society much more prone to want to help women than men? And doesn't this suggest a latent misandry?
Sounds cynical? OK, then explain why we largely ignore all other cancers except breast cancer.
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An educated friend of mine told me that the biggest waste of donation dollars in the American health care system is on breast care funding.
There cup overfloweth to such a degree that the spillage that is wasted, is more than the overall budget to study many childrens types of cancer.
The new matriarchy will allow few voices of reason to penetrate the ear piercing hysteria.
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archivist says, "... far more women die of lung cancer than breast cancer."
Color me dumb ... I didn't know that!
And what is the leading cause of lung cancer? "smoking"
Men get breast cancer, too.
Per chance the answer is vanity. Now I have not seen someone who got the double breast surgery or what have you, but I remember seeing the photos in the late 90's and they looked rather flat chested and it was emphasized by the t.v. program that it was a negative thing vanity wise.
This is good, because MRA's put too much emphasis on prostate cancer. And considering that it does get some coverage, it has become the 'token' men's health issue...everyone can point to it and say, "See - we do care about men!"
"And what is the leading cause of lung cancer? "smoking" "
Yeah, but more men 'choose' to smoke. It is due to the high level of stress which they 'place themselves' under. Also, men 'do not come forward' about their health problems.
In short, men's health problems are men's own fault so they need to fix their own. I have seen this mentality parroted numerous times.
women concentrate on breast cancer more than any other cancer because women are sexual animals, and they find it sexually exciting to talk about breasts in public, under the guise of preventing cancer.
its the same as the nude calendars they pose for. they say its all for charity, but its really exibitionism.
SgtMom, accidentally revealing her true personality again. No doubt putting back on her MRA disguise.
Yes, a latent misandry for sure.
And Sgt. Mom, he said "any help to fight breast cancer will almost exclusively benefit women . . . ." He never suggested that no men ever get breast cancer. But do you really think that anyone would have ever heard of breast cancer if the only cases of it were the relatively few men who get it?
women concentrate on breast cancer more than any other cancer because women are sexual animals, and they find it sexually exciting to talk about breasts in public, under the guise of preventing cancer.
LOOOL! What a random thought; clearly you pulled this out of your arse. Of course for you it all goes back to the breasts itself instead of cancer.
Do I think prostate and testicular cancer should get just as much attention and publicity in the media, of course. But there's something I wonder about though.
Is one of the reasons prostate and testicular cancer aren't focused on as much because men aren't really comftorable talking about it? It seems that anything dealing with problems related their genitals are "put at arms length" if you will. Of course, this isn't true for those who went through with it themselves or had a loved suffer from it.
I could be wrong since I'm not a guy (although some of you guys think you're experts when it to women and what they think and do like Steve here).
Renee,
why is it that women always look so excited when they're campaigning for breast cancer?
its like a party atmosphere! "YAY! campaigning for breast cancer!"
now why would that be?
we never see this sort of excitement with lung cancer campaigns, or cancer of the rectum.
your all just exibitionists, dying to display your bodies at any opportunity (see 'the internet'), and breast cancer gives you that, with a cover, ofcourse for those that need it).
and frankly it weirds me out that women can use a cancer campaign to titilate themselves.
SteveUK said...
to titilate themselves.
lol
Renee said...
But there's something I wonder about though.
Is one of the reasons prostate and testicular cancer aren't focused on as much because men aren't really comftorable talking about it?
well ofcourse we're not comfotable thinking about it. because any sensible person (read: men not women) dont get any sexual pleasure from thinking about our testicles when its cancer related, so why the hell do women??
its just weird to me.
"Is one of the reasons prostate and testicular cancer aren't focused on as much because men aren't really comftorable talking about it?"
Yeah, and feminist society is responsible. Men have been taught that their sexuality is dangerous (ie "All men are rapists"), thus talking about it is bad, mmkay?
SteveUK,
So what if they're enthusiastic about it? It's not making light of the cancer, or campaigning FOR breast cancer (seriously...campaigning for breast cancer??? lol). You don't campaign FOR a cancer! I see it as optimism towards finding a cure and celebrating the courage of/admiring those who went through it.
What you want everyone looking solemn and unenthusiastic?
But of course since to you seem to think that breasts are ONLY sexual objects and shouldn't be openly discussed, that must mean that those women who take part in breast cancer awareness are exibitionists, never mind the actual CANCER.
well of course we're not comfotable thinking about it. because any sensible person (read: men not women) dont get any sexual pleasure from thinking about our testicles when its cancer related, so why the hell do women??
its just weird to me.
Well your line of thinking is highly weird. What I was saying was that because men may not be comfortable talking about it, then it doesn't get the same exposure and awareness as breast cancer. It has nothing to do with sexual pleasure thinking about breasts or testicles when it's cancer related. GOOD GRIEF!
You claim that men are sensible, yet you believe that women get sexual pleasure from talking about breast cancer lol. Hilarious, it doesn't get any crazier than that.
Yeah, and feminist society is responsible. Men have been taught that their sexuality is dangerous (ie "All men are rapists"), thus talking about it is bad, mmkay?
Really??? Does everything always go back to feminism?
To me, there seems to be a reluctance in discussing anything any problems, cancers, conditions related their genitals because our society still links sexual performance and functionality with masculinity.
Just something that I've pondered on. Not saying that there aren't other factors involved.
@Renee...
Men and boys are shamed by others, particularly women, regarding their genitals and sexuality from the time of their birth. This shaming has gathered significant pace over the past half century.
It is not at all surprising that men have particular difficulty seeking help regarding those aspects of their physiology.
Furthermore medical settings have been feminised to an even greater extent than our education systems. They are not welcoming environments for males.
steve says
why is it that women always look so excited when they're campaigning for breast cancer?
its like a party atmosphere! "YAY! campaigning for breast cancer!"
now why would that be?
we never see this sort of excitement with lung cancer campaigns, or cancer of the rectum.
your all just exibitionists, dying to display your bodies at any opportunity (see 'the internet'), and breast cancer gives you that, with a cover, ofcourse for those that need it).
and frankly it weirds me out that women can use a cancer campaign to titilate themselves.
Oct 12, 2009 12:19:00 PM
I SAY..wow, that is a very interesting observation, i will have to ponder that one for a while!!
"To me, there seems to be a reluctance in discussing anything any problems, cancers, conditions related their genitals because women still link sexual performance and functionality with masculinity."
Fixed.
P.S. Remember how "funny" everybody thought it was when John Bobbitt was sexually disfigured by his wife before you attempt to dispute this fact, femitrolls.
It is not "society" that links male sexual performance with masculinity, it is WOMEN.
My dearest 'Anonymous'heckler,It is RARELY ever aknowledged men get breast cancer.
They do.
How in the world did you POSSIBLY find something to get nasty about my pointing that out?
That being said....
I too have always found it strange -and annoying- that BOTH genders are so focused on breast cancer.
Yes, I said BOTH genders.
On this very site you have posted a group of college guys dressed in pink to support breast cancer, and pointed out women don't respond in kind to testicular cancer.
How does THAT translate to only women/ matriarchs/feminists bullying cancer research dollars to their own exclusive club?
That doesn't make a lick of sense.
I have personally witnessed large groups of men participating in "walk for the cure" or "Run for the cure" campaigns. I've seen guys pull a pink ribbon campaign chapstick out of their pocket. I see pink ribbons on their license plates and bumper stickers.
Men support this as much as women.
They claim it's about saving their wives or their mothers - Dad's testicles don't matter? Their kid's Ewings sarcoma doesn't count?
I know guys who wear pink ribbons who's mothers and wives don't have cancer. What gives with that?
Personally I have never been all that on board with the whole breast cancer thing.
I really don't get it.
Breast cancer runs in my family, but large breasts don't. I've been on the outside looking in with the breast fixation thing.
My personal theory is MEN are very supportive of breast cancer campaigns because they like breasts.
Women, as usual, cash in on it.
Yeah. I'm speaking as a sour grapes 'fried eggs' girl.
So start blasting, "Anonymous" heckler. I'm saying it - it's MEN's fixation on women's breasts, and women taking advantage of it fueling this stupidity.
I'll say it again - men get breast cancer, too. CHILDREN get cancers.
The big whoop-de-do however, is always about "saving the ta-ta's, is it not?
Save The Ta-Ta's. That's even the name of a new campaign - MEN'S silly juvenile name for woman's breasts!!!
They know men will be tripping all over themselves to 'save' them....
...all the other cancers just have to rely on their jolly personality...:-)))
SgtMom,
My personal theory is MEN are very supportive of breast cancer campaigns because they like breasts.
I'm not saying that I think this applies to all men, but with that being said, this is true. I've seen breast cancer awareness slogans, flyers, what have you, that basically implied that finding a cure to breast cancer is important because you gotta save those boobs! As if their very lives don't matter.
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If you google save the ta tas you'll find photos of women with ENORMOUS - I'm talking soccer ball sized 'ta tas' to be saved. Not older lady ta tas. Young, silicone enhanced ta tas.
Guys - try a sense of humor - or to put it in no uncertain terms: SAVE THE GOODIES.
That's something women relate to...
Cripes,already! You want something bad enough, just ASK for it.
@ everyone
This is a little bit of a stretch and a weak topic. However i do see the point that is trying to be made.
As with most things in life Men are given the "suck it up, princess!" while Women are heralded and called survivors/victims.
It has a familiar ring to it, even if it is not really something to be arguing over.
"In 2008, there were the same number of new cases of Prostate Cancer (186320) as Breast Cancer (184450), as estimated by the American Cancer Society. ...
www.prostatecancerpetition.org/"
This is the only issue i have. Millions of Men and Women campaign against breast cancer. All the time.
I attribute this to Mens mental trend to want to care for women (in a protective sense) and Women looking out for themselves and their sisters (another natural trend).
Men feel left out because firstly most Men are too scared to speak of prostate/testicular cancer (it is in a sensitive area and can have long term effects on a potential love life, more so than breasts anyways).
Also not many Women get behind testicular/prostate cancer at least not to the same extent and Men behind breast cancer.
IMHO, a lot of the weight lays on Men for this one, not Women or Femis. Men are the ones generally who will hide their pain and suffering as not to appear weak. It is just how stubborn they are and as such we don't give a lot for anyone around to help us work with.
Just my 2c.
You make an excellent point. I've said it before, it bears repeating, men's best trait is also their worst - stoicism.
One stereo-type-with-merit is that of the woman dragging her man in for a check up.
If men were actually sounding out about THEIR cancer and being ignored, this would be unacceptable. Criminal, in fact.
Are they?
Years ago it was a fact that MEN'S heart health was the primary researched illness, with women's heart health almost completely ignored.
If you must have an illness, HEART DISEASE is the way to go! It's 'old school' researched and they got it down!
As far as cancer research goes, I believe it's bogus for everyone.
All these years and years of money and research, and nothing to show for it...but more cancer at younger and younger ages.
Want to avoid cancer? Eat 'real'. Avoid man made anything. Keep your soul clean. Be grateful for every day you are given.
"medical settings have been feminised to an even greater extent than our education systems. They are not welcoming environments for males."
I agree. Especially in hospitals with the pig nurses. I checked myself out the last two times against doctor's orders because the nurses and female doctors were pigs. Especially female interns at the V.A., though the other time was a private hospital.
EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT points Sgt.Mom and Veldan :)
Hospitals are FEMINIZED?
Are you nuts?
Since when were women into stark, sterile utilitarian -ism?
Have YOU ever had a mammogram? NOOOOO woman could possibly have been sadistic enough to dream THAT torture up!
Unless by 'feminized' you mean there are too many females working there.
Sorry. I just realized that's what you must have meant....
'Sgt Mom' sounds like a dipshit.
If Renee says something is an "excellent post", then in all probability it is blasphemous junk. At least if she's talking about a 'Sgt Mom' post.
@ Norm, I'll try and take that as a compliment? :P
I do agree that it is very female (in regards to staffing) however this is mainly to all the lovely stereotypes revolving male nurses as gay.
I have had a few hospital experiences(surgery two weeks ago in fact) and i do find that the attitudes of the female staff can range from avid man hating to sweet if you talk nicely.
This is all neither here nor there, they'll treat you either way. They just may not say "You're welcome" when you thank them.
Veldan,
I wasn't referring to your post - I handn't read it.
I was referring to Sgt. Jim's post.
Norm,
If Renee says something is an "excellent post", then in all probability it is blasphemous junk. At least if she's talking about a 'Sgt Mom' post.
So if I called your post excellent, I'll be saying that it's actually blasphemous junk. Good to know.
"So if I called your post excellent, I'll be saying that it's actually blasphemous junk"
I dunno, have you ever called any of my posts excellent? Usually you are too busy over-reacting to them.
Norm,
HA! I am the LAST person who has overracted to anything since being on here. 9 times out of 10 it's you all towards anything I've posted.
That sounds like an over-reaction to me.
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