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Sunday, October 18, 2009

Heene family must not be charged for hoax as it would deter other families from coming forward when looking for help in a rescue

The Heene family hoax from last Thursday, involving a Colorado couple that claimed they thought their six-year-old son was inside a large helium balloon that inadvertently got away and traversed the sky for fifty miles, has been given more newspaper ink than any false rape claim in recent memory except maybe Duke lacrosse. That, in itself, tells us something is terribly wrong with the priorities and political bent of the American news media. Although the balloon hoax caused police and rescue resources to be diverted to the Heene's little show, a false rape claim is often far more serious because when specific males are targeted, a false rape claim plays Russian roulette with the life of an innocent man or boy.

The local sheriff is disappointed in the Heene case, according to this news report, "that he couldn't level more serious charges in the incident . . . . 'We were looking at Class 3 misdemeanor, which hardly seems serious enough given the circumstances," [Sheriff Jim] Alderden said. 'We are talking to the district attorney, federal officials to see if perhaps there aren't additional federal charges that are appropriate in this circumstance.' Alderden earlier said the family could be charged with making a false report to authorities — a Class 3 misdemeanor — if it was determined the balloon saga was a hoax. The low-level crime carries a maximum sentence of six months in jail and a $750 fine, with a minimum sentence of a $50 fine."

I have two questions: First, when was the last time we heard a law enforcement official express disappointment that he or she couldn't level more serious charges for a false rape claim? I follow false rape news stories closely, and I must say I am drawing a blank. What we often hear instead are excuses why they can't charge a particular false rape accuser (e.g., Duke lacrosse, Hofstra, etc.). On the other hand, I can think of a multitude of false rape claims that did far more serious harm, by any objective measure, than the balloon hoax.

Second, do you think anyone will opine that charges shouldn't be brought because it would deter other families from reporting that their children are in need of rescue? I suspect that inane question hasn't crossed anyone's mind, except mine (and only to make a point). No one will be deterred from asking police for help when they need it for fear they won't be believed. Nor is there is any evidence that significant numbers of actual rape victims do not report being raped because they are fearful of not being believed. The difference between the Heene case (where no one would even think to make such an asinine assertion) and false rape claims (where that asinine assertion is made repeatedly) is that the latter have been gender politicized while the former has not. It is well to note that police do not charge rape accusers with making a false police report without actual evidence of falsity beyond the word of the falsely accused male (the exact reverse of rape charges -- where males are routinely charged based on nothing more than the word of the female).

If you want to see how false claims are handled for non-politicized crimes, watch the Heene case. It might just be a model for how false rape claims ought to be handled.

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

If false accusers get a free pass then there is no reason to go after these idiots. Women lie about rape all the time with impunity.

6p00d835312a0269e2 said...

Charges against these people will NOT harm society somehow. Just the opposite, when people see that false claims that steal vital resources from the public are prosecuted to the fullest extent, maybe fewer false claims will be made. It's vital in my opinion that, in criminal cases, there be no distinction between civilians and the cops. Truly aggressive prosecution of the liars involved will make people believe that they will be held responsible for the statements that they make. There are still defenders of the Duke accuser, which I find repugnant. If the same attitude prevailed with sexual harassment, then we'd be getting somewhere.

Anonymous said...

I saw the videos of the ballon being launched, and then flying through the air, and then landing.

Frankly, ANYONE who thought that thing was sufficient to lift anything more massive than a fieldmouse is not merely unfit for any kind of employment, they should be sterilised and removed from the gene pool.

AfOR

Anonymous said...

Great article.

You hit it dead on.

These people really hurt no one with their hoax and they want the most severe penalties.

But if a woman totally ruins a guy's life and puts him through hell or even prison....well no big deal.

Anonymous said...

Total hypocrisy. The entire modern feminist movement is nothing but one big hoax.

Anonymous said...

Notice how the media is hyping this after burying Hofstra, to make it look like men are the ones concocting bizarre lies?

Anonymous said...

What a brilliant title.

Good work.

Anonymous said...

I wish you had the power to have the article that you wrote on the front page of every newspaper tomorrow.

And be able to make a similar article for every time a false insurance claim is made.

This would show loud and clear the double standard that there is in this country.

And how we have made the rights of men nearly non existent.

Atom said...

One of you stated, "Women lie about rape all the time with impunity."

Because of statements like that, is it any wonder that most women do not report rape?

Also, if you are seriously using the Heene family hoax as an example of poor media prioritizing, then in addition to saying that false accusations are ignored, you should also include other crimes that the media ignores.

Anonymous said...

"most women do not report rape" but virtually all actual rape victims, and a hell of a lot of false rape accusers, report rape.

Anonymous said...

Liar!

Anonymous said...

How much do you want to bet whatever charges they file against this husband and wife....even thought they were both involved in this hoax that the wife will get one of two things.

1. NOTHING

2. WAY less than her husband.

Anonymous said...

That's a safe bet.

Atom said...

"IF" it's a hoax, it's a safe bet that the father is the dominant hoaxer in this case. If you'd spring for a TV, you'd know that.

Anonymous said...

What is the "dominant hoaxer," cunt?

Atom said...

Dominant, in this context, refers to the central figure. "Main" and "chief" are other words commonly used in lieu of "dominant".

You need to look up the definitions of commonly used words. That way you can communicate with other posters.

Anonymous said...

I think the dominant cunt in their relationship is responsible. When there is a hoax it's almost always because of a woman.

Anonymous said...

Do you have any other made-up terms for us, to blame everything on men and make excuses for women? "Dominant hoaxer" is a pretty cool one, so what else you got there, trolly?

Anonymous said...

Atom said...
" One of you stated, "Women lie about rape all the time with impunity."

Because of statements like that, is it any wonder that most women do not report rape? "

Most women do not report rape? With all of the goodies women get for reporting being raped (even falsely reporting being raped) and the harsh penalties reserved exclusively for men and boys, I find it hard to believe most women would not report being raped.


" Also, if you are seriously using the Heene family hoax as an example of poor media prioritizing, then in addition to saying that false accusations are ignored, you should also include other crimes that the media ignores. "

Such as violent assaults/murders committed by some women against men? How some women use the system and it's laws to commit crime(s) and harm to innocent men and boys?

Oct 18, 2009 10:04:00 PM

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...


"And how we have made the rights of men nearly non existent."

Oct 18, 2009 9:51:00 PM

You mean men had rights at one time? It must have been nice back then.

Anonymous said...

Our fathers and grandfathers had rights. Now we are just targets.

Don't you love "equality"?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

" Most women do not report rape? With all of the goodies women get for reporting being raped (even falsely reporting being raped) and the harsh penalties reserved exclusively for men and boys, I find it hard to believe most women would not report being raped. "

Of course the same stands true in regards to assaults of all types, real and/or imagined. There are some women who falsely accuse men and/or boys of assaults. When you consider some of the definitions of assaults (and what "passes" as proof of assault), it is FAR easier for a woman, or girl, to falsely accuse a man or boy of assaulting her and have their lives ruined as easy as it was/is to accuse a man and/or a boy of raping her.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Our fathers and grandfathers had rights. Now we are just targets.

Don't you love "equality"?

Oct 19, 2009 1:35:00 AM
True equality I do, not the barbed version that feminism/feminists has/have been forcing down my throat my whole life.

Anonymous said...

" How some women use the system and it's laws to commit crime(s) and harm to innocent men and boys? "

This should say; How some women use the system and it's laws to commit crimes against, and cause harm to, innocent men and boys.

SgtMom said...

Atom said...

One of you stated, "Women lie about rape all the time with impunity."

Because of statements like that, is it any wonder that most women do not report rape?


Atom, do you have any tangible proof that "most women" do not report rape?

How do you, personally, back up such a statement?

How do *I*, as a neutral seeker of truth, verify your contention that "most women don't report rape"?

Rumours, propaganda and myths aside - how can *I* embrace your statement with any conviction of truth?

SgtMom said...

6p00d835312a0269e2 said...

Charges against these people will NOT harm society somehow. Just the opposite, when people see that false claims that steal vital resources from the public are prosecuted to the fullest extent, maybe fewer false claims will be made.

This family should repay any and all costs incurred for the 'rescue' effort, if proven it was a hoax.

False rape accusers should at the very least repay all costs incurred for the investigations, incarceration, legal fees, wages lost, pain and suffering of the falsely accused.

20 days in jail and community service hardly covers the cost.

SgtMom said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish you had the power to have the article that you wrote on the front page of every newspaper tomorrow.

________

That's do-able. There are lists of hundreds of media outlets.

Send out a press release, see what happens.

Like sending a 6 year old up in a helium balloon - sooner or later someone will notice.

Anonymous said...

There are people here in Nashville,TN who think the boy and his dad should be burned alive at the stake after being extensively tortured and mutilated.

Anonymous said...

Oct 19, 2009 1:35:00 AM
True equality I do, not the barbed version that feminism/feminists has/have been forcing down my throat my whole life.

I feel that way, too. If they could come up with real equality then I probably wouldn't care about the other issues, although I'm also concerned about the lack of male leadership in the lives of young boys.

slwerner said...

Sgt Mom Asks - "Atom, do you have any tangible proof that "most women" do not report rape?"

You've got to be careful with her wording here. She isn't saying that most women who are raped don't report it (which we have no real way on knowing it it's true or not - I suspect NOT), she is simply stating that most women do not report that they've been raped.

Of course, there's a better chance than not that she HOPES one will conclude from this that the majority of rapes go unreported, yet the simple fact remains that the reason most women don't report being raped, is that they haven't been raped

You see, under feminist pseudo-logic, based on their firmly held (yet never verifiable) belief that 1 in 4 women will be raped in their lifetime, but only 1 in 100 women ever report a rape, they (being unable to think any more logically) conclude that this MUST be because a significant portion of women are choosing to not report when they've been raped.

The thought that women who don't ever report having been raped probably never have been raped is to complex for them to grasp.

But...

Getting back to the main point of the post - Brilliant! Just, brilliant!

Another excellent way to demonstrate that punishing false reporters has nothing at all with how those who will need help in the future might allow some vague notion that they might not be believed, cause them to decide not to report an actual emergency.

It IS the exact same preposterous illogic used by those who claim punishing (provable) false rape accusers would serve to deter real victims.

Anonymous said...

You've got to be careful with her wording here. She isn't saying that most women who are raped don't report it (which we have no real way on knowing it it's true or not - I suspect NOT), she is simply stating that most women do not report that they've been raped.

Huh???

slwerner said...

Anonymous - "Huh???"

To put it in a less convoluted form:

Most women will never report being rape.

The reason for this is that most women will never BE raped.

Atom/Georgia Girl is playing fast-n-loose with the point that most women will never report that they've been raped, making the back-handed suggestion that this actually means that many of those women not reporting that they've ever been raped are simply covering-up rapes that they've suffered due to shame.

If I tell you that I've never been mugged, it's because I have not been mugged. However, someone like Atom/GG could also make the suggestion that I have been mugged, but that I'm too ashamed to admit it.

From this, it could be extrapolated that either most people don't report being mugged because they haven't been; or, conversely that most people don't report being mugged because they're simply to ashamed to do so.

Now, if someone had as their agenda to proclaim that their was a hidden epidemic of muggings going on, it would be in their interest to claim that it is the shame of it happening to them, rather than lack of it having occurred that accounts for most people claiming that they haven't been mugged.