Sunday, September 6, 2009

When men are the victims, virtually no one cares

21 comments:

Norm said...

I've seen this a couple times before. A couple observations:

1) The dark-skinned lady in the pink top that they interviewed, 'you go girl', is a sick pig.

2) The cop is obviously a jerk, as are most cops. His attitude is typical, I'm surprised he didn't confront the guy being accosted. What he said when interviewed proves once and for all that cops are NOT 'just following order'/'hands are tied' in domestic abuse cases.

Norm said...

P.S.

the cop isn't necessarily supposed to call 911; even though he's off duty, he's supposed to show his badge and confront the woman.

Anonymous said...

'You go girl' says it all. That's how they react to false rape accusations, too.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why that incompetent cop still has a job. He isn't even ashamed to admit on national television that he's a bigot who allowed a crime in progress to continue?

Anonymous said...

His excuse: "That's the way I was raised."

Well sir, you might also have been raised to hate black people, but that doesn't mean that you can be a racist on the job; similarly you aren't allowed to act out your anti-male chivalrous prejudices because mommy and daddy taught you to let you sisters pound you until your face look like hamburger. You can let your wife treat you like that, but you still have a responsibility to enforce the law.

Pierce Harlan said...

I am asking myself what is going on here, and I don't think it's as simple as all women hate men, or all women elevate women over men. That's too simple, and it doesn't hold up in a lot of other aspects of life.

I am wondering how the women and the cop would react if a huge football player was attacking a normal sized guy and the latter was a clear underdog. My guess is it would have spurred the women to call the cops because of the obvious mismatch between the two combatants.

If even two normal sized guys were fighting, my guess if a lot of the women would have called the cops because someone might get hurt and even Officer Chivalry would have broken it up. That was my experience on the playground as a kid.

Are both men and women trained to view women as the automatic underdogs because of men's typical size and strength advantage?

Do most people assume that when a women reacts like this she's acting against type and that, therefore, there "must" have been a good reason for it?

We've all seen the old movies where the wife is chasing the husband with a rolling pin and nobody thinks the husband is in great danger. It was funny. But knowing what we know now about male injuries from dv, maybe it's not so funny.

I mean, looking at the two of them in this video, most people would think he could flatten her if he wanted -- or at least get away from her.

Bottom line: my guess is most people would think he's really not in danger in that situation. My guess is that what we are dealing with is a stereotype -- a stereotype that men have promulgated.

I mean, it now turns out that Saddam Hussein could have spared his country from attack if he hadn't coyly led the entire world to believe he was hiding WMDs. He couldn't flatly admit the truth (that he didn't have them) or he would have been weakened, he felt, in the Middle East.

Likewise, is our male macho front such that we've kind of indicated to the world that women aren't a threat to us?

Finally, doesn't this show that people need to be educated about the dv stats that show incredible numbers of men injured every year at the hands of the women they love? Isn't the lesson here that we need to break a gender stereotype?

I don't mean to suggest that I have all the answers. I know one thing: if the answer is that women are misandrists, I'd prefer that we shipped them all to an island somewhere.

Elusive Wapiti said...

Wow.

First, hats off to ABC and the female psychologist for telling it like it is. And hats off to that collection of women who finally grabbed a pair and called the police. Put all the men who passed by to shame.

The cop is a punk, who allows his own personal biases to apply the law in a manner discriminatory against his brothers. Norm nailed it in that attitudes like the his (the cop's) are the reason why men are jacked up more often in DV calls...because both men and women perceive a guy as a threat.

And the you-go-girl woman needs to get bitch-slapped herself. She's the worst out of all.

scott said...

WOW excellent piece!! Enabling and fostering womens uncontrolled violence, raises the overall level of societal violence.

Norm said...

@Pierce,

"Are both men and women trained to view women as the automatic underdogs because of men's typical size and strength advantage?

"Do most people assume that when a women reacts like this she's acting against type and that, therefore, there "must" have been a good reason for it?"

It seems self-evident, at least to me, that the anwer to both these questions is "yes." However, the former is mostly innate, whereas the latter is completely due to what some call 'socialization' - at its root, it is due to misandry having been spread so far, especially, in this case, by the media.

Also some guys are going to rag on me for saying this, but I think whoever made the video 'cheated' a little. Other than when the woman grabs the guy by his head, whereas it appears the man is actually about to choke the woman. I think the man/men did go a little further than the woman,if you consider the video in its totality.

Recommendation: instead of venting explosive anger at me, view the video again carefully and you will probably see what I mean. (not that anger isn't justified when it comes to these issues.)

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Anonymous said...

"When men are the victims, virtually no one cares"

I've been saying this for years.
Feminism is working well.

Because of safety concerns regarding one's liberty, asexuality is on its way to becoming the sexuality of choice for all heterosexual men.

Anonymous said...

Asexuality? Not likely.

I share the frustration over feminist indoctrination, but I have to tell it like it is -- the doomsday scenarios that are sometimes brought up on this blog, such as all heterosexual sex being made illegal, aren't going to happen.

Our justice system is terrible, but all men aren't going to suffer a dystopian fate.

Norm said...

"all men aren't going to suffer a dystopian fate."

If radical feminism is allowed to run its course unobstructed, that is exactly what will happen to men. Please see 'Legalizing Misandry', by Nathanson and Young, Ph.D.'s.

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Anonymous said...

With feminists, their enablers, their supporters, the media, the system, and most if not all of society, it is mind over matter. They don't mind the way things are N.O.W. because (to them) men do not matter.

Anonymous said...

"Asexuality? Not likely."

"I share the frustration over feminist indoctrination, but I have to tell it like it is -- the doomsday scenarios that are sometimes brought up on this blog, such as all heterosexual sex being made illegal, aren't going to happen."

Someone's head is buried in the sand.

Norm said...

Of course heterosexual sex won't outright be "made illegal". But the point is that if things keep going the way they are, that, or something close to it, will be the effective outcome.

Remember, some of the things we see that are in place now, would have been thought ridiculous only ten or even fewer years ago. And I'm sure when guys brought them up back then, they were shouted down by 'doomsday-debunkers' (or whatever.)

Anonymous said...

Amen, Norm.

Anonymous said...

If things continue to get worse, society will definitely pay a price, but that is a far cry from claiming that doomsday for men is on the horizon. Things can get a lot worse without most men even noticing.

For the sake of argument, let's say that there are 100,000 rape cases each year in the US (a very rough estimate), and that every single one of them is the result of a false accusation (an obvious exaggeration). That would mean that around 5% of men would be falsely charged with a sex crime at some point in his life -- with 95% never being charged.

Compare that to the number of men who die each year from smoking or heart disease.

This is not to belittle the importance of defending innocent men, of course, but to engage in hyperbole is foolish for a number of reasons. Men are at risk of being second class citizens with lesser rights than women across a range of issues but the vast majority of men will never be falsely charged with a crime.