Good news: the Hofstra false accuser likely will soon be charged.
Bad news: the Nassau County district attorney's office thinks it's perfectly acceptable to insult the intelligence of every Y-Chromosome-bearing human being. Here is the explanation as to why the false accuser hasn't been charged yet: "[Kathleen] Rice's spokesman Eric Phillips said the district attorney 'doesn't make snap judgments or let political expedience replace diligent fact-finding in investigations, so it's disturbing to hear that a candidate without the facts running for such a serious office would attempt to politicize and score political points on an issue like this.'"
Read it again; savor it; try not to spill your coffee all over the keyboard. The D.A. is exercising prudence and care in deciding to charge the young woman. Right. The same way they conducted "diligent fact-finding" and refused to make a "snap decision" in arresting four young men on the say-so of a lone female, without examining all the evidence and without waiting to see the video, right? Because if a teenage woman claims some males did something to her, that's enough to deprive them of their liberty, toss them into jail where they can be harassed and pushed around, without bothering to get to the bottom of it, right? And the D.A. didn't attempt to "score political points" on gender and race issues by immediately arresting the scary minority young men, did she?
If you're not fairly convinced that the false accuser lied, Ms. Rice, why the hell did you let the scary minority young men out of jail and drop the charges? Why are you allowing five possible rapists to roam the streets where they can harm other innocent young women?
The fact is, four young, innocent men were arrested, deprived of their liberty, and likely scarred for life on the basis of a rush to judgment, while a young woman that the D.A. knows likely lied and caused tremedous damage to four young men hasn't even been charged.
There is a legal expression for people like Kathleen Rice: "full of shit."
For anyone who wants to know what a rush to judgment looks like, make sure you watch this: http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2009/09/hofstra-false-rape-case-news-report.html
HERE IS THE NEWS STORY:
Official: Charges 'likely' for Hofstra false rape accuser
The woman who falsely accused four men of gang-raping her in a Hofstra University dormitory bathroom is "likely" to face charges this week, a law enforcement official said, as the case became fodder for Nassau District Attorney Kathleen Rice's election opponent.
The woman, an 18-year-old freshman who has not been identified by authorities, probably will be charged "within days," said the official, who spoke Sunday on condition of anonymity because the probe is ongoing.
Nassau police and the district attorney's office are awaiting "a few pieces of corroborating evidence," the official said.
The official would not elaborate on what charge the woman might face or what evidence investigators were awaiting.
News that an arrest was imminent came on the same day that the Republican and Conservative district attorney candidate, former Nassau prosecutor Joy Watson, criticized Democrat Rice's handling of the case.
Watson, who was in charge of sex-crime prosecutions under former District Attorney Denis Dillon, said Rice should have charged the young woman "immediately."
The woman told Nassau police that she was tied up and gang-raped about 3 a.m. Sept. 13 in a Hofstra University dormitory bathroom by five young men, authorities said. Four of the men, one of them a Hofstra student, were charged with rape in a case that gained nationwide attention.
The woman recanted Wednesday evening, after top prosecutors in Rice's office who were interviewing her told her that a cell-phone video of the incident might exist. At that time, the prosecutors did not have access to the video and did not know what it contained, but mention of its possible existence caused the woman to recant her story.
Lawyers for the accused men said the video showed the sexual acts were consensual. Charges against the men were dismissed late Wednesday night and they were released from jail.
Watson, in an interview Sunday, said: "A crime was committed, and there's no question who committed the crime. . . . I prosecuted cases in the past where we had false allegations made, and arrests were made immediately."
Rice's spokesman Eric Phillips said the district attorney "doesn't make snap judgments or let political expedience replace diligent fact-finding in investigations, so it's disturbing to hear that a candidate without the facts running for such a serious office would attempt to politicize and score political points on an issue like this."
While Rice has called the female student "a very troubled young woman in need of some help," Watson said decisions about "leniency" should be made "after charges have been brought."
Link: http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/official-charges-likely-for-hofstra-false-rape-accuser-1.1464479
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Oh my gentle jesus........must keep calm.
Still though, I suppose we ought to all thank our personal deities that this woman might be charged at all.
I hope she is. I hope they crucify her ass.
Been reading this blog for a few days and have enjoyed reading it. I have a question (slightly off-topic). I haven't read all your posts but have you blogged about the disparity in how women get sentenced for a crime as opposed to men. I'm speaking, specifically, about the way the law gives a slap on the wrist to female teachers engaging in sex with their students, and throws the book at male teachers. If you haven't (or don't) blog about such matters could you direct me to someone who voices their opinion on this? Thanks.
"[Kathleen] Rice's spokesman Eric Phillips said the district attorney 'doesn't make snap judgments or let political expedience replace diligent fact-finding in investigations, so it's disturbing to hear that a candidate without the facts running for such a serious office would attempt to politicize and score political points on an issue like this.'"
Just briefly, I'd make this observation: was it Rice who was the one who "rushed to judgment" and arrested the innocent men, and gave their names to the media? Or was it the police acting unilaterally. The speed with which they are arrested leads me to believe that the DA was not involved until afterwards.
that said, Rice IS showing her feminist stripes in dragging her feet in charging the liar. She has to know that her failure to do so WILL be a huge campaign issue, yet she remains reluctant to "pull the trigger" - hoping it will just "blow over", in my opinion.
Still, this is good that it WILL be a campaign issue. It will draw increased focus to the issue of false rape reporting (for reasons as dubious as saving one's tarnished reputation), and the very light punishments that false accusers face (if any at all).
Remember, in Rice's view, Danmell Ndonye is not just another typical collage-aged woman who (like so many others) jumped at a chance to cheat on her boyfriend, have a gang-bang in the john with strangers, then spin a web of lies to try to cover it up from her boyfriend - no, she's a troubled young woman.
BS! She's the all too typical slut (see the story about the slut at the University of Arkansas who behaved similarly with basketball player) who doesn't give a crap about the effect her self-serving, self-preserving lies will have. She wasn't even going to admit what she'd really done until the video evidence forced her to (perhaps in Amanda Hess's eyes, she was mentally raped by the patriarchal rape-culture into admitting she hadn't been raped?).
She deserves NO sympathy, and NO special consideration. She needs to be charged, and charged to the maximum extent that she can be. If she is not, let's hope Kathleen Rice's defeat in the upcoming DA race (fueled by the issue of her failure to go after criminals) will send a strong message to other would be false rape apologists in the ranks of the prosecutors.
Anon at 11:00: thanks for reading. You raise an important subject that I wish we could deal with. It's a tad off topic, (the only time we deal with women teachers raping students is where the woman turns around and accuses her victim of raping her -- that's not uncommon, a boy being twice victimized by his own rapist: once when he's raped, and then again when she falsely accuses him of rape).
Our friends over at Glenn Sacks' Blog
deal with the sentencing disparity, as do some other men's rights blogs.
Here are two sites with alleged predator teacher lists -- I can't vouch for their accuracy:
Women Predators List
The dishonor role
As for the sentencing disparity, my own belief -- and this is going to sound crude and sexist -- is that judges assume the boys "want" it while the girls really don't, the girls are more like passive victims, enthralled by a grown man's charms, or some such nonsense. Moreover, female teachers are not seen as predatory, just mixed up and immature. Recent studies show girls AND boys suffer long-term problems from statutory rape, and that should be the test for sentencing, not the so-called purity of the predator. The judges haven't heard that yet, I suppose. Thus, even when males are the victims they are deemed to be the predators. Sigh.
Issues regarding the criminal's background are properly considered at sentencing. Her situation should garner no more consideration at sentencing than a similarly situated young rapist's.
This is just my opinion, but this whole "slut" argument is out of place in this argument. This girl wasn't covering up for being a slut but for cheating on her boyfriend.
And yes, I know a lot of girls cry "rape" to protect their reputations. Girls are shamed for being promiscuous, even today. But, you know, there are some pretty good reasons for that. As much as some MRA's complain about child support, etc., girls have a lot to lose if they get pregnant, and if they don't want to have an abortion for religious reasons. There are good reasons for discouraging girls from getting pregnant, and a lot of that shaming stems from that. Is it fair if boys aren't similarly shamed? No, but is it fair that boys have been cannon fodder in every war ever fought while girls haven't? No. It's a manifestation of physical differences. Blame Mother Nature, not some artificial social construct, not patriarchy, not male privilege. Girls have babies and boys don't. Period.
All of the hand-wringing over this issue blinks at common sense.
Kathleen Rice has aleady made two snap judgments: 1 - arrested four innocent young men and 2 - treating this false accuser differently than she would any other criminal by calling her "in need of help."
Can you imagine her arrested those men and then saying that "they obviously need some help?"
This is just my opinion, but this whole "slut" argument is out of place in this argument. This girl wasn't covering up for being a slut but for cheating on her boyfriend.
And yes, I know a lot of girls cry "rape" to protect their reputations. Girls are shamed for being promiscuous, even today. But, you know, there are some pretty good reasons for that.
All of the hand-wringing over this issue blinks at common sense.
With all due respect, Pierce, I think you may have fallen into that a little bit, yourself. It almost looks like you have fallen for the "rape culture" obfuscation.
Let's grab Occam's Razor and slice this a bit thinner, eh?
Who did Danmell Ndonye lie to first? Answer: her boyfriend. Then, in a perfect real-life example of "what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive", it was her boyfriend who insisted taking it to the next step and reporting it to the police. At that point, Danmell Ndonye was trapped in her lie. (the lame stream media won't get her name out there, but that doesn't stop us.)
Now, isn't there another possible explanation for why this young woman didn't want to be honest with her boyfriend and say "well, I'm late because I just gone done in the bathroom by 5 hot guys" other than this mythical "rape culture" or "slut shaming"?
Turn this around. If a man had just gotten done by 5 hot chicks, how would most people expect his girlfriend to react? (Insert video of nuclear blast of Hiroshima here.)
People of both sexes tend to take a pretty dim view of their partner cheating on them, and tend to react very negatively. This woman was cheating, and got caught, and tried to lie her way out of it. But, her lie took on a life of its own that may end up doing as much damage to her now that it has been discovered to be a lie as it did to those young men before her lie was exposed.(thank god one more time for video)
We don't need to veer off into hand-wringing and stupid arguments about "rape culture" and "slut shaming" to explain two simple actions - cheating and lying.
The woman is a cheater and a liar. It's that simple. Once caught, she threw a convenient male under the bus to cover up her cheating and lying, just as Jeana would have.
This is modern womanhood. Notice how most of the women here will line up to defend to the death and make excuses for her cheating and lying, or to confuse the issue so that we lose track of it.
Just keep coming back to the fact that they are liars and cheaters and support each other's right to lie and cheat, and the whole issue is pretty simple. The female DA is just acting like any good member of the sisterhood and covering for the ho.
1 - "Rape culture" doesn't exist and never has; this is just an extension of the old "men are all rapists" canard.
2 - "Slut shaming" used to exist but doesn't any more, unless you're the Octomom; and even then it doesn't amount to much.
Concerning religious girls who get knocked up but don't want an abortion -- the solution to that is to follow your religion when it comes to keeping your knees together. At least women have a choice about whether or not to get an abortion; men get no choice in the matter and are forced to subsidize whatever her whims tell her to do.
Concerning Danmell Ndonye, I think that this crime was motivated by her narcissistic need to manipulate people and get attention. If they dig through her background they'll probably find that she has already done something similar to this.
I'm really sorry guys, but there's no such thing as 'rape culture'. That is a figment of the feminist imagination; it is a politicization of the behavior of individuals, and is designed to further the spread of misandry. In that respect, it is pretty much like the 'patriarchy'. It hinges on ideas like "1 in 4 women have been raped by the time they're 30".
Pierce, thanks for the links!
And I completely agree with this:
As for the sentencing disparity, my own belief -- and this is going to sound crude and sexist -- is that judges assume the boys "want" it while the girls really don't, the girls are more like passive victims, enthralled by a grown man's charms, or some such nonsense. Moreover, female teachers are not seen as predatory, just mixed up and immature. Recent studies show girls AND boys suffer long-term problems from statutory rape, and that should be the test for sentencing, not the so-called purity of the predator. The judges haven't heard that yet, I suppose. Thus, even when males are the victims they are deemed to be the predators. Sigh.
There seems to be some description of Ndonye as a gifted student with a clean past. No suggestion of mental imbalance anywhere (as yet...).
Don't know about your part of the woods, but where I come from bright girls are celebrated as if they are all about to take their place amongst the gods, and that Einstein and Newton had better move aside now that the real thing is about to show both of them up as second-rate. They are little Aryans of the first order, even if they aren't blond and blue-eyed.
Ndonye fits the mold to a tee. First she calls a few boys into the bathroom for her own carnal pleasure, then she disposes of them like garbage in order to deceive another.
'Troubled' isn't quite the right word (though wouldn't it describe anyone who's about to get sent down for a serious crime?). How about sociopathic - the principal characteristic of which being an inability to empathize with others.
If she isn't to blame entirely for her own actions, maybe there is a little wriggle room for pointing the finger at others - namely, all those femi-fascists that have created this climate of the master gender, and the disposable, worthless slave gender that it is the destiny of women to direct.
For a lot of them, right now they'll be wondering whatever all the fuss could be about- these young men are only male after all.
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