In response to a link to False Rape Society on social news network Reddit, a reader said this: "it'll be pretty sad when the men that are falsely accused of rape reaches 10% of the amount of guys who commit rape who never get charged for anything. when false rape claims get to 10% of real rape non-claims i'll start to become interested."
Did you get that?
Read it again to capture the full flavor. This comment manifests nothing less than contempt for countless false rape victims -- many of whom suffer greatly by having been falsely accused -- by stating that the reader isn't even "interested" in their victimization, and that he or she is not "sad" about it, because for reasons the reader doesn't bother to explain, he or she assumes that false rape claims are rare compared to rape claims.
It is difficult to know where to begin to respond to this worldview. We can be fairly certain that nothing we say will change his or her mind.
Two obvious points need to be stated: first, the reader's assertion is, of course, akin to saying that he has no sympathy for victims of a rare disease because it is not as prevalent as another disease. (I think readers of this blog can imagine how seriously I take someone who makes such utterly hateful and inane assertions.) As we have frequently noted, the mere allegation of rape by any female, without any other evidence and no matter how far-fetched, invites a man's name to be splashed all over the newspaper, TV, radio and Internet for the world to titillate at the details of his humiliation. Men and boys falsely accused of this vile crime have been beaten and killed and have killed themselves; they've been fired from their jobs and lost their businesses; they've lost their wives, their girlfriends and their long-time friends. Rarely do they ever come out of it whole, and for many, the ghost of a false rape claim trails them for the rest of their lives. In contrast, the accuser retains lifelong anonymity, either by law (UK) or, among news outlets, as a courtesy and bow to political forces that insist on it (US).
Second, the comment is premised on a fact that the reader does not support because he or she cannot support it.
I can support my position. I do it constantly, as readers of this website know. I invite this misguided reader to dive into the section on the right of my website called "False Rape Claims Primer," starting with Professor Kanin's report.
In case you are looking for the hateful diatribe on Reddit, I've deleted it -- I can better monitor comments that slander the falsely accused on this site.
And by the way, the writer claims to be "a guy."
Heaven help our gender when we can hate one another like this!
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A guy wrote that? This is really fucked up.
As someone who was falsely accused, I'd like to exhibit some chivalry that dudes like that are known for, and punch him in the mouth. I won't, of course. But he'd deserve it.
Nothing will stop the rape hysteria mob..accept the truth.
The truth is being hidden from the public because of the current gender feminist / law enforcement misinformation Alliance.
The law enforcement community is engaging in the manufacture, and dissemination of faulty and inflammatory misinformation..WHICH IS AN ACTIVITY THAT THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT SPECIFY THEY CAN ENGAGE IN.
Scott, as the victim of a false rape claim, how do you feel when someone makes a comment like this guy?
This is the prevalent mindset; it is far from being some random nut.
Its sad but there are alot of men out there like that.
In so many ways men are man's worst enemy.
LITERALLY he is saying "It is better that 10 INNOCENT Men get punished than 1 GUILTY go free".
Opposite of the Blackstone Law.
(This is because "he" won't care until there are 10 Innoncents being prosecuted and PERSECUTED to ensure the last one that did it doesn't get away.)
At least, I thought so at first, I think "he" meant something else now, but it's actually hard to read.
Also, what's with the undefinable standards? Every "real" rape that gets away? You can't see everyone that "gets away", and even worse you're going to enact a standard that presumes guilt. Is there a set 1000 rapes per year per state, and if they get 800 they missed 200 people so they need to sound the witch-hunting bell again? Who DECIDES this stuff? You know what, I think I already know.
Im a current victim of a malicious and false claim, I'd like to sit this "guy" down with me for a few hours and tell him a few home truths.
There is a line from "Unforgiven" about when you kill a man you take everything he is, and everything he ever was.
False rape claims do that too, but without anaesthetic, you get to stay breathing and experiencing your whole life (and extended family) being smeared in someone else's shit.
anon for obviosu reasons
"when false rape claims get to 10% of real rape non-claims i'll start to become interested."
Seems like a version of the logic that single-issue Glenn Sack's poster Georgia Girl has long spewed - basically, it's somehow "wrong" to discuss the issue of false rape allegations (and their attendant harms) until such time as all actual rapes of women by men have been eliminated.
The reality is that it is two different issues. The issue of rape, it's harm, and the need for prevention and punishment; and the issue of false rape claims, their harm, and the need for prevention and punishment.
It's not as if by seeking to prevent and punish the crime of murder (for example/and other crime would fit as well), and discussing the harms done by that crime, that the crime of rape is in any way neglected.
There is no "zero sum game" to crime prevention and punishment. Budgets may be limited, but crimes are addressed as needed. investigating a murder does not mean that a rape case will be dropped.
The same holds true for addressing the crime of false rape reporting. Taking prudent measures to prevent and punish that crime has no bearing on the separate and distinct crime of rape.
To follow up on the logic of the author of the remarks (which started this thread), and the (il)logic long touted by Georgia Girl, perhaps authorities should stop investigating and punishing people who lie about having had their cars stolen (as part of insurance scams) until such time as all real car thefts can be prevented. It’s the same basic logic, is it not?
I tried to look for the offending comment on the Reddit board, but it's quite a disorganized array. Perhaps you could post a link to either than specific comment, or to the thread of which it was a part?
I was hoping to see how others had responded directly to that post.
"Glenn Sack's poster Georgia Girl "
she is seeking therapy for her supposed rape, which happened something like 40 years ago, by posting on a men's board and stirring up shit. I know it's hard, but the best course of action is to ignore her, and jeana. Then eventually when they get no responses, they'll go away.
p.s. Lisa is some kind of nut. I don't think there's a way to get rid of her.
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