Monday, August 31, 2009

Brilliant article destroys claim that shooting of three Pittsburgh women is symptomatic of societal misogyny

". . . the reaction from some corners of the web, and at least from several sections of the city, seemed to me tantamount to suggesting that George Sodini’s rampage would have been more palatable, or at least somehow less objectionable, if he’d just stopped to shoot a couple of men too."

Aren't we all more than a little fed up with painfully dishonest gynocentrism that manufactures misogyny oozing from every crevice? This is a must read piece from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's site about the recent shooting of three women in Western Pennsylvania. Predictably, the sexual grievance industry jumped on the incident as supposed "proof" of the hatred of women in our culture, but the piece destroys that claim. I won't even try to summarize it -- it is too well written for me to do that.

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

George Sodini was an utter piece of shit who committed mass murder because he couldn't get laid. He was a shallow, narcissistic piece of garbage and a disgrace.

And no, his actions are not representative of any widespread hatred towards women -- although obviously the loss of societal and family structure that has taken place over the past few decades may have played a role in his pathology.

There is no excuse for this man whatsoever, and once again I have nothing but sympathy for his victims. This act of violence was pathetic and contemptible.

Anonymous said...

Excellent piece.

Anonymous said...

ANON says

"although obviously the loss of societal and family structure that has taken place over the past few decades may have played a role in his pathology."

Agreed!!

Anonymous said...

From 1976-2005...

76.5% of all homicide victims were men;
23.5% were women.

63.3% of all victims in multiple homicides were men;
36.7% were women.

Or, if you want to expand the scariness outside the realm of just murder and consider victimization rates for all violent crimes (homicide, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, simple assault) taken together, consider the numbers from the U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics’ most recent comprehensive study on the subject:

From 1973-2005...

63% of all victims of violent crime were men;
37% were women.

Most victims of violent crime are men yet, we still have to fund the sexist and unconstitutional crime bill known as VAWA?

Anonymous said...

What if this were a woman that targeted a men's fitness culb and killed all of the men there? I bet she would be labeled as the "victim of a patriatchal conspiray" and awarded a medal for "honor killing".

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Excellent piece.

I agree, an excellent piece.

gwallan said...

Anonymous said...

What if this were a woman that targeted a men's fitness culb and killed all of the men there? I bet she would be labeled as the "victim of a patriatchal conspiray" and awarded a medal for "honor killing".

Close...

Killer given domestic violence award

Claimed domestic violence I would suggest. Bet it wasn't coroborated.

The word "alleged" does actually appear once.

Anonymous said...

Good one, Gwallan.

Renee said...

That was a pretty good thought-provoking article. I admit that while there are some forms of misogyny that still exists today, I wouldn't necessarily say that it is widespread, or how you put it, oozing from every crevice.

I remember a recent New York Times article written by Bob Herbert connecting the shooting to misogyny. These parts stand out because the article you posted tackles these exact parts:

We’ve seen this tragic ritual so often that it has the feel of a formula. A guy is filled with a seething rage toward women and has easy access to guns. The result: mass slaughter.

Back in the fall of 2006, a fiend invaded an Amish schoolhouse in rural Pennsylvania, separated the girls from the boys, and then shot 10 of the girls, killing five.

I wrote, at the time, that there would have been thunderous outrage if someone had separated potential victims by race or religion and then shot, say, only the blacks, or only the whites, or only the Jews. But if you shoot only the girls or only the women — not so much of an uproar.


Just curious, have there been any shootings in which the shooter specifically went after males besides the one mentioned in the article?

Porky said...

About a week ago a Brazilian girl confessed to killing 30 people - all of them men, which of course raises the possibility of hate crime - and she has since completely disappeared from the Brazilian websites. Chances are there is already a female Sodini out there, we just arent being told about her, in the same way we are rarely told about Brenda Spencer or Mary Bell or Helen Moore.No idea who they are? That's my point.

Anonymous said...

Sure sounds like hate crime to me, not that the feminist whiners care.

Renee said...

Porky and Anon,

If you consider those crimes hate crimes, then what's stopping someone else from saying that what Sodini did was a hate crime?

Anonymous said...

Renee said...
Porky and Anon,

If you consider those crimes hate crimes, then what's stopping someone else from saying that what Sodini did was a hate crime?

Sodini was labelled as a misogynist, which,IMHO, labelled what he did as a hate crime.

Anonymous said...

Nothing is stopping anyone from calling Sodini a hate criminal. Did we ever say that he wasn't one?

Porky said...

Like the others said, nobody is saying he didn't commit a hate crime, personally i thinks its obvious that he did, but if the sexes had been reversed chances are nobody except MRAs would be calling it a hate crime.

Norm said...

Remember Aileen Wournos? Certainly her killing spree should have qualified as a hate crime. Although she was executed anyway.

Norm said...

"what's stopping someone else from saying that what Sodini did was a hate crime?"

This is a MEN'S site, stupid. It's not on our agenda to seek out misogynists. If that bothers you please go elsewhere.

Come to think of it, go elsewhere anyway.

gwallan said...

Renee asked...
Just curious, have there been any shootings in which the shooter specifically went after males besides the one mentioned in the article?

I'm sure you could find numerous instances where only men were targets.

However I would throw into this mix just about every war that ever occured.

Maybe "women and children first" yields the same outcome? Only men targeted for death.

During your lifetime, Renee, the western media has bemoaned the fate of raped and displaced women in war torn areas but never told you about the men and boys undergound with holes in their heads. It's a shameful inadequacy of western culture that we must erase male suffering from view.

Maybe you could enlighten yourself by reading some of Adam Smith's work. His Effacing the Male is a particularly acute examination of the western media's portrayal of the genders.

gwallan said...

Edit,

Don't know why I called him "Smith".

It's "Jones" damnit!

Professor Adam Jones

Serious expert on genocide both historic and current.

gwallan said...

Ah, that's right. Adam Jones was an economist centuries ago. Economic rationalism circa 16th century.

gwallan said...

Adam Smith sorry!

Shit!

See what I mean.

Archivist said...

Renee, here is something the Womyn's Studies profs won't teach you: dictators throughout history have rounded innocent men and boys from families where the father opposed the regime (I heard of a case yesterday in Cuba where a family refused to give Castro et al their farm, so the males were rounded up) and then they killed them, often after torturing them in ghastly ways in front of the females of the family. This has been routine throughout history. How many victims of such atrocities have there been throughout history -- singled out because they were male? Millions, more likely billions. It was and is considered the price of being male, and no one questions why the females aren't executed, too. (Now if a village of innocent males is wiped out and some of the females are raped, the UN will sponsor a study to end rape and othrer crimes against women in wartime.)

And please don't try to tell me that these dictators are different than serial killers.

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