Clifford Martin, 19, is heading to prison for accepting the word of two teenage girls that one of them had been sexually assaulted by another 19-year-old man named Cory Headen. Mr. Martin broke into Mr. Headen's home and beat him to death while he was sleeping.
Mr. Headen was, in fact, innocent. He never raped anyone.
At sentencing, the judge wondered why Martin had accepted the girls' words without question.
Because that's what people do, Judge. I ask the same question the judge asked every day. But the fact is, we are constantly told to accept the word of a rape accuser. Our colleges and sexual assault centers preach that women don't lie about rape. Period. The sexual grievance industry, which has enormous political clout, insists that people take the word of a rape accuser without question. Is it so unusual, with that lie drummed into us constantly, that things like this happen? Hot blooded young men have always reacted emotionally to claims of rape. They have always been protective of women and girls above all others. Rape is the worst crime aside from murder, we are told. Why on earth shouldn't we expect a reaction like this to a rape claim?
This terrible tragedy only underscores that the only appropriate course is to teach people to regard every claim of rape with objectivity and that, yes, a significant percentage of women do lie about rape.
The question the story doesn't answer is this: what about the young liars? Did they report their lies to police? Two males have had their lives destroyed as a result of their false rape claim. If they reported their lies to police, they should serve at least as much jail time as the young man who was sentenced.
This case also underscores the tragic truth that once unleashed, a rape lie can destroy lives with a stunning, tragic completeness. Men and boys falsely accused of rape have been beaten, have been fired from their jobs, have seen their businesses destroyed, and have lost their wives and girlfriends. And, yes, some are killed and even kill themselves.
In a most tragic sense, Cory Headen paid the ultimate price just for being born male.
Courtenay man gets 7 years for vigilante killing
A 19-year-old man from Courtenay, B.C., has been sentenced to seven years in prison for a vigilante killing sparked by a false allegation of rape.
Clifford Frederic Martin pleaded guilty to manslaughter after he admitted to beating 19-year-old Cory Headen in the head with a baseball bat as he lay sleeping in his bed.
The incident began last September when a 13-year-old girl and her friend told Martin and his girlfriend that Headen had sexually assaulted her while the two were drinking with some other young people at Headen's home.
Martin broke into Headen's home that night with the girl and his girlfriend and struck Headen three times in the head and torso with an aluminum baseball bat as he lay sleeping in his bed.
Headen was rushed to hospital in critical condition and later died of his injuries. The girl's allegation of rape was later proven untrue.
'Stupid, drunken, immature girls'
In delivering the sentence, Provincial Court Judge Peter Doherty described the teens who accused Headen of rape as "stupid, drunken, immature girls" who delivered a vile message.
Doherty wondered why Martin had accepted their words without question.
The judge imposed a lesser sentence than the nine years requested by the Crown because Martin had no criminal record, co-operated with police and apologized to the victim's family in court.
Outside the court, Martin's lawyer, Robert Mulligan, described the crime as a mistaken judgment that led to a tragedy but said his client's chances for rehabilitation were good since Martin has no criminal record and was truly remorseful for what he did.
Martin's girlfriend, Janelle Peyachew, still faces charges of break and enter, mischief and accessory after the fact to murder. She is due in court on Aug. 26.
Link: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/08/25/bc-vigillante-killing-courtenay-clinton-fredrick-martin.html?ref=rss
Wednesday, August 26, 2009
The awful price of a false rape claim: one man dead, one going to prison for 7 years
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I do love how it's the girls' fault that this man decided to commit murder. Men are never accountable for ANYTHING, are they.
"I do love how it's the girls' fault that this man decided to commit murder. Men are never accountable for ANYTHING, are they."
The killer needs to pay the price for the murder. The girls should pay just as heavy a price for their false rape claim.
False rape claims have consequences. The mere fact that the girls didn't beat the young man themselves doesn't mean they bear no responsibility for the lies they unleashed. False rape claims cause enormous damage. This in no manner excuses the killer -- he needs to be punished, and seven years sounds right. But his act doesn't wipe away the terrible thing these girls did.
It would be nice if we lived in a world where false rape claims could be viewed calmly and objectively. They can't. The imaginary rape culture we live in demonizes males and exaggerates the prevalence of rape to the point that a rape claim is nothing short of a powder keg. Reactions like this to false rape claims are extremely common, far more common than most people think. When a thing is factually foreseeable, as was this sort of reaction to a false rape claim, the actor needs to be help legally accountable.
But then again, people generally want no responsibility for what they do nowadays. By the angry tone of your comment, it seems it would be OK if I lied to you that a man raped your daughter and if you reacted by striking the man, perhaps accidentally killing him, it's perfectly OK for me to just walk away chortling to myself, without responsibility for the harm I've helped cause, right?
The better question is, why do YOU excuse false rape accusers who cause such terrible damage to innocent people?
I do love how it's the girls' fault that this man decided to commit murder. Men are never accountable for ANYTHING, are they.
7 years of accountability actually. It would help if you would read the whole article.
The fact is, these girls are directly responsible for the death of this young man, due to thier lies. They had full control, from the beginning, to keep this from happening.
1. Don't tell the lie to begin with, and everyone is fine.
2. After claiming to have been raped, when they saw what was happening, tell the truth, and everyone is fine.
What it all boils down to, is that those 2 girls were solely responsible for the lie that led up to this young man dieing. PERIOD!
At sentencing, the judge wondered why Martin had accepted the girls' words without question.
Because that's what people do, Judge.
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This. Lots and lots of this.
"This. Lots and lots of this."
Os it me, or does anybody understand what's going on here today? Sorry, I don't get it.
I do love how it's the girls' fault that this man decided to commit murder.
YES MORON, IT IS THEIR FAULT! HORRIBLE LIES PRODUCE HORRIBLE CONSEQUENCES.
And yes, the men are responsible, and they will pay! But will the girls pay, or will they get a free lunch? I know where I'd place my bet!
"This. Lots and lots of this" refers to THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO, JUDGE.
Did the girls report their rape accusation to the police? If not, then why should they be charged with anything? The murderer had free will and decided to kill. The real lesson is not to be a hothead. The girls are stupid and will have the rest of their lives to live with the fact that their lies led to someone dying. But the guy who killed is the one ultimately responsible. No one made him kill. He chose to kill.
When the young man emerged from the victim's house with a blood soaked bat, Jeana and the two little girls were standing there laughing about it.
You go, girlfriend!
And fucking Jeana probably told the girls, "Look at the hot head! He beat that other kid to death! Well, that's two males out of the way, girls!"
JEANA, GET OUT OF HERE.
P.S. If you'd read my post carefully, I specifically noted "if" they reported to police.
Anon, please no name calling. If you use the "f" word, you need to apologize for talking like a radical feminist.
If they caused his death then they can be charged with a crime; no police report required.
Why WOULDN'T they be charged?
Reporting to police is a crime, but so is causing a public panic.
I do agree that the young killer wildly overreacted. This is not The Old West. But rape claims have that sort of effect on men. I am assuming Jeana is not objecting to the young man's anger over the claim, but that it was misdirected? I mean, you wouldn't be one of these out banging pots and calling for the falsely accused's castration, would you? I mean, nobody does that sort of thing, do they?
Rape hysteria causes a klan type lynching reaction in guys who hear a girls been raped.
One way to diffuse the klan type mob reaction would be with the truth that now false rape accusations
are around 50% of the time or more. But gender feminists love the power they get from keeping society in a state of rape hysteria.
Jeanna, you are sick, and twisted to try and excuse this girl from causing the brutal murder of a young man.
You're sick!!!
The gender feminist / law enforcement misinformation alliance is also to blame for this young mans death.
If society found out how many false rape acussations there are, compared to how many real rapes there were, IT WOULD DIFFUSE THE KLAN LYNCH MENTALITY!!
The gender feminist / law enforcement misinformation ALLIANCE is a perversion, and a stain on the American constitution.
Jeanna doesn't want to kill all males, she wants to feed like a hog at the trough on their labor.
The problem with getting rid of people like jeana is not easy, not when they'll just re-register with a new name and start all over.
The best deterrent is for all REAL supporters of this website to completely IGNORE posts from people like this. DO NOT respond to ANY of their posts, that's what they want.
7 years? That seems awfully light for premeditated murder.
Why are you guys jumping down Jeana's throat? She never said she was all for what happened or that false accusations are ok. In fact what happened was absolutely horrible and tragic. She just asked should they be charged with anything if they didn't report it to the police (no documented proof I guess).
Archivist said this himself:
If they reported their lies to police, they should serve at least as much jail time as the young man who was sentenced.
So what's with the overreaction?
Archivist,
When the young man emerged from the victim's house with a blood soaked bat, Jeana and the two little girls were standing there laughing about it.
I love how saying this about her is ok but just saying the "f" word isn't. And why is saying that particular word "talking like a feminist" lol? A number of people, men and women, talk like that.
Renee, Renee, Renee, my answer to you is, don't become like Jeana.
I wish I knew what I said that arouses such hate. Obviously those 2 girls were wrong and stupid. But there's a difference between them saying they were raped and a guy running to beat the guy and a woman having consensual sex and then crying rape when her husband walks in and her husband beating or killing the guy because he believes she is in immediate danger.
The guy tried to defend the girls, and that was very nice of him, but he went way overboard. I am not excusing the girls at all.
Jeanna..you are a callous women.
Esther Vilar in her bestseller "The Manipulated man"...says women are much more callous then men are..and it is the perversion on the modern male that thinks otherwise.
The girl should be charged with the same crime the boy got for killing the other boy. Anything else is a perversion of justice!!!
Society can't keep telling boys that women/ girls NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, lie about being raped...and then charge boys for acting on that misinformation!!
I need to repeat that!!!
Society can't keep telling boys that women/ girls NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, lie about being raped...and then charge boys for acting on that misinformation!!
I agree that we should ignore Renee and jeana.
Society can't keep telling boys that women/ girls NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, lie about being raped...and then charge boys for acting on that misinformation!!
Society can't keep telling boys that women/ girls NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, lie about being raped...and then charge boys for acting on that misinformation!!
Society can't keep telling boys that women/ girls NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, lie about being raped...and then charge boys for acting on that misinformation!!
Society can't keep telling boys that women/ girls NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, lie about being raped...and then charge boys for acting on that misinformation!!
Society can't keep telling boys that women/ girls NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, lie about being raped...and then charge boys for acting on that misinformation!!
I agree!!
Society can't keep telling boys that women/ girls NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, lie about being raped...and then charge boys for acting on that misinformation!!
Ignoring Jeana will never work. The only way to deal with her idiocy is to ban her.
Renee actually makes some fairly intelligent arguments, but Jeana will never contribute anything to the blog. She is posting for attention, period.
Wait, I thought women / girls NEVER, EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER lied about getting raped!
And don't women /girls NEVER, EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER lie about getting raped????
People have asked me why I get so angry with jeana.
Because they are so rarely held responsible for the consequences of their actions many women seem incapable of associating action with consequence.
jeana eptomises this failing.
anon,
based on my experience with jeana on another board, she is not just here to get attention, but she is mainly a troll who likes to try and wreak havoc with MR boards by making fantastical claims, being overly argumentative and obnoxious, sidelining discussions, etc. That is why it's better to ignore her.
Norm,
Which “fantastical claims” did I make? How am I “being overly argumentative and obnoxious, sidelining discussions, etc.”?
No, I just like to stop you MRAs when you constantly moan about how men have no responsibilities to act like decent human beings and instead blame all their failings on women. [The murderer in this story is a “victim” to you all, isn’t he? Completely blameless and, I’m betting, you think he shouldn’t have gotten any jail time, right?] If you bothered reading what I actually wrote, you’d find nothing objectionable.
If you CHOOSE to murder someone, then you should go to jail. If it were my son who was murdered, I’d want the guy who beat him to death to be executed. If you act on sketchy evidence, you take the consequences. Good advice for the murderer would be to try using his brain and thinking instead of just reacting like an animal.
Gwallan,
I already said that the girls were wrong. But I don’t think what they did rises to a criminal act that should be punishable by law. The girls didn’t make him murder. He chose to murder. He should have gone to the police. But he chose to take the law in his own hands. He’s lucky he only got 7 years. He deserved more.
Moron feminist troll. "Lying about a man so he'll get killed like, isn't a crime!"
Just ban her.
Your emotions have overtaken your ability to think clearly.
The comments are overwhelmingly in favor of punishing the girls because they lied.
What if they had NOT lied? The victim would still be dead, so with your logic, the girls are responsible even if they "had" been raped.
Regardless of the circimstances, in your opinion the girls are at fault, lie or no lie.
Anon-Thurs
Oh no, they wouldn't be responsible if they had told the truth. They are only responsible because of the lie.
What logic did you use to arrive at the conclusion that "according to you, they would still be guilty even if they were telling the truth!"? That doesn't follow at all.
Conspiracy to commit murder doesn't require 100% involvement, you know. If you're involved just a little bit in causing a murder you can still be convicted. So for those ladies who are thinking about telling their violent boyfriend that they were raped in order to get somebody hurt should think twice.
"Conspiracy to commit murder doesn't require 100% involvement, you know. If you're involved just a little bit in causing a murder you can still be convicted. So for those ladies who are thinking about telling their violent boyfriend that they were raped in order to get somebody hurt should think twice."
scott says.. well said!!!
I will add...
Justice will come,and these girls will get their prison sentence... when women/girls are treated as equals to men.
jeanna says
"I already said that the girls were wrong. But I don’t think what they did rises to a criminal act that should be punishable by law."
I say..jeanna you are sick callous pig...a young boy was beat to death with a bat in his sleep.. What if it was you're son you sick little pig!!
jeanna says
"I already said that the girls were wrong. But I don’t think what they did rises to a criminal act that should be punishable by law."
I say..jeanna you are sick callous pig...a young boy was beat to death with a bat in his sleep.. What if it was you're son you sick little pig!!
jeanna..A young boy was beat to death in his sleep with a bat...you are a callous pig, and may you're filthy soul rot in hell for saying ..."what she did ISN"T SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH...for any criminal charges!!"
YOU SICK CALLOUS PIG!!!
May the boy who was beat to death with a bat,in his sleep, over another false rape accusation Rest in peace!!
You people are completely irrational. Because I disagree that the girls did anything criminally wrong--and even though I said that they were very wrong--you want me to rot in hell. Should I say, "Oh, the poor murderer, I feel so sorry for him! He just beat someone to death! Not such a big deal." Get a clue. And take some responsibility for your actions, will you?
Fuck off.
Jeanna..you are the epitome of the modern callous matriarchy..you callous pig!!
A young boy was beat to death with a bat in his sleep over a false rape acussation...and you say >>NO CRIME HERE..
I think you are sick callous pig!!
The imbecile obviously just wants attention. Nobody is this stupid by accident.
"Just ban her"
I'm not sure you can do this on blogger, at least not by blocking IP address apparently - correct me if I'm wrong. I assume that's why Renee is still around too (or are jeana and Renee the same person??)
@jeana
Excellent.
Thankyou for proving my point.
It seems as if the two girls had something against their victim and used another man to eliminate him. I seriously doubt if either of the two girls feel, or will ever feel, any guilt,remorse,sorrow,grief,shame or regret for what they caused. Idoubt if they will think of this man's potential for greatness or making the world a better place in any measure. I doubt if they will think of this man's loved ones and friends who have lost someone they care about. These two girls used a man's chivalrous nature to commit a crime.
are you guys getting the feeling that jeana and renee might get together and accuse one of us of electronic rape?
Jeana, I can't imagine you are stupid enough to think those girls didn't act in a criminal fasion- are you just a troll, or do you lack the ability to reason it out?
The words those girls uttered incited murder. Reminds me of how the most dangerous people kill- through words. Hitler, Stalin, created millions of innocent deaths just through "words." Inciting a riot, ordering a murder, coercion to perjure, are all crimes.
jeana said...
"No, I just like to stop you MRAs when you constantly moan about how men have no responsibilities to act like decent human beings and instead blame all their failings on women.
Touche! This is what feminists and radical feminsts have been doing for over 30 years. Blaming men for all of their problems and woes.
[The murderer in this story is a “victim” to you all, isn’t he? "
Not to me he isn't. He was another man who was used as a tool to fulfill the desires of the girls.
I know plenty of women who still think Mary Winkler is a victim,even though her daughter testified that Matthew Winkler had never even raised his voice to Mary.
Jeana
The two false accusers are at minimun guilty of slander which is defined as, A false defamation (expressed in spoken words, signs, or gestures) which injures the character or reputation of the person defamed (lectlaw.com). At worse they should be charged with accessory to murder and conspiracy to murder. These girls knew they type of reason the boy would have and commenced on telling the lie and allowing it to continue. They didn't contact the police when they found out what was going to happen. These girls are just as responsible for the boy's death as the one who swung the bat. These are the same charges that are brought against sociopaths that control others to commit crimes, and that is all these two girls are, sociopaths, a person who is unconcerned about the adverse consequences for others of one's actions.
To all the MRA's posting on this site, we must understand that these type of women can destroy our every existance. So, we must learn how to defend ourselves and teach others to do the same. I have already started this task with the soldiers under my command. In the military there is a staggeringly high number of false rape claims. So the directions I give to my soldiers are as follows.
1. Never allow yourself to be alone with a female. This ensures that you have less of a chance to be accused.
2. Always remember that even if both of you are intoxicated she will be seen as the victim and you as the rapist. So never try to pick up women at a bar/club.
3. In the eyes of the law you maybe innocent until proven guilty but in the eyes of the public/media you are guilty until proven innocent.
If you keep these three rules in mind then you will greatly reduce the chance of being falsely accused of sexual assault.
PS To Jeana the boyfriend who did the killing did take responsibility for his actions and this is proven in the fact that he pleaded guilty, apologized to the family, and is now serving a seven year sentence, rightly deserved. And I have a daughter and a son, and if someone where to kill my son over a false aligation I would want all parties involved to be brought to justice. And that does go for my daughter should she every be stupid enough to do something along this line.
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