While I may not subscribe to all of the statements in this video, I wholeheartedly endorse its message on the need for greater sentences for false rape accusations. (Thanks to verve10007)
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18 comments:
We need to teach the MEN that we know! Great stuff.
I agree. I loudly applaud whomever posted this.
one place he's wrong is the reasons for making false accusations, or...maybe they're not all the same now as McDowell reported back when.
I agree wholeheartedly that a false accusation of rape is a terrible crime and deserves to be severely punished.
My concern, however, is that it's often a difficult crime to prove unless the supposed victim recants.
How many false accusers would be likely to recant if they were facing 20 years in prison?
highlander - "How many false accusers would be likely to recant if they were facing 20 years in prison?"
As has been previously discussed here, a number of us would prefer to see a sort of "sliding-scale", in which the less harm is done by a false allegation, the less the punishment would be.
In many instances, the chance to get off lightly early-on would convince many false accusers (particularly those whose claims were not well though out and made in relative desperation) to "come-clean".
However, at the other end, if the accuser doesn't recant, but is found to be lying (via conclusive evidence) then she should face much harsher penalties - rivaling those her victim would have faced.
To prove that a false accuser is guilty you investigate her background. These people always have long histories of lies and other pathetic behavior.
Like slugs, they leave a trail of slime behind them.
Enabling false rape accusers, and manufacturing and spreading faulty and inflammatory misinformation about the true percentages of false rape accusations (it's not 2%)does not prejudice against all males..just the heterosexual ones.
Thanks slwerner. I am in complete agreement with the "sliding scale" concept. It makes sense to me.
Norm,
I'm the one who made the video- what are the top reasons you have read before? These are the top four that I've read about for years- I'm curious what other reasons there are. There are in fact a few other videos on You Tube about false rape accusations- but none of them really boldly go into the reasons women do it- I felt it was more important than anything else to start opening that discussion with as wide of a audience as possible - when most everyone is denying that make women make false accusations at all. It will help to begin normalizing the discussion.
And btw, the sliding scale does in fact sound like a good idea.
Oh, and one last thing- no one anywhere has mentioned anything about the song on the video.. does anyone want to take a stab at guessing who it is and the name of the song?
brad,
the following is from Warren Farrell's "The Myth of Male Power"
Why would a woman make a false accusation of rape? ...The [Dr. McDowell's] air force study has the only systematic reporting of motivations [as of 1993].
Motivations Given by the Women Who Acknowledged They Had Made False Accusations of Rape:
Spite or revenge - 20 percent
To compensate for feelings of guilt or shame - 20 percent
Thought she might be pregnant - 13 percent
To conceal an affair - 12 percent
To test husband's love - 9 percent
Mental/emotional disorder - 9 percent
To avoid personal responsibility - 4 percent
Failure to pay, or extortion -
4 percent
Thought she might have caught VD - 3 percent
Other - 6 percent
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TOTAL - 100 percent
The sample size was about 556 cases of alleged rape, where 27% of the women admitted they lied eiter just before they took a lie detector test, or when they failed it. The data is self-reported from the 27%.
Dr. McDowell found that most false accusations are 'instrumental' - they serve a purpose. If the purpose isn't avoiding guilt or getting revenge, it might be to allow her to tell her parents, "I did not purposely go out and get pregnant - I was raped"; or tell her husband, "I did not have an affair; it was not my fault - I was raped."
The book was published in 1993.
I'm not sure if Kanin studied motivation.
brad,
one problem with the sliding scale is that is seems to promote the idea of 'an eye for an eye'. One might respond that we already practice that anyway, for example the death penalty, but most people executed are men, so most people don't raise a stink about, "hey, this is just revenge!" Same for most other violent crimes - most of the (supposed) perpetrators are men.
Whereas, women are looked at in a different light - there is a big tendency to protect them, especially among the liberals and chauvinists in the legal system; so no doubt there would be a huge outcry about "injustice" if your proposal was even suggested. Someone would probably complain about 'unequal punishment' too.
Brad -- excellent job. I posted your video on our site because it is important, and well done. Please send me your email address -- I have some useful info to pass along for your next venture:
thefrs@ymail.com
Norm,
That's a great breakdown, but when making a video for You Tube you only have ten minutes- not to mention you'll lose your audience if you overload too many details along with too much text.
These are more less the same roughly as the four I mentioned and can all fall under the four main categories of guilt, revenge, attention and profit- except for mental illness of course which is not a 'motivation' - with all due respect to Warren Farrell.
Also, complete unaccountability was something that is implied by the main motivations- the very fact that women make false accusations at all- and should be universally recognized as the greatest female failing of all, but having said that I may be driving that point home a little further in my next video for the not so enlightened. I plan on making at least two more.
And eye for an eye isn't good enough. The legal system needs to come down hard on false accusers and inflict more punishment on them than they have inflicted on their victims.
For example, if he's sitting in jail for a year before he's cleared, she needs to do much more than a year -- just putting her away for the same amount of time isn't good enough. If he is in for a year but faces the psychological trauma of knowing he might never get out of prison then she is hardly being punished as harshly as him if she does one year but knows her release date.
brad,
sorry, but that's a non-response on your part. You're going to have to come up with something better and more accurate before this gets around. Let's look at your reasons for making an accusation. First you break them into four categories:
"Revenge, guilt, attention, and profit." Straight off that's confusing...the average viewer will wonder what is meant by 'guilt'...guilt of actual rape, guilt feelings, or what? Sure you and I know the answer, but the average viewer will be mystified.
then you state specific examples of possible motivations for 'revenge', but it appears to me these are self-selected or speculated on by yourself or general impressions you have gotten over time...i.e. you provide no actual breakdown. You can actually shorten the length of the video by just giving the McDowell breakdown at this point - "20 percent for revenge".
As far as to eliminate male competition in the workplace, you would really need to come up with some support for that. For one thing I've never heard of an example of that in the media...perhaps you can cite an example in the video. Otherwise I'd get rid of that part of it...our opponents can use that one item alone to discredit the rest of the video.
"guilt" section is pretty well-done. though it might be better to list the rape shield stuff independently since it applies across the board.
Your 'attention' segment is truly terrible. It appears you are making a ham-handed effort at being a psychologist, whereas myself just having taken three psych courses in college (and done a little independent reading) can spot immediately the bogus info and speculation given here. And to add to the problem, what you say at the bottom of the text in this segment comes off as being hostile. This is probably the weakest segment of the entire video,and if there is one part of it our opponents can use to discredit it, it is this one.
"profit" section is okay I suppose, though McDowell lists 4% for 'failure to pay, or extortion' which I'm not sure how that aligns with what you're raising here. It seems you are drawing mainly on the Roethlisberger case here...do you know of any others?
Overall, it appears to me that the McDowell info is much more scientific than what you've presented, and in fact would convey more information and at the same time occupy less space and time; as well as provide a much smaller target for our opponents.
Pierce and archivists,
it is tempting to jump at the first opportunity on something like this, but it might serve to have another cool-headed look at the video in light of the things I mention above. We want to be extremely careful not to start off on the wrong foot.
brad,
I know you're sincere and you put a lot of effort into this, but something more scientific is needed, like quoting the McDowell and Kanin studies.
That's an excellent idea. So get to work on it & make a video yourself. :)
Oh, but again just remember not to refer to mental illness as a 'motivation.' That's grammatically and technically incorrect.
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