Friday, June 5, 2009

Hypothetical rape victims more important than three innocent men arrested because of a false rape claim

Comment: Three innocent men were arrested on the basis of a woman's rape lie.

One lie, three men.

While the police officer interviewed for the story acknowledges that innocent men were arrested due to the fabrication, he goes out of his way to urge rape victims to come forward and to assert that "we deal with all allegations of rape very seriously."

And what about the men and boys falsely accused, sir? Do you deal with false allegations of rape seriously? Decide for yourself. He says: "In instances where the evidence proves malicious allegations are made then consideration will be given to prosecute."

Did you get that? Only if the evidence proves that the rape lie was "malicious" -- which means arising from a desire to cause pain, injury or distress to another -- in that case, "consideration will be given to prosecute."

What of the rapist who did not intend to cause pain, sir? What of the rapist who has sex with a very inebriated woman solely for a desire to climax? Would anyone suggest he should not be prosecuted because he did not act out of malice?

And even if he did act out of malice, would anyone suggest that "consideration" should be given to prosecute?

So this is what it comes to: in our zeal to be sensitive to possible rape victims, we think we must be insensitive to the falsely accused.

Contrast this police officer's concern for future, unknown, hypothetical, phantom, possible, could-be, even unborn rape victims who might be, possibly will be, may be dissuaded by such lies from coming forward -- with the three flesh and blood falsely accused men in this case.

Thank you very much, sir, for your politically correct, grudging, equivocal support of the falsely accused. It is men like you who perpetuate the false rape epidemic.

'Gang rape' woman admits she lied

"I would always urge all genuine victims to come forward and report any cases of sexual offences." Det Insp Marc Nasser

A woman has admitted falsely accusing three men of raping her after video footage on a mobile phone disproved her claims.

Victoria Salter pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice at Preston Crown Court on Wednesday.

The 26-year-old's false allegations of rape led to three men being arrested. But one of the men filmed the incident and provided mobile phone evidence.

Det Insp Marc Nasser said the allegations were "malicious".

She made false report in September, when she said she had been followed home by four men, three raped her while the fourth watched.

The court heard that Salter had been filmed by one of the men during the sexual encounter and she had been partaking "enthusiastically".

Det Insp Nasser added: "All sex-related offences are investigated thoroughly.

"In instances where the evidence proves malicious allegations are made then consideration will be given to prosecute.

"In this case there was clear evidence that Victoria Salter had agreed and willingly participated in sexual activity.

"Innocent men were arrested as a result of her allegations.

"I would like to assure people we deal with all allegations of rape very seriously.

"I would always urge all genuine victims to come forward and report any cases of sexual offences."

Salter is due to be sentenced on July 31.

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/lancashire/8082765.stm

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

"we deal with all allegations of rape very seriously." That's the problem. You enable false accusers by treating their claims as serious when they're actually frivolous. Can you imagine if the police took other non-reliable reports of crimes seriously? They'd waste 80% of their resources chasing false leads.

Anonymous said...

"While the police officer interviewed for the story acknowledges that innocent men were arrested due to the fabrication, he goes out of his way to urge rape victims to come forward and to assert that "we deal with all allegations of rape very seriously."

anon says..Rape crisis centers make their money by manifesting a crisis, and collecting state and federal dollars. By saying their are millions of women/ girls who are not reporting their rapes...because they are afraid no one will believe them...is another irrational, illogical lie...but it makes for more hysteria funding.
These "enterprising bureaucrats ", are making loads of dollars off what they do best..manufacturing a crisis.

Anonymous said...

As a woman & a former prosecutor, I would not have believed the rumored prevalency of false accusations had a lesser version not recently happened to my own adolescent son. The purported victim (a girl slightly older than my son) gave a report that was both uncorroborated and illogical -- the alleged unwanted contact occurred in a car where 4 other females (including 3 friends of the victim) were present, none of whom heard any protest from the "victim," and went unreported for over a month until the "victim's" boyfriend heard a rumor that she had been mesing around w/ my son, at which time she told other friends that she would accuse my son of rape. Nevertheless, the investigating officer advised us from the outset that he believed the accuser, would assume that my son was lying unless he admitted "it" (although we weren't told what "it" was), and would prosecute him as a juvenile sexual offender. This without speaking to a single witness. My entire perspective on crimes of a sexual nature has been turned on its ear. It has become far too easy for an unstable woman seeking attention or retribution to destroy a man's life.

Anonymous said...

Wake up men. Heterosexuality is dangerous.

"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire." From Robin Morgan, "Theory and Practice: Pornography and Rape" in "Going too Far," 1974.

I agree with this statement because it is totally her call not his. And most women do not want intercourse in the first place, but they do it for reasons other than desire. Heterosexual intercourse is truely dangerous, it could become rape at any time.

Anonymous said...

And if you let a man have heterosexual sex with a woman, even if the sex is consentual, she still might suffer the ultimate oppression -- and oppression routed in our very biology:

an orgasm!

Anonymous said...

"...she still might suffer the ultimate oppression -- and oppression routed in our very biology: an orgasm!"

Yeah, I know. Professor Sheila Jeffreys said that if a woman has an orgasm with a man she is merely giving into her victimization. We are slowly emerging into the new society where all heterosexuality is rape.

Pierce Harlan said...

"We are slowly emerging into the new society where all heterosexuality is rape."

You know, I think that's not entirely accurate, thankfully. I think we are slowly emgering into the new society where we are exposing these inane radical gender mantras for the utter and complete bullshit they are. These idiotic catchphrases flourished in the darkness of Womyn's Studies that only a select few devotees knew about. As they are exposed to the broad daylight of srutiny in the marketplace of ideas, it is apparent to every thinking person that they are nonsense. That might sound overly optimistic but I thoroughly believe it.

Norm said...

It's about time for the police to be held accountable on this. Lots of people think the police are acting solely 'by the rules', or act totally in response to pressure from outside sources. They speak as if police officers are automatons who are allowed no discretion, and sometimes they even try to pretend the police are not fascists.

Anonymous said...

It isn't even about them being corrupt or stupid or authoritarian. They are just trained to believe the rape "victim" and to only doubt her under extreme circumstances. They are doing things the way they have been taught, and even an honest cop can end up sending innocent men to prison.

Norm said...

really? why are they so darn aggressive in pursuing someone they know may be innocent? Do they really have to sweat the guy for 48 hours under the metaphorical bright light?

Why are they so aggressive about going after males in general? Why do they harrass homeless people and other guys who are simply minding their own business? It is obvious the police like to drum up business for themselves. In doing so, they even contribute to crime, in the long run.

My cousin works with the police and in the prison system, and we chat frequently, so I know wherefrom I speak.

Anonymous said...

My point is that the rules themselves are set up in such a way as to cause innocent men to be raped. The cops can follow all of the rules and the results can still be overwhelmingly negative. The system itself is evil, not just some of the people in it.