Sunday, May 24, 2009

When it comes to sex crimes, we are stranded in an era of gender self-pity and one-way outrage -- and no sympathy for innocent male victims

The feminist sirens remained quiet. For the victim is a man

By KEVIN MYERS

Tuesday May 05 2009

There seems to be no empathy, no regard, no compassion for male victims.

And the case of Michael Hannon is particularly shocking

I looked, and of course, I looked in vain, for some sign of compassion for Michael Feichin Hannon, from our state-supported feminist quangos. I shouldn't have been surprised about their silence over the grave injustice done to him: yet some small stupid part of me had retained the naïve hope that there might be some sign of ordinary human decency from our professional gender-industry.

Gender self-pity is now so deeply ingrained in the political psyche of the institutions of this State that it is apparently quite invisible to those who run them. We have lived in a political regime with a one-way rage for two decades now; and like the vegetation on a wind-blasted island, the landscape of our public morality has been utterly distorted by it. We have created a state-subsidised chorus of feminist sirens which only howls when it sees the cases that confirm that women alone are the victims of endless oppression. Naturally, the sirens -- and their colleagues in the media -- resolutely ignore those cases which provide contradictory evidence.

Now, a few weeks ago I was confident that the various state-subsidised feminist quangos -- from the Rape Crisis Centres, to the National Council of Women, to the Equality Authority -- would say nothing about the preposterously light sentence of seven years for the serial rape of a 14-year-old boy by his mother, and I was right. The fact that the judge was a woman was no doubt a factor in their silence. Her explanation for the light sentence -- that the Edwardian law was more heavily biased against paternal incest was both tendentious and spurious: for the charge of sexual assault alone carries a maximum of 14 years' imprisonment.

It's possible that I missed some condemnation of the sentence by the vast army of feminist-commentators and feminist quangos: but if I did, it wasn't for want of trying. But imagine the outcry -- and very properly -- if a man who had raped and sexually abused his 14-year-old daughter was sentenced to just seven years' imprisonment by a male judge.

What troubles me most about these feminist institutions, and the feminists who run them -- not all of them women by any means -- is the double standards which are now a norm. There seems to be no empathy, no regard, no compassion for male victims. So the case of Michael Hannon is particularly shocking, not merely because it could so easily happen again, but because of the lack of outcry resulting from it. Twelve years ago this innocent young man was framed by a malicious 10-year-old girl, Una Hardester, and duly found guilty of assault and sexual assault. His life could have been ruined. That it wasn't was because his family believed in his innocence.

That same year, three young Irish soldiers on holiday in Cyprus were similarly accused by an Irish girl. Only 15 hours later, after the men had been arrested on charges of rape, and under questioning from a detective who doubted her allegations, did the accuser break down and admit that her claims were baseless. She was sentenced to four months imprisonment.

Cue, outcry from Irish feminists, not over the attempt by a young Irishwoman to use the proper loathing for the crime of rape to ruin the lives of three innocent men, but because she was imprisoned at all. Condemning the jail sentence, Olive Braiden of the Rape Crisis Centre, said it would deter rape victims from reporting cases, and anyway, there was more to this case "than met the eye": whatever that cheap slur might mean. Anne O'Donnell, formerly of the Rape Crisis Centre, similarly dismissed the seriousness of the false allegations of rape, and, briefly appointing herself as both judge and jury in some hypothetical Cypriot court, declared that the woman's word alone would never have been enough to have secured a rape conviction. Ah. So that's all right then.

Fast forward to the Hannon case. Racked with guilt, Una Hardester returned from the US nearly three years ago to admit to her false allegations. Her sworn statement was known to An Garda Siochana and the office of the Director Public Prosecutions. But, quite scandalously, it was never passed to Michael Hannon's solicitor. Michael only discovered its existence purely by chance, after his sister encountered Hardester at a petrol station. Thus, no petrol, no justice. And it gets worse. For this state then flatly refused to declare that a miscarriage had been done. Michael Hannon, having once been the victim of the law, was then obliged to return to the courts to fight for a certificate of miscarriage of justice, which the Court of Appeal issued last week.

Now, we can be quite certain if a woman had been so gravely wronged by the State in some matter relating to sexual crime, that the feminist sirens, media and quangos alike, would have been howling in anger, and demanding enquiries and heads. But in the aftermath of this case, nothing: the sirens remained as quiet as a mountain lake. For the victim is a man, so really, the injustice done to him really doesn't count. Not in 1997, not today, and no doubt, not in 2019 either.

kmyers@independent.ie
- KEVIN MYERS

Link: http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/the-feminist-sirens-remained-quiet-for-the-victim-is-a-man-1728418.html

35 comments:

Sgt. Mom said...

It would be incredible if someone like the Duke LaCrosse team guys used the momentum of the injustices done them to help change some of these laws.

(I'm loathe singling them out, and I fully understand they might want to distance themselves as much as possible from it -I'm just using them as a stellar example)

Maureen Kanka, Patty Wetterling, and Candy Leightner(MADD) mothers have used their children's horrific deaths as momentum to force thousands upon thousands of men, women and children-rightly or wrongly-to publicly register as sex offenders or drunk drivers.

Vigilantism and murders have plagued the reckless and ineffective sex offender registry, yet it remains a favorite weapon of mass destruction in this country.

John Walsh, Marc Klass, Mark Lunsford and Ed Smart are celebrity-victim dads making millions of dollars promoting their victim-agendas with media whoredom and over-hyped 'foundations'.

The Duke LaCrosse team may well be the only guys with recognized grievances and empathy as far as being falsely accused goes.

If they were to go before congress proposing a bill or some legal modification that helped deter false accusations, they WOULD be listened to.

It's something THEY have to find in their heart to do - going public really brings out the crazies and you must have iron will to withstand such an onslaught. Take a hard look at Cindy Sheehan's diasterous attempt to protest her son's death in Iraq.

There is a mother who's son is on a sex offender registry because an underaged girl lied about her age making some momentum.

www.rickyslife.com/

We might consider giving her moral support. She dosen't have an iron clad cause like the Duke guys, but she has an iron will, which is what moves mountains in the long run.

Anonymous said...

It's nothing less than a war on men. It isn't even about stopping rape.

Archivist said...

The feminist sexual assault counseling industry is vile in it's disregard of innocent men. Vile. I would love the opportunity to debate one of these vile people.

I would note in passing that after having studied the sentencing disparity between statutory rape committed by adults of both genders against children of the other gender, women will never receive the sentences men receive. Here is why -- and it's going to sound crass: most people believe that men enjoy intercourse far more than women, so when women commit statutory rape, it's either because of some mixed-up emotional problem or because the boy acted with "typical" male predatory seduction and prompted the affair. As simplistic as that sounds, that's the perception. It's as wrong as it could be for this reason: recent studies tell us the long-term harm to boys in a sexual "relationship" with an adult is as great as the harm to girls. THAT is the only test that really matters -- sentencing needs to be the same regardless of the sex of the offender.

Anonymous said...

It has occured to me that about the only time a male can expect his name and face to be seen on news reports and in the papers is when he is accused of rape,sexual assault or, any other violent crime against a female and/or a child. When it is discovered the male is not guilty/ the " victim " lied, he will be lucky to even have a member of the public approach him to ask him how he feels about being falsely accused. Does anyone ever wonder how those who were falsely accused of being witches ,during the salem witch hunt/trials felt after it was proven they were not witches?

Anonymous said...

This has become an accepted part of everyday life for American men. We are all regarded with suspicion, even when we have clean records and have never done anything illegal. The feminists have taken something that rarely happens -- rape -- and used it to redefine all men as villains and all women as victims.

Sgt. Mom said...

OK, "Anon"--I'm officially renaming you AWAL - (A-ll W-omen A-lways L-ie) -

It's Memorial day. I've had 2 Margaritas and started a third. WTF.

Not much of a drinker. Doubtless I'll regret writing this in the morning.

But here goes.

I think you represent the male equivalent of the worst of the worst of any feminazi.

Your proclaiming "rape is rare" is equal to the claim that "all men are rapists" - it's the mirror image of the same Big! Fat! Lie!

I used to wish there were three genders to choose from, instead of just two --men, women, and something we BOTH could get along with. A "tie breaker", so to speak.

What was God thinking?!?

For every good man there in this life --and there are MANY--there are equal numbers of good women.

And so it goes for the 'bad' element, too.

Bitter with the sweet...

Lid for every pot...

Yadda yada yadda...

My son has been falsely accused and punished beyond human endurance.

NEVER would he make a statement like YOU just did.

I haven't hear YOU speak of forced registration as a sex offender.
I don't hear YOU speak of having been put through the court ordered skull-f()ck known as sexual abuse therapy - at the tender age of 16, no less!!!

Q: "Betsy. How could I rape a girl over 14 times and she is still a virgin?"

A:" "You must have a small dick".

OK?

That's the kind of SH!!!T my kid was put through.

He would N E V E R make the idiotic statement YOU just did.

N E V E R!

He has FAR more right to hate women than Y O U do.

As horribly as he was s!!!t on, as horrifically as he was punished --he would N E V E R make a statement like you just did.

I know what a good man is.

I'm married to one.

I'm the daughter of one. Sister and Granddaughter of one.

I've brought two wonderful men into this world.

I love and cherish my son-in-law and brother-in-law beyond the pale.

To the last man standing.

Not a bad guy in the bunch.

Thanks, AWAL.

You just made me realize just how much I have to be thankful for this Memorial Day.

Anonymous said...

Sgt. Mom, no way in the world is the venality of your response merited by the statement 'rape is rare'.

It is classic shaming language, and we men are sick of it. You don't excuse yourself either by intimating you have had a drink or two.

In every effort that men are making to right the balances so that they have a semblance of justice restored, there are women over-reacting and causing discord. Glenn Sacks has four of them.

We are not in the business of watching our mouths so's not to offend the ladies any longer - it has brought near ruin to us. Nor should any man here feel he can be shamed by overly aggressive women, with no man ready to say 'enough of this!'.

While you have made some good suggestions, your loyalty to the existing order (with the exception of the injustice to your son) is too much in conflict with the furtherance of men's access to justice in general.

And no, I will not be waylaid into a wider discussion of rape.

Anonymous said...

LOL! What a hilarious overreaction. But rape truly is rare, contrary to the feminist contention of 1 in 4 women being raped.

And I don't accept Sgt. Mom's claims to dual victimhood. A lot of what she says just doesn't compute.

Sgt. Mom said...

Quote: "I would love the opportunity to debate one of these vile people."

Well, brother...
...let me tell ya...

I'VE 'debated' them.

Oh dear God... how I've 'debated' them.

Daddy-Hating-Brother-Envy-ing-Divorcees...every last F-ing one of them!...WHERE!-ARE!-YOU! GOD?!?!?!-Evil Bitches.

Let me clue you into something here...

....when YOU Zig", THEY "Zig". When YOU "Zag", THEY "Zag".

You're a 'free man', Archivist...

"Debate" your brains out.

Makes no difference. Go outside your door and 'debate' all you want...

...see where it gets you....

Cry to heaven...not even an echo in return....

King James Bible:
"For man also knoweth not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net, and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men snared in an evil time, when it falleth suddenly upon them."


When my son was faced with the choice of accepting a guilty plea-- a railroading Alford plea(Look it up! Read about it!), for something he hadn't done....or stubbornly proclaiming his innocence and spending 6 years of what? Prison rape? Bubba's bitch? ...The final years of his youth incarcerated?...

No 'first date'...no 'first kiss'...no prom, no first driver's license, no "walking down the aisle, no pomp and circumstance'... no "switch the tassle from this side to that"?...

No first job...first love...first marriage...first child....

No chance in this life before it's ever even started....!

"WHAT HATH GOD WROUGHT...?!?!?!?!"...

(May 24, 1844, Samuel F. B. Morse dispatched the first telegraphic message over an experimental line from Washington, D.C., to Baltimore. The message, taken from the Bible, Numbers 23:23 and recorded on a paper tape, had been suggested to Morse by Annie Ellsworth, the young daughter of a friend.)
__________________________

God help the innocent.

God help us all...................

Anonymous said...

???

Anonymous said...

In Munchausen By Proxy Syndrome, an individual — usually a mother — deliberately makes another person (most often his or her own preschool child) sick or convinces others that the person is sick. The parent or caregiver misleads others into thinking that the child has medical problems by lying and reporting fictitious episodes. He or she may exaggerate, fabricate, or induce symptoms. As a result, doctors usually order tests, try different types of medications, and may even hospitalize the child or perform surgery to determine the cause.

Typically, the perpetrator feels satisfied by gaining the attention and sympathy of doctors, nurses, and others who come into contact with him or her and the child. Some experts believe that it isn't just the attention that's gained from the "illness" of the child that drives this behavior, but also the satisfaction in being able to deceive individuals that they consider to be more important and powerful than themselves.

Archivist said...

Sgt. Mom, your point is well made. We do not do this blog, nor would we debate the vile forces of evil, in order to convince THEM.

Sgt. Mom said...

"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

I have TWO damaged kids to deal with, AWAL--Frankly, I don't give a $hit WHAT 'computes' with you.

Faced with my own personal "Sophie's Choice" situation,I've focused on my son's false accusation situation over my daughter's he-got-away-with-rape situation.

I've alienated an angry daughter contending I'm too 'obsessed' with her brother's false accusation.

"Just let it go!"

But I can't "just let it go".

I have a falsely accused son so horrified at the thought of being the source of family strife he's willing to accept inhuman punishment to maintain family unity.

He's begged me to "just let it go".

But, again, I can't "just let it go".

I have a husband emotionally blackmailed into choosing between his parents/sister(the false accusers), or his wife/son(the falsely accused.)

He chose his parents/sister, knowing his wife and son would love him anyway.

Mentally unstable people often incorporate those around them into mental instability as well.

I am certain Munchausens By Proxy/ Factitious Disorder was the underlying cause of my son's false accusation.

In the Medical arena, hospitals now recognize this bizarre phenomenon. Major hospitals routinely have cameras installed in Child Wards to screen parental behavior.

It's open season, however, for parents to make false sexual claims about their children. They get the attention, the services, the hysteria and unquestioned victim adulation --FREE OF CHARGE--

No one watches. No records are kept. It's perfect.

As I said before, my sister in law was an emergency room junkie until she discovered the wonderful world of child abuse accusations.

False accusers enjoy all the bells and whistles of medical emergencies without the restrictive downside of expensive emergency room billing and medical record keeping.

What a racket.

Anonymous said...

What is "AWAL?"

Anonymous said...

Good points SgtMom. Speaking as a victim of false accusations, I cannot express to you how what most of your words mean to me. There are parents who will do anything to protect their children, what parent wouldn't? Those who falsley accused me of exposing myself to their children know good and well it didn't happen, otherwise they would have gotten a warrant to have the alleged incident investigated. Instead ,they allowed one of their ilk to call the police and claim I waved a gun at them. I don't know why these people did this but, I feel that I was chosen because I kept to myself and hardly socialized with the neighbors. I also think they did it to ditract people in the neighborhood from seeing what was going on in their home. I remember seeing the front page of a copy of hustler magazine laying in the front yard of their house. This means any child in the home might have been exposed to pronograghy. I remember smelling the smoke from pot and crack coming from the home. If anyone were going to report such to the police, they could be villainized for reporting this to the police or cps. I have also learned, and witnessed there was (and may still be ) at least one protitute living in the home. How would it look if the police or cps were to invade the home of people who's child was/is the " vicitm " of indecent exposure and who were the " victims " of an " aggravated assault "? I believe I was used, and am still being used as a scapegoat to distract people in the neighborhood from seeing both problems and criminal activities in these people's home. I admire your fighting for your son. I almost became a radical woman hating MRA because of what happened to me and what I am being forced to suffer as a result. I work for two people who have known me for over twenty years. One of them, named Darlene, trusted me enough to watch her two boys (one of them in diapers, the other around nine years old), during the beginning of this child molester/child rapist witch hunt) and her daughter, who was around fourteen years old. You must admit this was,and is, a HUGE amount of trust to have in a grown adult male. I had an opportunity that I think any man with a " child fetish " would have enjoyed and taken advantage of. The thought of doing anything perverted or immoral around,to,in front of these children never even crossed my mind. I babysat them on several occasions. She will even trust me to babysit her grandchildren. I babysat them not only as a favor but, to get on the job type training in case I ever got blessed to be a dad. Needless to say I am forty four years old and I have no children. This, and what happened to me, are the reasons why I fear being around children. I cannot express how deathly I hurt when I imagine how great and wonderful it would be to have children and grandchildren. I have went through too much hell in my life because of sadistic people and people who want to play victim, regardless of what they cost an innocent person.

Anonymous said...

I lost a promising career in the U.S. Army, something I wanted to do since my childhood. I finally had that chance back in 2006 but, it was all taken away from me by two little boys, who lied about being indecent exposure victims and, a woman who lied about me waving a gun at her. I could have joined the U.S. Army before when I was under the legal age limit to join but, I had to fight to get over the hellish childhood I had and I had a loved one who would have suffered greatly in my absence. When these people did what they did, I was already sorely tired of being a victim and sorely tired of being victimized yet, they, for whatever excuse, caused more of these to be unfairly and undeservingly heaped on me. Imagine being a crimainlized victim. I can understand why your sone want you to get over it but, I admire your willingness and drive to fight for him. I'm sorry if I have mispelled any words but, it is very difficult to type when rivers of fire are pouring from my eyes. For what it is worth, I know what your son is going through and how angry you feel about him being robbed of great potential. I, to this day ,wonder what great and wonderful things I could be accomplishing in the U.S. Army.

Anonymous said...

Do you and/or your son ever wonder how things could/would be like, if it had not been for one or more people to make such horrible false accusations?

Anonymous said...

But strangely, SgtMom uses the same tactic that her dreaded rape counselors use: accusing MRAs of being misogynists when they apply rigorous skepticism to unfounded rape accusations! That's what her "AWAL" means; that if you dispute her "he paintballed my house so he must be a rapist" claim then you're attacking all women everywhere. It's bullshit.

False accusations are all about lies and manipulation and bogus emotionalism. Be careful who you trust, troops.

Sgt. Mom said...

"Do you and/or your son ever wonder how things could/would be like, if it had not been for one or more people to make such horrible false accusations?"


As angry as I am at what happened to my son, I have to admit our life is probably better off because of it.

It sickens me to have to say that --the person who tried to destroy my family actually brought us closer together.

My son has speculated that he probably would have gotten into drugs and partying as most of his ended up doing.

As it went, he had to fight for his good name. He had to fight for a good job. He had to fight for happiness and peace of mind at an age when most of his friends were spoiled brats, rebelling against their parents and getting into trouble. He had to fight for his good name and self respect.

Back in our 'before' days my kids couldn't stand each other, or me. My husband and I had a lukewarm relationship -OK but nothing special. We had a large impressive home that wasn't large or impressive enough for me. I hated my job. Complained about my life.

Typical stuff.

There's nothing like having everything ripped from you to make you appreciate what you had.

We sold the house and moved to a small unimpressive one to pay off the legal bills. I don't miss keeping up with the Joneses anymore.

As a family we circled the wagons - one for all and all for one. No more sniping, no more 'just putting up with each other' stuff. All my kids live away from home now, but they're home more now than when they live here. We have a great time together.

My accused son was one of those annoying ADD kids everyone was intolerant of. I really thought my kids would hate each other forever, but now just the opposite happened.

Even though his siblings were negatively impacted by it --his younger brother was harassed had to transfer schools, he ended up in a much better education.

His older sister's fiance broke it off fearing he'd lose custody if his ex used her brother's situation against him. She lost Mr. Ho-hum to gain Mr. Wonderful.

His teachers rallied around to get him graduated - the just wouldn't let him give up on himself. One teacher flew out to speak on his behalf at his sentencing.

Our church really came through in a big way. I'm not a 'churchy' type, I dragged my reluctant kids in hoping a little would rub off, but wasn't any 'true believer'. Over 30 people wrote the Judge on his behalf, and the Minister also flew out to speak at his hearing--he didn't even particularly like my disruptive son, but felt this was such an injustice.

I used to be a rather shy quizzling who let people run over me. I quit caring about what other people thought of me, learned to speak up(my husband says I cuss to much now, but...)and found a job I respect myself for.

For all the bad things that happened, some very wonderful things came out of it.

You can't live your life in 'what ifs'. You only get one shot at it, and you gotta make good on what you're given.

Conrad Hilton's "How To Stop Worrying And Start Living" Viktor Frankl's "Man's Search For Meaning", and The Bible (as a book of human wisdom, not a 'religious' reference) were my survival manuals.

I read those books and diligently put them to use.

It saved my life.

Sgt. Mom said...

Archivist said...

Sgt. Mom, your point is well made. We do not do this blog, nor would we debate the vile forces of evil, in order to convince THEM.



I don't want to convince them...

I want to STOP them.

I want to EXPOSE them.

Anonymous said...

"As angry as I am at what happened to my son, I have to admit our life is probably better off because of it."

I don't need to read any further into your garbage. This is straight out of the feminist page-book - "men who are falsely accused will probably benefit from the experience".

From now on, when I see your moniker on any post at this site, I shall be skipping it unread.

Anonymous said...

I don't think there is anything positive that anyone can learn from being falsely accused of rape or any other violent crime(s) , just as I don't think there is anything positive that can be learned from being raped. Both are equally heinous crimes. Being falsely accused of rape Most of the rape victims I have met have become misandric and untrusting of men, even future/current husbands/boyfriends, because of their experience. Being falsely accused of rape or any other violent crime(s) has made most of the falsely accused men I have met, misogynists who no longer trust or want to be near women, because of the experience. Idon't see anything positive about either. Once a person has had their life turned upside down by such an experience, it is , in my honest opinion and experience, very rare that they will return to being the same person they were before the life altering experience took place.

Anonymous said...

The false accusations that were made against me and the hell and the perpetual state of trauma I am going through because of them and everything they have cost me, It is extremely difficult for me to remind myself that not all women are false accusers but, being anywhere near a woman takes me back to the night I was falsely accused and I have to fight becoming filled with anxiety,fear,worry and , panic. I remember when I never felt these things when I was around women but, being falsely accused has changed me perhaps for the rest of my now destroyed life. I don't know of any victim's advocates for the falsely accused except for those on this site.

Anonymous said...

SgtMom is a mole. There's no way the mother of a false accusation victim would say something that vile and ridiculous.

Last anonymous: please don't be afraid just to be around women. The chances of another one just making up another story about you out of the blue are slim. The problem isn't that most women would cry rape for no reason, but that so many women and men support the minority of women that do.

It's like the Muslims and Al Qaeda. The vast majority of muslims would never commit acts of terror, but there are too many Muslims who condone terrorism.

Anonymous said...

By the way, how old would SgtMom have to be to have served in Vietnam? That would probably make her about 60 or so -- and yet she has two teenaged children. (And only about 7500 women served in Nam, so how likely is that?)

Norm said...

"Last anonymous: please don't be afraid just to be around women. The chances of another one just making up another story about you out of the blue are slim. The problem isn't that most women would cry rape for no reason, but that so many women and men support the minority of women that do."

I totally agree. Rape IS rare, and I don't think a man is the equivalent of a Feminazi for stating the truth, and for being sane. MRA's don't scalp people who disagree with them (as a group of feminazis did a few years ago - it was on TV, and they showed the piece of scalp).

Norm said...

"Sacks has 4 [trolls/losers]

Georgia girl
Jeana

who are the other two? JeanB seems okay.

the guys on that board spend WAY too much time arguing with jeana and gg. As long as those two can get a reaction out of us on there, they will continue to spew their hatred.

Pierce Harlan said...

Norm, I agree with you re: Glenn's site. It seems that those two women command inpordinate attention from the readers. They should go off and find a good feminist site because no amount of reason ever changes their views.

Anonymous said this: "From now on, when I see your moniker on any post at this site, I shall be skipping it unread."

OK, I re-read Sgt. Mom's comment, and I thought it was entirely helpful. Let's explain what she DIDN'T say. She DIDN'T say anything like this famous Time Magazine quote: "[Vice President of Vassar Catherine] Comins argues that men who are unjustly accused can sometimes gain from the experience. 'They have a lot of pain, but it is not a pain that I would necessarily have spared them. I think it ideally initiates a process of self-exploration. 'How do I see women?" "If I didn't violate her, could I have?" "Do I have the potential to do to her what they say I did?" Those are good questions.'"

See, Comins' comment was gynocentric and focused on men learning to behave better around women. OK? Sgt. Mom DIDN'T say that a false rape claim was good for her son because it made him a better feminst. Sgt. Mom likened the effect of the false rape claim on her family to the devastation a family suffers by a tornado or other calamity -- people come together in disaster unlike any other time. Religious people often attest that they feel closest to God when they are most broken. There is an entire tradition of suffering making people stronger, better. But it's not just false rape claims -- it's any type of suffering.

With that said, there are a hell of a lot of guys who have been destroyed by false claims.

I doubt that Sgt. Mom would recommend having a male loved one falsely accused of rape. If she did, I'd come down on her like a ton of bricks because that is insane and the height of misandry.

Anonymous said...

Imagine a father opening his posting on a rape victim's web site

"As angry as I am at the rape of my daughter, I have to admit our life is probably better off because of it."

Norm: "Sacks has 4 [trolls/losers]

Georgia girl
Jeana

who are the other two? JeanB seems okay.
The other two I was thinking of were LorMarie and Rosemary.

Pierce Harlan said...

"Imagine a father opening his posting on a rape victim's web site 'As angry as I am at the rape of my daughter, I have to admit our life is probably better off because of it.'"

You know, I think you're right. The young man's life obviously isn't better because of it. Hmm. In contrast, when we speak of a rape victim, we would never dream of putting the focus on her family -- or anyone other than the victim. I think I am agreeing with you Anonymous. We need to focus on the victims -- even if it happens to be a young male. And I say that as someone who was falsely accused, thank you very much.

Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure that nobody's life is ever better off because of a rape, either. That's a unique way of looking at it, to say the least.

Anonymous said...

About the Sacks blog, I'll never understand why he bans loyal MRAs from commenting but lets those idiot feminist trolls to continue to make a nuisance of themselves. He's a good guy for getting the word out about men's issues but he has this hangup about needing to reach out to feminists, who will never care.

Norm said...

Last anon,

Glenn posted something a few months ago (actually a comment in a thread) about how he's only banned two people in the history of the blog. I suppose there could be others since then, but the blog has been around for a while...and only two...

Anonymous said...

" About the Sacks blog, I'll never understand why he bans loyal MRAs from commenting but lets those idiot feminist trolls to continue to make a nuisance of themselves. He's a good guy for getting the word out about men's issues but he has this hangup about needing to reach out to feminists, who will never care. "

He could be allowing them to show everyone what they ,as feminists ,are really about. Kind of giving them enough rope to hang themselves.

slwerner said...

Norm - "Glenn posted something a few months ago (actually a comment in a thread) about how he's only banned two people in the history of the blog."
Short of banishment, Glenn's blog seem to have other "filters" in place. I've had numerous comments rejected - in one instance Glenn Emailed me privately to chastise me for calling Jeana a "troll".

Many other times, I get the "Your comment is awaiting moderation" feedback. I review them, and cannot determine what might have trigger that response. I even avoid spelling out certain words in an effort to try to avoid going into the moderation queue - to no avail.